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Germ 12-27-2006 01:48 PM

Scoring Question?
 
How do you take the 4 Circumference measurements on a spike?

peakrut 12-27-2006 01:49 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 
hmmm :eek:

Germ 12-27-2006 01:55 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 
my guess is you can not correct?

I am writing the Buckcontest scoring system and need to know the rules for my logic, I just want to get it right.

KBacon 12-27-2006 01:58 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 
You take the measurement 1/2 way between the point and the pedicle... then use that same measurement for all 4.

IE.. say it 2" around.. for the left side... and 2 1/4 for the right side.. both1/2 way up the spike...

You would enter
Left H1 2"
Left H2 2"
Left H3 2"
Left H4 2"

Right H1 2 1/4"
Right H2 2 1/4"
Right H3 2 1/4"
Right H4 2 1/4"


Germ 12-27-2006 02:02 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 

ORIGINAL: KBacon

You take the measurement 1/2 way between the point and the pedicle... then use that same measurement for all 4.
ok does everyone agree, Rob?

MOTOWNHONKEY 12-27-2006 02:03 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 
It's not a matter of agreement thats how you do it.

rybohunter 12-27-2006 02:05 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 
I thought you took 4 evenly spaced measurements along the spike?

MOTOWNHONKEY 12-27-2006 02:06 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 
You thought like Amos and Andy, you thought cat crap was candy.

Germ 12-27-2006 02:07 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 

ORIGINAL: MOTOWNHONKEY

It's not a matter of agreement thats how you do it.
ok snippy one I was just checking, geez, LOL

I am putting is some logic that will check to make sure the scores are correct. Kbacon can I email you if I have other ?

thx Germ

GregH 12-27-2006 02:08 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 

ORIGINAL: rybohunter

I thought you took 4 evenly spaced measurements along the spike?
This is what I would have thought. But I'm not an official scorer. Those guys have a large rulle book for these kinds of questions.

Germ 12-27-2006 02:09 PM

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ORIGINAL: GregH


ORIGINAL: rybohunter

I thought you took 4 evenly spaced measurements along the spike?
This is what I would have thought. But I'm not an official scorer. Those guys have a large rulle book for these kinds of questions.
kbacon are you a scorer?

peakrut 12-27-2006 02:12 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 
If i am looking at the p&Y scoring sheet correctly its H1 on the sheet since only 1 point each side. States the following: Circumference at smallest place between burr and first point. First point being only point.
My point is, who knows

peakrut 12-27-2006 02:19 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 
vn profile pic btw

buckeye 12-27-2006 02:21 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 
I believe it is evenly spaced along the main beam as well...

PM Kcison he is an official measurer for the Boone & Crockett Club.

Germ 12-27-2006 02:21 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 

ORIGINAL: PEAKRUT

If i am looking at the p&Y scoring sheet correctly its H1 on the sheet since only 1 point each side. States the following: Circumference at smallest place between burr and first point. First point being only point.
My point is, who knows
I was thinking the same thing

Germ 12-27-2006 02:23 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 

ORIGINAL: buckeyebuckhntr

I believe it is evenly spaced along the main beam as well...

PM Kcison he is an official measurer for the Boone & Crockett Club.
Thx will do

KBacon 12-27-2006 02:27 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 
I am not a scorer.. but this is one question that I brought up to my scorer when he scored my deer for me last week. And that's exactly what he told me.

He told me that every deer gets 4 H scores for each side.. be it a spike, forky, 6 pointer, 7 pointer, or 8 pointer....

Germ 12-27-2006 02:28 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 

ORIGINAL: KBacon

I am not a scorer.. but this is one question that I brought up to my scorer when he scored my deer for me last week. And that's exactly what he told me.

He told me that every deer gets 4 H scores for each side.. be it a spike, forky, 6 pointer, 7 pointer, or 8 pointer....
Thx what did your deer score?

GregH 12-27-2006 02:29 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 

ORIGINAL: KBacon

I am not a scorer.. but this is one question that I brought up to my scorer when he scored my deer for me last week. And that's exactly what he told me.

He told me that every deer gets 4 H scores for each side.. be it a spike, forky, 6 pointer, 7 pointer, or 8 pointer....
This is true, but how you get those measurements is the question. Evenly spaced or 4x one measurement.

KBacon 12-27-2006 02:39 PM

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4 times one measurement 1/2 way down to spike..

And on a 7 pointer.. the H4 measurement would be taken 1/2 G2 to the tip of the main beam.

