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TeeJay 01-24-2007 02:14 PM

RE: Politically correct bowhunters
 
If they dont want to see blood and guts. Why do they all stare at the car accident? Just have to see if anyone is dead or dyeing. Show the blood who cares what any one thinks!

GMMAT 01-24-2007 02:15 PM

RE: Politically correct bowhunters
 
Don I mean it....I appreciate and applaud your passion....I just hope you're right about us being invincible.

Thanks for the compliment on the shot, too. That was the entrance....and the blood trail was almost non-existent, believe it or not.

Copper31 01-24-2007 02:16 PM

RE: Politically correct bowhunters
 
Missed your point in your reply, forgive me.

I agree with you about the 80% of people that stradle the fence. I clean my game up for pics but I don't do it for PETA. I may do it for some of the non-hunters that will see the pic, but I do it for me. It is a personal preference as to what I feel looks good enought to show people. Hunters or not. HCH makes some good points in my opinion about revenue. I believe there is way to much state and federal revenue that would be lost.

GMMAT 01-24-2007 02:17 PM

RE: Politically correct bowhunters
 

I still think you ignore a segment of the hunting community that wants tasteful videos over not so tasteful ones. If a deer is writhing on the ground I think it shows respect to the deer to not show it, or celebrate that fact. A deer that dies that way should be sad to all of us, especially to those of us that take a deer's life. I think reveling in the blood and guts is a bit crass and childish. I'm not saying to be sterile. There's a big difference between saying "There's a good blood trail" and "Man, look at all this blood, that's what I'm talking about!" I don't want my deer pictures with the deer's tongue sticking out, not because I'm afraid of deer tongues but because it doesn't look nice. I don't take pictures of myself with bed-head and snot hanging out my nose why would I do the same with deer? I comb my hair (or at least tuck it up under a hat), smile, and clean up my deer so I have a good picture. You show hunters two pictures of fairly equal deer and one being a nicely arranged shot with a happy hunter and one a back of the truck picture and people are going to be naturally more impressed with the nicely compositioned photo. It's human nature.
Hear! Hear!

That was VERY well stated.

Raxxmaster 01-24-2007 02:17 PM

RE: Politically correct bowhunters
 

ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter


ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Don....on the surface it would seem that way.....BUT....I'll ask you, AGAIN...

What happened to dove hunting in MI?

What happened to bear hunting in NJ?

Can it happen, anywhere?

I'm NOT against you, here. I believe we're strong, too.....but all it's gonna take is the wrong politician or the wrong JUDGE (for you lefty - legislate from the bench, types) to see what we hold dear ABOLISHED!
I disagree. We will always have some arguing with whether a certain species should be hunted due to speciespopulation and peoples belief as to whether it should be called a hunted species. We have tried for years to get a dove season in IA. Bird feeder and bird lovers whined over it and it has not been allowed as it is classified as a songbird. The bear issue sparks alot of peoples blood because of whether feel it a population that is needed to control. and others don't. The season was only open a year, if I remember right, and then closed by the governor.These decisions are not based on bowhunting hunting,or hunting ethics. Furthermore, these actions you speak of had a very small economic impact on hunting license revenue. I still fail to see where anybody can show or prove to me that whether I have blood in a pic, call my kill a kill instead ofa harvest, or whether Ted kills a domesticlamb on a hunting realty show; that these actions are going to affect my right to bowhunt or hunt. That is because it ISN'T.

Yes, case won. I should have been an attorney
you'd make a poor attorney because you don't know your facts. Let's talk about the banning of spring bear hunting in Ontario. It was done solely on peoples feelings about shooting female bears with cubs by the antis and won which devistated the hunting community there economically. If you think it can't or won't happen your solely mistaken.

