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Washington Hunter 01-25-2007 08:04 AM

RE: Politically correct bowhunters
 
Germ and Jeff,

I see where you're both coming from now and I understand.

Thanks for the clarifications. :)

Germ 01-25-2007 08:04 AM

RE: Politically correct bowhunters
 

ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter


ORIGINAL: Germ


ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter


ORIGINAL: Germ

I just believe you can tell story without the "shock" value. HCH your story is just fine with me. There are a ton people who really do not care that we hunt, all I am saying is we do not rub them the wrong way. Call mePC, wussie, sensitive I really do not care.

HCH why is your buck so small[8D] I thoght they were all 190's in Iowa
Its not really shock value though, Germ. The words being used aren't being thrown in to spice the story up. Your story is just a toned down version of what happened.

If Don were to have blatantly exaggerated his story, emphasizing the gore involved in what we do, then that would have been added for shock value.

I think thats the main point being made, having to tone down a simple story because of the "shock value" involved just means we're catering to the anti's and non-hunting crowd. I'm not saying its wrong, but I don't believe its necessary either.
Dan if you notice the highlighted line, what I am saying young skywalker is this; there is no need to get non-hunters all riled up and rub there face in it. The "TedHead" think they can spot off anything because it is their "right". If folks do not like it tough!! Why rub it in to 80% people face who really do not care. Why take a chance a converting 1 of them to an anti?

On this forum tell it like it is, Don's post is fine, but please have the smarts when your in public(company you do not know) to tone it down.

Dan I work in a pretty liberal town, I have all my pictue here at work, and a nice srap book my daughter made. When people ask to look at it I let them know. "There are picture of dead deer, and coyotes in traps in the book, I just want to let you know" 99% they take a look and ask some question. No big deal, a little kindness goes a long way.

Plain and simple,most of us do not like things shoved in their face. So lets not shove hunting in people faces. Let the ARA do that and trip all over themsleves.

Yes HCH I am PC bowhunter in certain situations, and I am proud of it.
These 80% aren't having it rubbed in their face, you are missing the point in that this 80% doesn't care about hunting and doesn't watch hunting shows or look at hunting forums. They simply are not INTERESTED. Do you get it yet?
When Ted is on CNN they see it! If you think is this age of information they do not, well I am afraid you are wrong.

I am not talking about our little world, I always look at the big picture.



GMMAT 01-25-2007 08:04 AM

RE: Politically correct bowhunters
 
We get it, Don.

The 80%don't care (I concede)until they have a reason to (like maybe someone doing what Ted did.....or getting a picture e-mailed around the globe of a deer with an arrow in its' ham).

Why chance it, KNOWINGLY????

I'll support your right to take game in any legal manner with my $$, my voice and my time. I'm not against any of you. That argument's lame.

Germ 01-25-2007 08:06 AM

RE: Politically correct bowhunters
 

ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

Germ and Jeff,

I see where you're both coming from now and I understand.

Thanks for the clarifications. :)
The force is strong in this one[8D]



hardcorehunter 01-25-2007 08:17 AM

RE: Politically correct bowhunters
 
Slim, I didn't realize that blood on a deer in a pic or using the word "kill" instead of "harvest" was going out of my way to not be politically correct. Once again, please fill me in, anybody, on how my hunting rightsare going to betaken way by showing blood or using the word kill. Germ, please inform me how these words or blood on a deer on a hunting showare bad for a 6 year old to see. It is hunting for pete sake. No different as seeing the arrow go in the animal. Hunting shows suck IMO if the arrow isn't shown hitting the deer, that is why most of them show it. Should a 6 year old see an arrow hit a deer? I think so. If you don't want it to be viewed by them , turn the channel. Hunting shows are made for anadult male audience primarily. It is your choice to either let them watch it or not. I just can't see watering down life because of some ridiculous fear that antis are coming to get me.

Slim Pickins 01-25-2007 08:24 AM

RE: Politically correct bowhunters
 

ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter

Slim, I didn't realize that blood on a deer in a pic or using the word "kill" instead of "harvest" was going out of my way to not be politically correct. Once again, please fill me in, anybody, on how my hunting rightsare going to betaken way by showing blood or using the word kill. Germ, please inform me how these words or blood on a deer on a hunting showare bad for a 6 year old to see. It is hunting for pete sake. No different as seeing the arrow go in the animal. Hunting shows suck IMO if the arrow isn't shown hitting the deer, that is why most of them show it. Should a 6 year old see an arrow hit a deer? I think so. If you don't want it to be viewed by them , turn the channel. Hunting shows are made for anadult male audience primarily. It is your choice to either let them watch it or not. I just can't see watering down life because of some ridiculous fear that antis are coming to get me.
please read my post again
It says if you are not PC you are hurting the sport.

fletch920 01-25-2007 08:26 AM

RE: Politically correct bowhunters
 
You ask, does it matter what the anti's and PETA think? If you think the answer is anything other than ABSOLUTELY YES!!!! you are sorely mistaken.

With a quick search I found that the top 10 anti groups in the US have assets totalling in excess of $217 MILLION.And these were old figures. Annual revenues FAR exceed that. And that is just the top 10. Keep in mind there are actually hundreds of anti groups. You better pull your head out of the sand and take a good look around.

They have defeated trappers, bear hunters, cougar hunters, houndsmen and dove hunters right here in the good ol' USA. If you continue to ignore that and choose to act as if you are too tough to be beaten you have already lost. Your passion is well founded but poorly guided.

MC Bowhunter 01-25-2007 08:27 AM

RE: Politically correct bowhunters
 
HCH,
I agree with you on this. There is nothing wrong with showing reality to them at a young age. My daughter loves to sit around with me and watch hunting shows. One of her dreams is to kill a caibou with her bow. When she got her first deer with a bow this past season she had to carry the heart back to camp and show her grandpa where the broadhead went through it.

MC

GMMAT 01-25-2007 08:30 AM

RE: Politically correct bowhunters
 
There would seem to be a really simple way to get this point across......

Don....how's about I drive up and you and me go dove hunting at your place????

Or we could go to Germ's!

Oh....????

See??

_Dan 01-25-2007 08:31 AM

RE: Politically correct bowhunters
 

ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter

Once again, please fill me in, anybody, on how my hunting rightsare going to betaken way by showing blood or using the word kill.

First, I agree with points on both sides of this arguement.

Don, it goes back to the example of the Ontario spring bear hunt. IF the wrong person, with some clout, views it and it changes them then strong emotions set in. In a case like this, emotions in the wrong hands are much more powerful than money. They are almost like a weapon, harmless unless in the wrong hands.


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