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RE: Politically correct bowhunters
ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter ORIGINAL: _Dan ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter They took away the spring hunts and still have the fall. I am sure it hurt some economies in little towns up there. Mothers fresh out of the den with mommy possibly getting shot and leaving the cubs behind has a lot of sympathy from hunters too.I am speaking about America, not Canada.Canadiansrolled over and gave up their handgun rights too. I am not Canadian and can't answer why they do what they do up there. From what I have heard this about to be reversed because the ON bear pops are too high. To be honest, Canadians don't bear hunt and there may have not been enough pressure from Americans to keep the spring bear hunt open. I have bear hunted 7 times and only one was in the spring. Miserable hunt because of the black flies, ticks, and mosquitos. I would never hunt in the spring in ON if I could for bear. The likelyhood of a sow with cubs getting killed is almost 0%. The cubs are usually the first to the bait or are next to the sow. It was purely sentimental and not factual. As far as hurting "some" economies "up there," it nearly put a lot of resorts out of business. Some people had to sell thier camps. Also, as far as the spring season coming back, don't hold your breath. I am a resort owner and bear guide and I would be shocked if it did come back. Carry on......... As for the people you witnessed shooting sows with cubs, that is illegal and was done knowingly. I would boot anyone like that out of my camp in a heartbeat. May I note that your comparison to them orphaning cubs with what happened in Ontario is different. The Ontario season closure was based on the idea that large numbers of cubs were orphaned unknowingly, not because it was thought guys were doing it on purpose. On a side note....The closing of the spring season did not affect me, I bought my camp in 2002, 3 years after the season had been closed. Personally, the only reason I would like to see it come back is for the other resort owners. I can make just as much on fall hunts as spring hunts, plus I have more time to do it and provide a quality hunt in the fall. |
RE: Politically correct bowhunters
Ihave owned my ownbusinessfor over 20 yearsinsmall townand serve lots of other communites in the area. It is a very successful business and serves mainly residential homes. Some of my clients are definately anti hunters. I choose not to rub my hunting in their face as this is bad business for my wallet. They know I hunt and have a bowhunting business.They still choose to do business with me. These clients are few on my route.My non-hunting clients make up most of my route. These people ask how I have been and sometimes how my hunting is going. They probably don't care and are just being polite. The other small part of my route is hunters. My hunting has no impact on the vast majority of the people that I see and even though some areantis, I know how to get along with them. For the most part, hunting is out of their eyes as they don't watch hunting shows and could care less about what Ted Nugent or somebody else does on a TV huntingshow. My point is that the only people that care about huntingare the antis and the hunters. The others just don't care and if their taxes are going to go up to fund the millions and millions of dollars of lost revenue that hunting and fishing brings into the states economy, my bet is they are going to go with their wallet.
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RE: Politically correct bowhunters
ORIGINAL: LeftyBuckmaster so far i dont think i have heard anything about the Farm Bureau and the Insurance companies. These organizations have billions of dollars of revenue that they are willing to spend on determining if deer would ever be banned. Personally i dont think that it would go over well after a year or so Around my area the farm bureau especially which is funded by insurance companies wants to bump our county up to 2 deer from 1 deer which could devestate the herd since we do not have many deer in our area but farmers have been convinced by the farm bureau that it is bad and now the farm bureau is pressuring the DNR to raise the deer harvest rates The insurance companies would rather pay the DNR to raise the harvest rates than to have to pay out 20 times more for deer car collisions or have to pay a company to thin the herd over the whole united states. |
RE: Politically correct bowhunters
I'll be glad when that ankle heals up so you can get back to work. Man, you can tell you have been boared with all the small novel post. Whats that young pretty wife of yours doing? Your pickles not broke is it?