BobCo19-65 01-24-2007 02:19 PM

RE: Politically correct bowhunters
 

Does it really matter what the antis and peta think on this subject?
Exactly. I know I don't care what they think.

hardcorehunter 01-24-2007 02:30 PM

RE: Politically correct bowhunters
 
Let's compare bowhunting and hunting to another hobby for a lot of people. This is in Jeff's homestate, NASCAR. Nascar brings money to the state it is raced in with sales tax I presume on each ticket sale., taxes on the sale of alcohol and food served at the event. Millions of dollars probably generated for each state that holds the event. Now at alocal level, we have motels, restaurants, fuel, and other shopping that nascar fans spend their money on while in the particular town it is held and along the way while they travel to the race. What does nascar do good for the wel being of the environment or anything for that matter. Nothing. It pollutes the air with exhaust, wastes precious fuels, fills landfills up with used tires, and so does the trash generated by the fans in beer and food container waste. Is the state of NC or any other state going to ban it? Hell NO. MONEY. How about if Jeff Gordon isn't ethical in his driving and runs a guy in the wall, or has an affair with his pit drivers wife. Is the sport going to be outlawed because of his unethical or what others feel as unethical performance?I think not. Money talks. If you think hunting or bowhunting is going to be outlawed because of a few anti peta groups, I don't blame you. We have been brought upwith thisbelieve for a long time from groups of huntersthat make us paranoid that this is going to happen. Money runs everything people, always has and always will.

GMMAT 01-24-2007 02:44 PM

RE: Politically correct bowhunters
 
Why can't I buy a beer at a NCAA game, here, then????

GMMAT 01-24-2007 02:46 PM

RE: Politically correct bowhunters
 
Or ....why isn't it still called the WINSTON Cup?

Think RJReynolds didn't have some money?????

hardcorehunter 01-24-2007 02:48 PM

RE: Politically correct bowhunters
 

ORIGINAL: Raxxmaster


ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter


ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Don....on the surface it would seem that way.....BUT....I'll ask you, AGAIN...

What happened to dove hunting in MI?

What happened to bear hunting in NJ?

Can it happen, anywhere?

I'm NOT against you, here. I believe we're strong, too.....but all it's gonna take is the wrong politician or the wrong JUDGE (for you lefty - legislate from the bench, types) to see what we hold dear ABOLISHED!
I disagree. We will always have some arguing with whether a certain species should be hunted due to speciespopulation and peoples belief as to whether it should be called a hunted species. We have tried for years to get a dove season in IA. Bird feeder and bird lovers whined over it and it has not been allowed as it is classified as a songbird. The bear issue sparks alot of peoples blood because of whether feel it a population that is needed to control. and others don't. The season was only open a year, if I remember right, and then closed by the governor.These decisions are not based on bowhunting hunting,or hunting ethics. Furthermore, these actions you speak of had a very small economic impact on hunting license revenue. I still fail to see where anybody can show or prove to me that whether I have blood in a pic, call my kill a kill instead ofa harvest, or whether Ted kills a domesticlamb on a hunting realty show; that these actions are going to affect my right to bowhunt or hunt. That is because it ISN'T.

Yes, case won. I should have been an attorney
you'd make a poor attorney because you don't know your facts. Let's talk about the banning of spring bear hunting in Ontario. It was done solely on peoples feelings about shooting female bears with cubs by the antis and won which devistated the hunting community there economically. If you think it can't or won't happen your solely mistaken.
They took away the spring hunts and still have the fall. I am sure it hurt some economies in little towns up there. Mothers fresh out of the den with mommy possibly getting shot and leaving the cubs behind has a lot of sympathy from hunters too.I am speaking about America, not Canada.Canadiansrolled over and gave up their handgun rights too. I am not Canadian and can't answer why they do what they do up there. From what I have heard this about to be reversed because the ON bear pops are too high. To be honest, Canadians don't bear hunt and there may have not been enough pressure from Americans to keep the spring bear hunt open. I have bear hunted 7 times and only one was in the spring. Miserable hunt because of the black flies, ticks, and mosquitos. I would never hunt in the spring in ON if I could for bear.


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