Oh TJ your sooooo badHad to get that in before, well you know.

AEROSLINGER METHINKS YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!

Ive kinda read thru this and have come to the conclution that if you have money buy carbon clothing(its a waste of money. MHO).I use scent-lok soap,hair and underarm deoaterant and wash my clothes in in it thats it.
The best bet is dont eat Pizza,beans or drink alcohol the day before you go bow hunting.That little gas will ruin a hunt,and the breath will just be a WARRNING for the deer.I remember when I went bowhunting wearing sneekers,jeans and my everyday jacket(when cold)But I too got sucked into the camo and scent thing back in the late 80's early 90's.....

When I hear carbon two things come to mind.
1.arrows
2.Drunks in the ER getting the carbon treatment because they dont know when to stop drinking......not a pretty sight....

I have to agree with someone who stated that science has not been proven on any of this stuff.( whether it works or not.) Who is an authority on this stuff? I will personally buy a suit and send it to them for an unbiased study if just one person can give me an authoritive person/group of people to prove or disprove.

LT

I thought you weren't arguing. Sounds like it to me.[8D]


"Or a maybe Carbon True Believers forum where blind faith automatically overrules any scientific fact. [8D]"

And from a scientific perspective.I'm saying you guy's are being short changed not putting your vast knowledge of the subject to good use. I heard they are trying to make some kind of carbon thread that will be used to lift an elevator to the space station.

No thanks. I'm nolabrat either. It does work for me!

I thought this guy wanted to know the manufactures recommendations on how to reactivate the stuff. Or, was that just code for tell me about your personal insecurities, I'm listening.

Don't take me too serious here. I'm just having some fun with friends. In reality I have from the beginning advocated leaving the stuff sit on the shelves. That's how I buy it, down at a reasonable price for camo. Then again most camo costs as much or more than carbon clothes now. Leave them all sit.

aeroslinger, it's rather disturbing to me that you compare belief in carbon clothes to faith in the Almighty. Makes it sound like Scent Lok is the Antchrist.[:-] Besides, whoever thinks science and the Bible are at odds doesn't know their Bible very well. But that's a whole nuther argument, better suited for the bare knuckles forum.

You really have no cause to go putting words in my mouth either. NO, I didn't call anyone STUPID. I said two things: One, that anecdotale evidence, in and of itself, is worthless. Two, that there are many other reasonable explanations for why they might see more deer on a given outing than simply the clothing.

And NO, it is not bashing to point out certain contrary facts and inconsistencies in someone's pet theory, even if those facts totally destroy said theory. Truth is often painful. I am certain that activated carbon will reduce human scent to some degree for a very limited number of outings. I am equally certain that no home dryer can reactivate the carbon.

Someone above mentioned that the info on trmichels.com site might be biased. Granted, Michels stuff might possibly BE biased. However, that's why a good researcher won't stop at just one resource. He consults many, looking for consistent information. After reading actual specifcations and information sheets in several places on the web, most especially the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers spec sheet on activated carbon, my opinion is the questions raised on the Michels site are valid, consistent with industry procedures and not out of line at all.

You can find the same info in a variety of different sites. I chose to link to the Army's info because it's very detailed and, as a retired aerospace machinist, QA inspector and production planner, I am quite at home reading military specifications.

Oh, but wait? Is the Corps of Engineers biased also? Are they bashing Scent Lok because their specifications don't jive with Scent Lok's advertising and instructions? The entire activated carbon industry would have to be biased if you go so far as to say that because all the information from the carbon industry is consistent.

The information is right there, free, just a few clicks of the mouse away. I'm not expecting anyone to believe me. I don't even expect anyone to like what I have to say. But they better not jump my case until they've done their homework.

I do like you and what you have to say!I also know that although you look like a Neanderthal (I was so close to spelling that one right)the similarities end there. As for myself I'll stick with my homework plan, something dead at my feet.

Isee you hide your name at the top of the page. Youhave taken me by surprise when I see you post and wonder where in the heck did you come from. I got you figured now.

Good plan. Just don't go short changing yourself thinking it's the suit that did it for you.

I do kinda like to strike from the shadows. I AM a bowhunter, ya know. [8D]

Arthur, where exactly now did ANYONE "compare belief in carbon clothes to faith in the Almighty"? You are the one who sarcastically put blind faith below scientific fact. I merely pointed out 1 example where scientific data means very little to some one. Another fine example of scent clothing haters twisting words, insulting people, etc. Crying shame. Can't you just say "I don't think it works and a waste of money"? No. Too hard. Just gotta throw in those jabs to, what - make yourself feel superior? As I've read many of your post here, it seems so below you. I kind of took you for a high roader. Actually, the same old crowd that bashes it are the ones who refuse to open their eyes. Just about EVERY scent user that has posted here has acknowledged scent clothing isn't a miracle cloth and wont fool a deers nose, but will AID in cutting down scent. You and others don't seem to want to acknowledge that but keep refering to techinal data that neither is relevant to the specific clothing nor its use and certainly DOES NOT provide data that says the clothing is not working to some degree.