RE: Predator answer for Davidmil
 

Greg, since you brought up the Spring Green.......thats a sleeper IMO. I've had my set for at least 10 years or whenever Predator came out with it. Very good for Spring and I've worn it more than any other set of clothing in deer season, so much that I had to trash them. Heck the leaves don't fall off here until mid-November it seems.

RE: Predator answer for Davidmil
 

mobow, I know exactly what you mean by the "segmented" look... That's actually what I personally find appealing in these patterns... what I call the "older" Predator patterns (Fall Brown, Fall Gray and Spring Green).

Deception was a decided attempt to "soften" those edges like you were talking about, but in doing so -- I think -- they lost some of the contrast. I guess I prefer that segmented look because if you stare up at a tree or really just generally out into the woods, it's all made up of segmentations -- sharp lines and little segmented blocks of grayscale color (at least in the fall woods. It'd be segmented blocks of shades of other colors in the spring or summer...)

You can kind of see what I'm talking about by looking at this guy's surroundings... Sharp lines, with irregular patches of lighter and darker patches around. That's what I think makes his camo blend in with that surrounding so well.



See all those light-colored "segments" of sky behind the myriad of tree limbs out in front of the guy in the stand? There's definitely no soft edges... tree limbs, vines and trunks all have decidedly "sharp" edges by design, if that makes sense.

RE: Predator answer for Davidmil
 

Correct me if I ma wrong Greg, but I think BuckSuede gets stiff and noisy below freezing. I had a set this awhile back.

RE: Predator answer for Davidmil
 

Here ya go CM. This is taken just now on a cloudy day. 15' up.


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This stuff is hard to come by here in central IA and sportsmans is the only place we can get it. We were lucky to find this medium mens for her. It is way too big on her but she will make do; the stores don't carry anything for women hunters. Sportsmans has a small selection of predator here, a little bit of buckskin tops and bottoms, cotton poly tees, and bdu pants. Nothing in warm weather predator.I am impressed so much with this coat that I am going to get one for myself with a gift cert the inlaws gave me.

RE: Predator answer for Davidmil
 

Coug... You're right. I really like Spring Green as well, and was still wearing it when Matt got out here in early November. He was surprised to see me put it on the first day of our hunt. But, to your point, we still had a bunch of leaves on the trees then, and I was blending in with those -- not because I think the SG's colors matter to a deer (they all look the same when viewed in B&W), but because we were hunting public land and I like to hide from other humans and keep them from discovering my stand locations... I actually did have two hunters walk right under me that week, and I had to whistle at them to stop them from going upwind of me, but I think I was in FG by that time...


Germ... Yep. I wouldn't swear that bucksuede is layers of fabric with glue holding them together, but that's generally what makes a fabric want to stiffen up in the cold (the glue getting stiff and losing its elasticisity), but you're right -- it definitely gets stiffer the colder it gets. I've got a Fall Gray bucksuede jacket and a Spring Green bucksuede jacket, and use them more as windbreakers and to ward off slight drizzles...

RE: Predator answer for Davidmil
 

True, but there are so many of them they all run together, blurring out...

LOL.....How obvious it has become that Camo designs are designed to our liking.....You like the segmented look, I don't.....I prefer softer edges w/ contrast.....I think you can achieve good contrast by not having sharp edges as well...the change is just more ........abrupt.

At any rate, it's a good pattern, and it obviously works well. It's a good thing there are so many options in patterns available.......If there were only one, what would we do then??? [&:]:D I'm out....

RE: Predator answer for Davidmil
 

Maybe this bucksuede we have is a rarety in this coat. Come to think of it; I have seen their predator pants in buckskin at sportsmans and if I remember right they were a little heavier mil than this coat. This is a very lightweight unlined jacket.

RE: Predator answer for Davidmil
 

mobow... you're right; we've all got our own preferences. Nothing wrong with that a bit. :)

HCH... that's a good-looking jacket: kind of a mixture of what mobow and I were talking about... some hard edges, while others are softer. The thing that makes it look good to me isn't necessarily the "edges' but the fact that parts of it are really light-colored, while others are really dark-colored. That's what I mean when I refer to as contrast. The changes don't have to be abrupt, but there MUST be changes for it to be contrasting.

I think it's a t-shirt you've got on in your turkey-kill pic that looks good, too. Quality control must be getting better on that pattern, or either my local shop owner just got some bum patterns (to me) as an isolated event.

RE: Predator answer for Davidmil
 

I got that turkey/ deer shot camo pic you talk of at sportsman also this year.

RE: Predator answer for Davidmil
 

HCH your ? about price I would answer this way.

Not just the material causes things to be more expesive.With most clothes being made in China cost is way lower then made here or Canada. Cost on your jacketright around 20.00 dollars. Most of the clothes at Cabelas are marked up a ton from what cost is set. The reason I have so many outfits is because I used to get them at cost. Ibought the sameoutfit you bought hoytgirl in Bucksuede(had a different name) for 35.00 dollars pants and coat. I bought many outfits at pricethat were just unbelieveable.

THe quality isnot the same as garments made here or in Canada. My Dad just bought American made Harley, he could have got a Honda for about 4000 less.

I think you said it best when I was askingabouta blind. Buy it right once!! The bucksuedejacket will last a life time, mine is 6 years old now. Any outfit I have bought does not even come close to RavenWear I have. Ravenwearis extremely expensive, but it is custom made. Yes I have order a suit from Chuck, becasue I trust Rob 100% as I do you and Greg, and GregH any many others. I will have some predator very soon. As soon as I can find some in Wolfskin or a high quality fleece.

Germ