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chaivsnichol 01-31-2007 11:00 AM

Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 
Do bowhunter really hate other hunters that much? I know other hunterscomes along and chase away the game, what is the right etiquette?

Germ 01-31-2007 11:16 AM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 
I have nothing but love for all my hunting brothers and sisters:)

MOmightymite 01-31-2007 11:17 AM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 
No. Hunters dont hate each other. If you are hunting public land, and someone walks up on the area you are hunting that is just something you have to deal with. They have every right to be there as you do, so nothing can really be said. I hunt a lot of public land and we usually try to tell others where we are hunting so they know there is a hunter in that area, and they will probably try another place.You can't hate soemone for hunting as long as they are obeying the law. Now on the other hand if it is private property and they come through your spot, then they need to be approached and told they are not supposed to be there. In that situation I think there is probably going to be more of a problem.

demoIL 01-31-2007 11:18 AM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 
I don't... I hunt every way and every chance I get...
I support all "sportsman"

GMMAT 01-31-2007 11:23 AM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 
The people I have problems with.....I wouldn't call "hunters".

Red Lion 01-31-2007 11:35 AM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 
I only hate on individual players not the game!;)

Arthur P 01-31-2007 11:37 AM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 

The people I have problems with.....I wouldn't call "hunters".
Couldn't have said it better. :)

A lot of anger does exist though. It mostly comes from hunters who use other weapons that somehow feel they are unfairly excluded from participating in archery seasons. At a game commission public input meeting I went to recently, one fella was complaining and saying he should be allowed to use a handgun in bow season because it's effective range was the same as a compound. :eek:

I guess they do it because they are jealous and it's easier to bitch about it and play the victim rather than to buy and learn to use a bow proficiently. And they get really upset when bowhunters band together to protect the integrity of archery seasons and say NO!

But that kind of thing the drawback of having weapon-exclusive seasons, I suppose. Human nature.

Hotburn76 01-31-2007 11:40 AM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 
I do not think they hate hunters in general but sometimes being over protective of a spot or area can creep up on you with out realizing it. Often I see it is the methods that get hated the most. Do a search on Crossbows in the regular Bowhunting forum and you can feel and see the love right away.

bigcountry 01-31-2007 11:41 AM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 

ORIGINAL: chaivsnichol

Do bowhunter really hate other hunters that much? I know other hunterscomes along and chase away the game, what is the right etiquette?

the only problem I have is with those dadgone hmong people:D

Everyone else in the world is equal.

BigJ71 01-31-2007 11:47 AM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 
I think (and I know I will get flamed for this) bowhunters as a whole are a bunch of elitist and self absorbed hunters that think their way of hunting is the hardest and therefore are the "best hunters" if you will. And they show alot of animosity to other hunters.

One only needs to look at this very forum andat the replies regarding this sort of comparison (gun hunter vs bow hunter)

Sadly it seems (at least to me) that most who are like this only bowhunt, maybe they pick up a rifle or shotgun during the gun season but haven't hunted with other types of weapons and other types of quary. If they had then they would realize just how wrong thay are about other hunters and their hunting abilities.

There are many here that don't fit into that catagory but there are even more who do.

My .02

GR8atta2d 01-31-2007 11:50 AM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 

ORIGINAL: BigJ12

I think (and I know I will get flamed for this) bowhunters as a whole are a bunch of elitist and self absorbed hunters that think their way of hunting is the hardest and therefore are the "best hunters" if you will. And they show alot of animosity to other hunters.

One only needs to look at this very forum andat the replies regarding this sort of comparison (gun hunter vs bow hunter)

Sadly it seems (at least to me) that most who are like this only bowhunt, maybe they pick up a rifle or shotgun during the gun season but haven't hunted with other types of weapons and other types of quary. If they had then they would realize just how wrong thay are about other hunters and their hunting abilities.

There are many here that don't fit into that catagory but there are even more who do.

My .02
I'm not flaming BigJ12..I'm agreeing! Based on my years on this board.

hardcorehunter 01-31-2007 11:54 AM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 
The only hunter I don't care for is the "antihunter". All others hunters that do the sport legally and ethically are my friends.

GMMAT 01-31-2007 12:03 PM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 
BigJ.....it's one thing to state an opinion. It's another to let someone else's opinion bother you. If you do.....YOU have made that CHOICE.

MY opinion on gun hunting shouldn't affect YOU. Your choice.

Jeff

Campo 01-31-2007 12:05 PM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT

The people I have problems with.....I wouldn't call "hunters".
Well said Gmmat

BigJ71 01-31-2007 12:09 PM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

BigJ.....it's one thing to state an opinion. It's another to let someone else's opinion bother you. If you do.....YOU have made that CHOICE.

