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I started using a WB about the same time I quit using treestands for the most part.i like being able to crawl down a fenceline, sneak through a thicket, or follow a deer trail through the cattails with my arrow nocked and not have to worry about it popping off the rest.I also find myself shooting from very awkward positions from time to time and have had arrows drop off the rest before in these situations.

Theyre not fool proof though, like it or not there is a certain amount of noise associated with them but it can be kept pretty minimal.Ive drawn back on deer standing a couple yards away and not had them notice, Ive also seen deer 20 yrds away tense up as I draw back, dont know if its the sound or the movement thats alerted them in those situations.

Weather can affect them, Ive hunted deer in therain and had the rest do some questionable things mostly noise related, but mostly in extremely cold weather is where I ran into problems.The late season here brings temps well below zero and some years the windchill drops it to -20 to -40 degrees for long periods of time.Three times in these conditions Ive taken shots that resulted in the arrow making a clunking noise as it passed through the whiskers and dropping under the deer.But that was onlythree times in 6 years, Ive had as much problems with other rests in the past in much nicer weather.Near as I can tell the whiskers just got hard and the fletching couldnt pass through them as easily resulting in the noise and arrow dropping off fast.Reaching down and rubbing the whiskers occasionaly seems to help if youre gonna be sitting or walking for awhile.

All in all its the best rest Ive found for the type of hunting I do, its got minor drawbacks but Ive been happy for the most part.If I strictly stand hunted or used a ground blind without all the moving around I do Id probably check into a drop away.

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You said it all in that statement. It is the finish on your arrow. Perfect exampl: Last Sat. a friend & myself were @ a range shooting @ 20yds. He shoots GT's w/a camo finish, & a fall away. I shoot Easton Axis w/a WB. When he was drawing back I could hear his arrow 15' standing behind him. If I can hear it, the deer sure will hear it. I noticed the same sound on those GT's on my fall away on my previous bow. Same thing, dead quiet winter morning. Before puchasing the Eastons, I move them back & forth on the WB & did not hear any thing. My friend also stood behind me when I was shooting the Eastons & a WB, & stated that is was quiet. The Eastons have a very slick/smooth finish, while the camo finish looks good, you can feel it by sliding your finger across it. I don't think the noise has to do with the rest as much as the finish on the arrow is the culprit.

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in da woods:

You'll get no argument from me. What riled me up, last year...is a WB fanatic telling me that there's NO WAY that sound (you know....the one YOU and my deer heard) was what put my buck on full alert. It makes a noise 9with MY arrows....and others. It doesn't with others. I just had too much wrapped up in arrows to let a rest dictate which ones I could and couldn't shoot.

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Exactly GMMAT; I was buying a new bow along w/arrows, & the Eastons were recommended by people here & the proshop owner, who actually uses them hunt'n. It just turns out that the they are quiet with that particular rest. Now my friend is considering putting felt pads on his fall away to quiet down the arrows. I couldn't see him or anyoneelse trashing their arrows for thesake of a rest.We'll see how it turns out next week.

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SO to "fix" your problem, you chose to buy another rest, when in fact you could've bought new arrows for about the same price and done the same thing!
If the noise was such a factor, why is it that it took a deer to alert you to the noise? Was it not something that you had noticed before the deer alerted to the noise?

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I'm not following you. If I Spend $120 on new arrows......then what do I do with the $120 worth of arrows I already have?

I was in my infancy as far as deer hunting and bowhunting were concerned. I didn't know a lot of things I know, now, at that point. I learned the hard way. I'm trying to save others the lesson.

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This topic never seems to fail!!.....:eek:

I like the WB for many of the reasons already posted.I like the simple concept and the fact that I can eliminate moving parts by using it. It offers less that could potentially mess up. I like to practice K.I.S.S.

The main point in choosing/using anything for hunting is if you are confident in using it. If you have doubts even if they are in your own mind..........get rid of it and get something else. If you are not sure about the design and it raises questions in you mind..........change.

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Just went from a WB deluxe to a Ripcord, shouldhave done this LONG ago.
There is no comparison really, full containment, silent and no vane contact mmmm.
Laying your bow in your lap?? There's no way I'd becaught dead in a tree with my bow in my lap. Go get yourself a realtree bow hanger with the two joints, you'll have that bow right in front of you at all times.

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That right there is what separates the men from the boys. Having this discussion with someone who doesn't understand that yet is pointless.


Bravo.

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So your friends drop away is louder then your WB???...........shocking.



You scared away a deer with the sound from drawing a drop away??.......Interesting.



So you were not only smart enough to check out your equipment before buying it..........but also before hunting with it as well??? Sounds logical. If you know your gear as well as you should then there should be no surprises in the woods...........no matter what you are shooting. If you scare a deer with a sound in the woods you have no one to blame but yourself.........for either making that sound when you shouldn't have, or for not knowing enough about deer to realize that sound would spook them.

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Of course there is..........my statement was that noise from a WB is a non-issue IMO. I never said it makes no noise. Anyone with even a BASIC understanding of physics can comprehend that dragging an arrow for 20+ inches over ANY other material will make some amout of noise. EVERY rest has to deal with this fact of life. That's why fork tamers, moleskin, shrink wrap and every other gadget is selling on shelves all over the country. With these add-ons you can quiet most any rest out there to an acceptable level. I don't like add-ons and glue, and extra stuff stuck on such a vital part of my bow. The WB is more then quiet enough to draw on and kill whatever you want to. I have at least 20,000 shots through mine with arrows of all kinds.......and I personally shoot frequently with no less then 5 other guys who shoot them and they all shoot different arrows. None of these setups scare deer either (and we would all certainly say something if we thought even for a second that one of our bows was too loud to hunt with (family and good friends).