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RE: Politically correct bowhunters
ORIGINAL: MOTOWNHONKEY I'll be glad when that ankle heals up so you can get back to work. Man, you can tell you have been boared with all the small novel post. Whats that young pretty wife of yours doing? Your pickles not broke is it? |
RE: Politically correct bowhunters
Original: hardcorehunter They took away the spring hunts and still have the fall. I am sure it hurt some economies in little towns up there. Mothers fresh out of the den with mommy possibly getting shot and leaving the cubs behind has a lot of sympathy from hunters too.I am speaking about America, not Canada.Canadiansrolled over and gave up their handgun rights too. I am not Canadian and can't answer why they do what they do up there. From what I have heard this about to be reversed because the ON bear pops are too high. To be honest, Canadians don't bear hunt and there may have not been enough pressure from Americans to keep the spring bear hunt open. I have bear hunted 7 times and only one was in the spring. Miserable hunt because of the black flies, ticks, and mosquitos. I would never hunt in the spring in ON if I could for bear. ORIGINAL: _Dan ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter They took away the spring hunts and still have the fall. I am sure it hurt some economies in little towns up there. Mothers fresh out of the den with mommy possibly getting shot and leaving the cubs behind has a lot of sympathy from hunters too.I am speaking about America, not Canada.Canadiansrolled over and gave up their handgun rights too. I am not Canadian and can't answer why they do what they do up there. From what I have heard this about to be reversed because the ON bear pops are too high. To be honest, Canadians don't bear hunt and there may have not been enough pressure from Americans to keep the spring bear hunt open. I have bear hunted 7 times and only one was in the spring. Miserable hunt because of the black flies, ticks, and mosquitos. I would never hunt in the spring in ON if I could for bear. The likelyhood of a sow with cubs getting killed is almost 0%. The cubs are usually the first to the bait or are next to the sow. It was purely sentimental and not factual. As far as hurting "some" economies "up there," it nearly put a lot of resorts out of business. Some people had to sell thier camps. Also, as far as the spring season coming back, don't hold your breath. I am a resort owner and bear guide and I would be shocked if it did come back. Carry on......... |
RE: Politically correct bowhunters
ORIGINAL: Raxxmaster Original: hardcorehunter They took away the spring hunts and still have the fall. I am sure it hurt some economies in little towns up there. Mothers fresh out of the den with mommy possibly getting shot and leaving the cubs behind has a lot of sympathy from hunters too.I am speaking about America, not Canada.Canadiansrolled over and gave up their handgun rights too. I am not Canadian and can't answer why they do what they do up there. From what I have heard this about to be reversed because the ON bear pops are too high. To be honest, Canadians don't bear hunt and there may have not been enough pressure from Americans to keep the spring bear hunt open. I have bear hunted 7 times and only one was in the spring. Miserable hunt because of the black flies, ticks, and mosquitos. I would never hunt in the spring in ON if I could for bear. ORIGINAL: _Dan ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter They took away the spring hunts and still have the fall. I am sure it hurt some economies in little towns up there. Mothers fresh out of the den with mommy possibly getting shot and leaving the cubs behind has a lot of sympathy from hunters too.I am speaking about America, not Canada.Canadiansrolled over and gave up their handgun rights too. I am not Canadian and can't answer why they do what they do up there. From what I have heard this about to be reversed because the ON bear pops are too high. To be honest, Canadians don't bear hunt and there may have not been enough pressure from Americans to keep the spring bear hunt open. I have bear hunted 7 times and only one was in the spring. Miserable hunt because of the black flies, ticks, and mosquitos. I would never hunt in the spring in ON if I could for bear. The likelyhood of a sow with cubs getting killed is almost 0%. The cubs are usually the first to the bait or are next to the sow. It was purely sentimental and not factual. As far as hurting "some" economies "up there," it nearly put a lot of resorts out of business. Some people had to sell thier camps. Also, as far as the spring season coming back, don't hold your breath. I am a resort owner and bear guide and I would be shocked if it did come back. Carry on......... |
RE: Politically correct bowhunters
ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter ORIGINAL: Raxxmaster Original: hardcorehunter They took away the spring hunts and still have the fall. I am sure it hurt some economies in little towns up there. Mothers fresh out of the den with mommy possibly getting shot and leaving the cubs behind has a lot of sympathy from hunters too.I am speaking about America, not Canada.Canadiansrolled over and gave up their handgun rights too. I am not Canadian and can't answer why they do what they do up there. From what I have heard this about to be reversed because the ON bear pops are too high. To be honest, Canadians don't bear hunt and there may have not been enough pressure from Americans to keep the spring bear hunt open. I have bear hunted 7 times and only one was in the spring. Miserable hunt because of the black flies, ticks, and mosquitos. I would never hunt in the spring in ON if I could for bear. ORIGINAL: _Dan ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter They took away the spring hunts and still have the fall. I am sure it hurt some economies in little towns up there. Mothers fresh out of the den with mommy possibly getting shot and leaving the cubs behind has a lot of sympathy from hunters too.I am speaking about America, not Canada.Canadiansrolled over and gave up their handgun rights too. I am not Canadian and can't answer why they do what they do up there. From what I have heard this about to be reversed because the ON bear pops are too high. To be honest, Canadians don't bear hunt and there may have not been enough pressure from Americans to keep the spring bear hunt open. I have bear hunted 7 times and only one was in the spring. Miserable hunt because of the black flies, ticks, and mosquitos. I would never hunt in the spring in ON if I could for bear. The likelyhood of a sow with cubs getting killed is almost 0%. The cubs are usually the first to the bait or are next to the sow. It was purely sentimental and not factual. As far as hurting "some" economies "up there," it nearly put a lot of resorts out of business. Some people had to sell thier camps. Also, as far as the spring season coming back, don't hold your breath. I am a resort owner and bear guide and I would be shocked if it did come back. Carry on......... I never once claimed to be right all the time, I'm rarely right, I'm here to learn, nothing more but when I see a blatant understatment like yours, how can I sit idley by, Dan showed you how wrong you are but Canada doesn't count right HCH, your never wrong, at least that's the way I read your posts. |
RE: Politically correct bowhunters
ORIGINAL: Raxxmaster ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter ORIGINAL: Raxxmaster Original: hardcorehunter They took away the spring hunts and still have the fall. I am sure it hurt some economies in little towns up there. Mothers fresh out of the den with mommy possibly getting shot and leaving the cubs behind has a lot of sympathy from hunters too.I am speaking about America, not Canada.Canadiansrolled over and gave up their handgun rights too. I am not Canadian and can't answer why they do what they do up there. From what I have heard this about to be reversed because the ON bear pops are too high. To be honest, Canadians don't bear hunt and there may have not been enough pressure from Americans to keep the spring bear hunt open. I have bear hunted 7 times and only one was in the spring. Miserable hunt because of the black flies, ticks, and mosquitos. I would never hunt in the spring in ON if I could for bear. ORIGINAL: _Dan ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter They took away the spring hunts and still have the fall. I am sure it hurt some economies in little towns up there. Mothers fresh out of the den with mommy possibly getting shot and leaving the cubs behind has a lot of sympathy from hunters too.I am speaking about America, not Canada.Canadiansrolled over and gave up their handgun rights too. I am not Canadian and can't answer why they do what they do up there. From what I have heard this about to be reversed because the ON bear pops are too high. To be honest, Canadians don't bear hunt and there may have not been enough pressure from Americans to keep the spring bear hunt open. I have bear hunted 7 times and only one was in the spring. Miserable hunt because of the black flies, ticks, and mosquitos. I would never hunt in the spring in ON if I could for bear. The likelyhood of a sow with cubs getting killed is almost 0%. The cubs are usually the first to the bait or are next to the sow. It was purely sentimental and not factual. As far as hurting "some" economies "up there," it nearly put a lot of resorts out of business. Some people had to sell thier camps. Also, as far as the spring season coming back, don't hold your breath. I am a resort owner and bear guide and I would be shocked if it did come back. Carry on......... I never once claimed to be right all the time, I'm rarely right, I'm here to learn, nothing more but when I see a blatant understatment like yours, how can I sit idley by, Dan showed you how wrong you are but Canada doesn't count right HCH, your never wrong, at least that's the way I read your posts. |
RE: Politically correct bowhunters
I just want to make it known that I was not arguing or anything of the such. I was giving my personal observations on the situation with the Ontario bear hunt. HCH's steatements were not completely accurate and I just wanted to set the record straight. HCH stated that he was not Canadian. Though I am not either, I am pretty close to it and have a vested interest in the Canadian outdoors. Thus my reason for giving the facts and my opinions.
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