MY opinion on gun hunting shouldn't affect YOU. Your choice.

Jeff
Jeff,

I never said it bothered me, please re-read my post.

I simply statedMY observations regarding this subject.

GMMAT 01-31-2007 12:23 PM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 
BigJ....I didn't mean to infer you did. I should have said "In general". I started to edit it and decided not to.....but that's what I meant.

Sorry.

Jeff

BigJ71 01-31-2007 12:41 PM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

BigJ....I didn't mean to infer you did. I should have said "In general". I started to edit it and decided not to.....but that's what I meant.

Sorry.

Jeff
No problem Jeff........but if you keep this upyou will have to change your sig line!:D:D:D

GMMAT 01-31-2007 12:44 PM

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No kidding.:(

I didn't even think about that.

OK....I meant you![&:]

TJF 01-31-2007 01:01 PM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 

ORIGINAL: BigJ12

I think (and I know I will get flamed for this) bowhunters as a whole are a bunch of elitist and self absorbed hunters that think their way of hunting is the hardest and therefore are the "best hunters" if you will. And they show alot of animosity to other hunters.

One only needs to look at this very forum andat the replies regarding this sort of comparison (gun hunter vs bow hunter)

Sadly it seems (at least to me) that most who are like this only bowhunt, maybe they pick up a rifle or shotgun during the gun season but haven't hunted with other types of weapons and other types of quary. If they had then they would realize just how wrong thay are about other hunters and their hunting abilities.

There are many here that don't fit into that catagory but there are even more who do.

My .02
Very good post. I agree. A few seem to think their way is the only way and have no experience at all with the many different methods of hunting/trapping... yetspew garbageabout something they know nothing about. Sad as it doesn't do us any favors and just divides us even more.

Tim

BigJ71 01-31-2007 01:07 PM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

No kidding.:(

I didn't even think about that.

OK....I meant you![&:]
LOL!

yajsab 01-31-2007 01:11 PM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 
> the only problem I have is with those dadgone hmong people:D

Really!! Why don't you explain your reason here?

BigJ71 01-31-2007 01:12 PM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 

ORIGINAL: TJF


ORIGINAL: BigJ12

I think (and I know I will get flamed for this) bowhunters as a whole are a bunch of elitist and self absorbed hunters that think their way of hunting is the hardest and therefore are the "best hunters" if you will. And they show alot of animosity to other hunters.

One only needs to look at this very forum andat the replies regarding this sort of comparison (gun hunter vs bow hunter)

Sadly it seems (at least to me) that most who are like this only bowhunt, maybe they pick up a rifle or shotgun during the gun season but haven't hunted with other types of weapons and other types of quary. If they had then they would realize just how wrong thay are about other hunters and their hunting abilities.

There are many here that don't fit into that catagory but there are even more who do.

My .02
Very good post. I agree. A few seem to think their way is the only way and have no experience at all with the many different methods of hunting/trapping... yetspew garbageabout something they know nothing about. Sad as it doesn't do us any favors and just divides us even more.

Tim
I'm gladsome are seeing what I was trying to say... believe me I love the bowhunting community and alot are very good people and hunters, it just turns my guts when I read posts about how gun hunters don't have a clue and bowhunting this and bowhunting that...bla..bla..bla

Your right TJF, it does not do us any favors and I might add, shines a bad light on hunting in general.

GMMAT 01-31-2007 01:17 PM

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Well......there also comes a time when telling the truth shouldn't be misconstrued as slander towards a group of people. If there's more crime, for instance, committed by women....than men.....then I don't see the harm in telling the truth about women.

Ithink you know where i'm headed....so I'll leave it at that.

BigJ71 01-31-2007 01:46 PM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Well......there also comes a time when telling the truth shouldn't be misconstrued as slander towards a group of people. If there's more crime, for instance, committed by women....than men.....then I don't see the harm in telling the truth about women.

Ithink you know where i'm headed....so I'll leave it at that.
I hear ya Jeff, but I think that has more to do with numbers and not percentages. I think it's far easier to be a slob bow hunter than slob gun hunter. I know lots of gun hunters that have no clue about their weapon, how it works, where to aim, what distances are ethical, yet every year they kill deer.

I have seen (and known) bow hunters who know absolutely nothing about their bows, they don't care to even try to set them up or tune them but have others do it for them. They also are not learned in where to aim or what distances they should ethically shoot yet every year thay are out there hunting and slinging arrows everywere.

The trauma and shock a deer sustains from a gun hit, no matter where they are stuck is FAR greater than an arrow strike. There is a far greater chance of a bow hit gone wrong than a gun hit.

This is just the mentality I'm talking about, you will find slob hunters in all facets of hunting, you need to look at the percentages of each not the percentage of the overall numbers. There are far more gun hunters overall therefore it stands to reason far more slob gun hunters than bow hunters. This does not mean bow hunters are better.