We still have one guy who comes over and shoots with an older Bodoodle with worn fork tamers..........that thing is like nails on a chalk board.

Noise is something EVERY hunter should be concerned about........My experience over the last 4 years of shooting a WB is that fortunately it is not something I need to worry about.

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http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.a...age=1&key=


This is a link to a thread on this site where 6 members have problems with the QAD rest............7 considering Muzzyman had his break on him shortly after. You will also notice that the picture of the rest on the front page of the QAD site shows the rest covered in felt/moleskin.........obviously there are noise issues with this rest also or the company would not feel the need to ensconce the thing in velvet.

Now I am sure I could look and find threads full of guys griping about WB's too..............the point is that EVERY rest has good and bad points.

When taking the whole picture into consideration I believe the WB has more to offer as a hunting rest.

Thousands of animals of all kinds fall to the WB year after year.........it is probably the best selling hunting rest of all time (just a guess).....tournaments are won in Vegas with it.........our very own dukemichaels even manages to kill some pretty darn big bucks with it (damn deer nerds [8D]). It's a great hunting rest.

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I'll jump back into this fray only because I was called out. Since I'm the only one who mentioned that I keep my bow in my lap I will assume you were refering to me.

So there is no way you will be caught dead with your bow on your lap....huh......so you have NEVER had a deer sneak in without you knowing?

It does not matter if I'm sitting or standing my hand is ALWAYS on the bow grip. It's just the way I have always hunted. The least amount of movement the better. Most of the time I also have my release attached to, and you can bet your a$$ that I am standing with bow in hand and release attached during the last "magic hour"

You hunt the way you want, I'll hunt the way I want.If you want some metal hinged arm sticking out in front of you just so you have your bow at close reach fine, but don't come crying here saying you hit it with your bow (or yourself) or the deer saw you reaching for your bow...... Or better yet, saw you trying to move some silly double hinged POS out of the way so you could take a shot because the deer just happened to come in on the side that your bow hanger is on and is now between you and it!

2 sides to every coin.

I'll just keepmy bow in hand with the arrow safely enclosed in a Whisker Biscuit rest thank you.

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BigJ-Amen!

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I have a couple wisker biscuits I'm willing to get rid of real cheap if you are interested.

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Atlasman, my post wasnt directed at you personally.Matter of fact I didnt read 90% of the posts in this topic.The original post asked a question, I gave an honest answer based on my experience with the rest.If Im going to recomend a product to someone Ill certainly point out any potential drawbacks it may have and dont feel obligated to stand on my head defending it even if its one I use personally and frequently.I have no experience with drop aways, I cant give an opinion on them and I wont give a biased comparison on them just because I use a WB.I sure the hell dont need a lecture on physics, I dont care how many arrows you have shot, and Im not even sure what the number of guys you practice with has to do with the conversation.Dont know what you read into that comment you quoted from me but get over it, all you did was went into a long rant that basically agreed with what I said, whats your point?Theres a reason posts like this always go to hell in a hurry andpeople pushing thier favorite product like they own stock in the company is usually most of it.

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Mine was not directed at you either..........I picked your quote only because it mentioned noise and that was the point I was about to elaborate on.


My point WAS basically in agreement with you.........I don't see how you read any more into it then that.


You claim to not like biased opinions but then slam someone who has a positive opinion as "pushing a product". Stop reading into things and relax...........I wasn't even talking to you (or anyone else) in particular. I justed used your quote as a launching point for specific subject.

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Your post came across as being kinda condecending weather you meant it to or not.

And on page 4 you had already made your point about the noise or lack of noise with a WB.

Thats why I thought you were directing somethingat me.You already had a launching point for that subject.Anyway, it doesnt matter, if I misunderstood your post I apologize.

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Like I said.......I wasn't talking to you or anyone else in particular so that point is moot...........and what does the weather have to do with this? ;)


And then I elaborated on it.

You thought wrong.


You did......and I accept.

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als a bad thig about them is that they have a tendancy to make noise when drawing back and spook animals which is not good!

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Rednecksteve, after all this, what did u ever decide on? the one that makes noise or the one that does'nt make noise?:D:D:D

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We know IN YOUR OPINION it's a non-issue. What we want to know is.....what makes YOUR opinion THE deciding factor on this subject???

My QAD has the same piece of moleskin I put on it over a year ago. If there had been a way to quiet my WB....I'd have done that. What do you do to make a WB as quiet as my QAD (Which is 100% silent)? What measures can be taken to quiet a WB?

Hell, Atlas....maybe I just hear better than you and your friends????

Proven??? Sothe deer you and your buddies take are somehow the control group for WB's? I took five this year....and I was up-close and personal on all but 1 (Inside 20 yds). I'd hate to think about what a WB would have done to my chances.

Anybody else shoot X-Weaves through theirs? If you don't....or haven't.....how can you honestly speak intelligently as to what kind of noise MINE made? You can't. Atlas....you ought to realize how stupid it makes you sound to keep doing so.