did you post it in the technical forum

The limb bend on each end on opposite sides of the pivot. As far as the harsh draw someone is talking about... no way unless the bow is so out of tune it's piece of junk feel. No way is there any harsh wall or hump or whatever you're calling it. I think this was a bogus set up or a bogus reply to discredit the machine. If you find anything harsh about a Guardian you really need help. Trolls are everywhere.

P.S. I don't work or have any connection with Bowtech. I don't sell equipment. I have no interest one way or another except the truth. He!!, I don't even own one or have one on order yet. I'm about as NON-Bowtech as you can be except I love the bow above anything else I've ever handled.

Including the almighty Dartons........NUFF SAID!!!!

Yup, including the almighty Darton. Our season ended the 31st. I dropped my Darton off at Len's today for new strings, cables, axle lubes and check, limb pockets..a total overhaul. I may order a Bowtech tomorrow but you have to have at least one great back up.[8D][8D][8D] My Darton is fantastic, but I want a Guardian. Just have to get through this new house building and all that. Well I don't, but that's my excuse for not buying today what I'll probably buy next month.[8D]

David,I wanted to like the bow VERY much because there is much about the design I love BUT I found the draw to be very harsh.Granted,it was straight off the shelf and was a 29" draw and I am a 28 1/2" draw but I was pulling a60# model back with the limb bolts backed out slightly,estimated 58# and I found it very harsh.I shoot 58# so I was expecting something I would like but I hated it.The extra draw length may have something to do with it( I really suspect it does)and it may have actually been more thanI thought but it was a 60# model so it couldn't have been too much more.I hated the rounded grip so when I saw and felt that,it was instantly off my list as a shooter FOR ME so i didn't get into great detail with the setup.I much prefer a flat grip on the back,much more conducive to consistant shooting at distance.


I can see where some might love itbut it isn't for everyone.(especially for those of us that have artur in the shoulders)I have yet to draw a Bowtech that I like.That isn't bashing but just an honest opinion from someone that likes a different feel.

IF the grip had been more suited to me,I'm sure I could have gotten the bow setup to my liking(probably 56#'s at 28 1/2" draw)butI saw no point in it.Especially since I am not in the market right now.Just wanted to give the shop that I shoot for an honest opinion.So far the Vectrix or Vectrix Xlis at the top of what I have looked at this year for hunting.

Dave,

There are a handful of threads in the tech forum that mention the guardian having a harsh draw. There are 3 guys in this thread that all agree with that (I'm one of them).........and we all shot (or at least drew) the bow (I shot it before christmas). There is plenty of mention of it at AT as well just do a search.

I don't think it is a coincidence or a conspiracy. It's hard to say two people will "feel" the same thing but way too many people have mentioned it to brush it off as bogus.

Yes..........awhile ago.

atlas,for the record.I never shot the bow.I pulled it back and tested the grip,that I already new wasn't for me and decided the draw was way more harsh than I like.

Didn't see the need to start setting it up at that point.I am sure it is dead in the hand and quiet.Too many have stated that as fact for me to dispute but I don't really care about those features nearly as much as I do hold and draw.

Noted........and edited. Doesn't change anything because we are discussing the draw and not the shot. I havn't seen very many say it didn't shoot like a champ.

TFOX... fair is fair, you don't like it, that's fine. One thing I would question though is you estimated what poundage you were shooting after backing out the limb bolts a little. You really need to pull a bow on a scale and KNOW for sure what it's pulling. Things get tagged wrong all the time. Bows are different etc etc etc. It's possible you were pulling less or 10 pounds more.