I think most would be shocked if it could be tallied, what the actual recovery percentagesare between gun hunters and bowhunters.



Arthur P 01-31-2007 01:57 PM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 

I'm glad some are seeing what I was trying to say... believe me I love the bowhunting community and alot are very good people and hunters, it just turns my guts when I read posts about how gun hunters don't have a clue and bowhunting this and bowhunting that...bla..bla..bla

Your right TJF, it does not do us any favors and I might add, shines a bad light on hunting in general.
One thing you guys are missing is the relative YOUTHFULLNESS on this forum. Go look at that poll that ran a week or so back on the age breakdown of the forum's membership. A huge number of these guys are teenagers, probably a lot more of them than there are of us in the over-fifty crowd.

It's great that there are so many young people in bowhunting, and I love it. On the other hand, many of them haven't developed a few things yet. Experience, certainly. An inoffensive way of expressing a conflicting opinion, most definitely. Maturity too, maybe?

Then there are those who recently discovered bowhunting and, for them, nothing else is worth doing. You know how annoying someone who just quit smoking can be? It can be the same for a former gun hunter who has completely fallen in love with bowhunting.

To tell the truth, I think anyone who comes on these forums, takes what is said too seriously, and tries to use it to paint a picture of ALL bowhunters in general, isn't being too darn bright. What kind of view you develop about bowhunting from a forum is very much dependent on the demographics of that particular forum.

GregH 01-31-2007 02:01 PM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 
I must be sheltered. I've heard about other types of hunters bickering about which one is best, but I've never witnessed it, personally. All of my bowhunting friends, also gun hunt. In most instances, we as a group, take gun hunting lighter because we are hunting with family and friends. While bowhunting, it seems that we are allloners. We prefer bowhunting but we still gun hunt. What's to argue about? It's legal, do both if you want.

BigJ71 01-31-2007 02:02 PM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 

ORIGINAL: Arthur P


I'm glad some are seeing what I was trying to say... believe me I love the bowhunting community and alot are very good people and hunters, it just turns my guts when I read posts about how gun hunters don't have a clue and bowhunting this and bowhunting that...bla..bla..bla

Your right TJF, it does not do us any favors and I might add, shines a bad light on hunting in general.
One thing you guys are missing is the relative YOUTHFULLNESS on this forum. Go look at that poll that ran a week or so back on the age breakdown of the forum's membership. A huge number of these guys are teenagers, probably a lot more of them than there are of us in the over-fifty crowd.

It's great that there are so many young people in bowhunting, and I love it. On the other hand, many of them haven't developed a few things yet. Experience, certainly. An inoffensive way of expressing a conflicting opinion, most definitely. Maturity too, maybe?

Then there are those who recently discovered bowhunting and, for them, nothing else is worth doing. You know how annoying someone who just quit smoking can be? It can be the same for a former gun hunter who has completely fallen in love with bowhunting.

To tell the truth, I think anyone who comes on these forums, takes what is said too seriously, and tries to use it to paint a picture of ALL bowhunters in general, isn't being too darn bright. What kind of view you develop about bowhunting from a forum is very much dependent on the demographics of that particular forum.
I agree with you Arthur........sadly my impression of bow hunters (for the most part) was obtained from sources other than this board.[&o]

It's gotten to the point where I loath going to my local archery shops due to this.

Paul L Mohr 01-31-2007 02:03 PM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 
I have always said this. A slob hunter is a slob hunter, doesn't matter what weapon they choose. I actually see more hillbilly ignorant bow hunters than I do gun hunters.

And they are the ones that think they are better because they use a bow, to bad they suck at it. Go figure?

Paul

GR8atta2d 01-31-2007 02:03 PM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 

ORIGINAL: yajsab

> the only problem I have is with those dadgone hmong people:D

Really!! Why don't you explain your reason here?
I'm afraid the original poster of this replyhas made a racial slur based on the actions of ONE individual in Wisconsin. I, for one, am sorry you had to read this slanderous act of profiling on our (all of our)board.

He did make the smiley face :Dso maybe it was just a joke gone extremely bad.

GMMAT 01-31-2007 02:06 PM

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Then there are those who recently discovered bowhunting and, for them, nothing else is worth doing.
This describes me....if you're ONLY talking hunting. I've never gun-hunted for deer. I've gun hunted for turkeys; fowl; small game.....but never deer. The ONLY thing I know about deer hunting with a firearm is what I see on TV and my PERSONAL EXPERIENCES with the people I know who gun hunt.

BigJ....I don't dispute what you say...