I scored my deer myself at 152 1/8" gross and 148 and 2/8" net... the official scorer got 152 3/8 gross and 148 2/8" net.. But mine was fairly easy and straight forward to score...



Germ 12-27-2006 02:40 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 
Nice Buck!!

KBacon 12-27-2006 02:41 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 

"All antlers have four circumference measurements taken on each main beam. Even a spike buck would have four circumference (in the case of a spike, the circumference would be taken halfway between the burr and the tip of the point). This measurement would be entered four times as H-1 through H-4."

This is directly out of my P&Y Official Measurer's Manual (Whitetail Deer section, page 45). Many here have given the correct answer, which is any/all antlered species will have four circumference measurements. Where you take these measurements depends on the antler configuration you're dealing with.


More info available in this thread on AT...

http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=423064&highlight=scoring


GregH 12-27-2006 02:54 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 
There you have it! I learned something new today. I too score all my bucks and compare to the scorers sheet. It's fun to compare, however, I've never tried to score a spike or a fork. Maybe a 6 pointer though. I believe that a couple of 6 pts have made P&Y. They must look awesome!

peakrut 12-27-2006 02:55 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 
you ever find any info on that 198 near you?

Germ 12-27-2006 02:55 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 

ORIGINAL: GregH

There you have it! I learned something new today. I too score all my bucks and compare to the scorers sheet. It's fun to compare, however, I've never tried to score a spike or a fork. Maybe a 6 pointer though. I believe that a couple of 6 pts have made P&Y. They must look awesome!
Let me get the picture of my buddies from Ohio 6, scored in the 140's

HuntinGUS 12-27-2006 02:57 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 
Hey GERM, why don't you just use the Raculator!:D

GregH 12-27-2006 02:57 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 

ORIGINAL: PEAKRUT

you ever find any info on that 198 near you?
No, I forgot. I'll ask tomorrow.

Germ 12-27-2006 03:06 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 

ORIGINAL: HuntinGUS

Hey GERM, why don't you just use the Raculator!:D
I can not, or I wouldlove to. Wait if we put a USB port on it I could download the score, you are very smart

KBacon 12-27-2006 03:19 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 

Nice Buck!!
Thanx man....

Here's a pic...
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...6/000_0313.jpg


There you have it! I learned something new today. I too score all my bucks and compare to the scorers sheet. It's fun to compare, however, I've never tried to score a spike or a fork. Maybe a 6 pointer though. I believe that a couple of 6 pts have made P&Y. They must look awesome!
Glad I could help.... I never would have thought that this would be the correct way to do it either. I learned quite a bit about scoring this year myself.




GregH 12-27-2006 03:38 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 
Maybe you could help with this. I got this buck on Christmas day. On the bucks right antler, which is the main beam?




MOTOWNHONKEY 12-27-2006 04:11 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 
I think your index finger is on the G2.

GregH 12-27-2006 04:16 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 

ORIGINAL: MOTOWNHONKEY

I think your index finger is on the G2.
So the g-2 has the 4" sticker point?

BigJ71 12-27-2006 04:20 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 
I think the main beam it the onerunning up to your shoulder. I would consider the long tine jutting outto be a kind of drop tine. It's clear that all of the points generate from the one beam, onlyit's like the G2 isupside down.

buckeye 12-27-2006 04:21 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 
I would believe that your index finger is on an abnormal point / double main beam.

I would think he is a 3X4 typical with a double main beam. JM2C....

GregH 12-27-2006 04:31 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 

ORIGINAL: buckeyebuckhntr

I would believe that your index finger is on an abnormal point / double main beam.

I would think he is a 3X4 typical with a double main beam. JM2C....
Now I'm really confused, do you mean 5x3 with an abnormal point?

Maybe some one could circle the main beam in paint?

buckeye 12-27-2006 04:49 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 

Now I'm really confused, do you mean 5x3 with an abnormal point?

Yes, I am an idiot :D5X3...... My bad!




GregH 12-27-2006 05:12 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 
Ok, Thanks.

MOTOWNHONKEY 12-27-2006 05:56 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 
I think what he has marked as G2 is the main beam. It looks like everything grows off of that to me from the pic.

buckeye 12-27-2006 06:49 PM

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BTW I have to add.... The barbells...... Bada$$.....I am nearly 27 years old and struggle to grow a stach without the bells :D;)

_Dan 12-27-2006 08:05 PM

RE: Scoring Question?
 

ORIGINAL: MOTOWNHONKEY

I think what he has marked as G2 is the main beam. It looks like everything grows off of that to me from the pic.
I gotta agree with that.


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