I have seen (and known) bow hunters who know absolutely nothing about their bows, they don't care to even try to set them up or tune them but have others do it for them. They also are not learned in where to aim or what distances they should ethically shoot yet every year thay are out there hunting and slinging arrows everywere.
But understand.....I must be spoiled. I only hunt private land.....I've been taught a LOT by you guys....and some REALLY knowledgeable dear friends. I have an archery shop about 2 miles from my home that my son and I go to a couple to 3 times a week to shoot. The guys in there are WONDERFUL.....and the clientel I interact with hunt like I do. The owner has clinics.....puts on shoots......and we don't hear/see much (really NONE) of what you describe.

I only know deer unting through MY experiences. So far.....I've been blessed.



gutshot 01-31-2007 02:09 PM

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I made a decision to bowhunt only a long time ago. I don't have anything against gun hunting it's just not for me.

nodog 01-31-2007 02:11 PM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 

ORIGINAL: Germ

I have nothing but love for all my hunting brothers and sisters:)
Well said! Same here just not as sappy.;)

Keep in mind Germs pay check is connected with other hunters love of the sport. Also keep in mind that doesn't mean he isn't genuine about his love for others. Just for the record though, he does hail from Mich i gan.:DJK

RWK 01-31-2007 02:41 PM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 
In New York, just mention a crossbow and the NY Bowhunter Assocation see's blood, thats why there not allowed in NY State. These folks are bad news for any hunter.

Arthur P 01-31-2007 03:03 PM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 

In New York, just mention a crossbow and the NY Bowhunter Assocation see's blood, thats why there not allowed in NY State. These folks are bad news for any hunter.
Not ANY hunter. Just those who feel somehow entitled to use their crossbows in bow season.


yajsab 01-31-2007 03:03 PM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 

ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d


ORIGINAL: yajsab

> the only problem I have is with those dadgone hmong people:D

Really!! Why don't you explain your reason here?
I'm afraid the original poster of this replyhas made a racial slur based on the actions of ONE individual in Wisconsin. I, for one, am sorry you had to read this slanderous act of profiling on our (all of our)board.

He did make the smiley face :Dso maybe it was just a joke gone extremely bad.

A :Ddoesn't mean anything. A "racial slur" is a racial slur! And I'm not profiling your board. I am a gun/bow hunter myself, and I respect everyone in here.

PreacherTony 01-31-2007 03:19 PM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 

ORIGINAL: Arthur P


I'm glad some are seeing what I was trying to say... believe me I love the bowhunting community and alot are very good people and hunters, it just turns my guts when I read posts about how gun hunters don't have a clue and bowhunting this and bowhunting that...bla..bla..bla

Your right TJF, it does not do us any favors and I might add, shines a bad light on hunting in general.
One thing you guys are missing is the relative YOUTHFULLNESS on this forum. Go look at that poll that ran a week or so back on the age breakdown of the forum's membership. A huge number of these guys are teenagers, probably a lot more of them than there are of us in the over-fifty crowd.

It's great that there are so many young people in bowhunting, and I love it. On the other hand, many of them haven't developed a few things yet. Experience, certainly. An inoffensive way of expressing a conflicting opinion, most definitely. Maturity too, maybe?

Then there are those who recently discovered bowhunting and, for them, nothing else is worth doing. You know how annoying someone who just quit smoking can be? It can be the same for a former gun hunter who has completely fallen in love with bowhunting.

To tell the truth, I think anyone who comes on these forums, takes what is said too seriously, and tries to use it to paint a picture of ALL bowhunters in general, isn't being too darn bright. What kind of view you develop about bowhunting from a forum is very much dependent on the demographics of that particular forum.
Arthur ... well said! If I look outside of this forum, which is the only way you can really know people, IMO, I think most sportsmen have each others back. It's hard to tell attitude from reading words. Also, it is easy to puff your chest out or be someone different, when you exist, for the most part, as bits and bytes.

To quote Jeff .....I'm just sayin' ;)



bloodcrick 01-31-2007 04:00 PM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 
Me two Germ, can we get a group hug here?[8D]
Dan

ORIGINAL: Germ

I have nothing but love for all my hunting brothers and sisters:)

NY Harvester 01-31-2007 04:23 PM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 
No.

bloodcrick 01-31-2007 04:31 PM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 
please!!!

ORIGINAL: NY Harvester

No.

tsoc 01-31-2007 04:34 PM

RE: Do bowhunter really hate other hunter that much?
 
Im with BigJ12 on this as well.Elitist attitudes make me crazy! I don't care how people choose to hunt as long as it is within the law.I know and respect some awfully good rifle hunters whose skills are as good as any bowhunter.I hope they never take up bowhunting:D! You have to practice all the time,what if the darn thing wont stand still when you are shooting at them,you could fall out of a tree.Hey I am only looking out for their well being!;)


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