Weird deer
 

Doing some management on one of our properties, I decided to take this doe this morning. Well, I thought it was a doe!

Icheckedthe head with binoculars many times before I decided to shootand did not see any sign of buttons or dark spots on the head. Two deer were around me for about two hours and at one time bedded about 40-50 yards from my tree.

I got down from my stand when they finally walked off; but, they circled around me as I was packing my equipment. I grabbed my bow and stalked about 40 yards to a point where I could get a clear shot. The arrow hit it's mark and the deer only went about 50 yards.

Now to thesubject at hand. I pulled the deer's leg up only to find a penis and no testicles. I rubbed the head and it had absolutely no sign of buttons - not even a bump. Surprised? You bet!

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A cross dresser perhaps??? [8D] Weird. Very, very weird.

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haha I would of died of suprise[:'(]

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haha thats crazy...poor deer though, must of been so confused..

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WTF Man? What a kill, you mounting it, haha...full body? That's really weird.

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Like I told Len this morning... just a Gay little bugger is all.[&:] Can you imagine how confused he'd/she'd be during the rut. "I'm on top, no you're on top".[8D]

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Well, someone has got to ask.

Got any pics?

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that's pretty crazy len. Isn't that what causes mule deer "stags" as well?

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His girlfriend must have caught him cheating

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Pics, Pics, Pics!

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Sounds like you got one of those he/she , lady boy ,transviestites.
Good thing you got it out of the gene pool , it is weird a doe with a addadictome.

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Wow, you're hunting in California :):)

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Sorry, we don't do pictures. Davidmil and I decided a long time ago not to do pictures of deer anymore on these forums.:([:@][:o]

I showed it to my son last night and he was torn between shock and laughter. He rubbed the head all over and couldn't find any indication of buttons. Plus, when he checked the private parts, some things were missing there.

WEIRD...

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That is very odd, although I have heard of it before, it surely isn't too common.

If you don't mind me asking, why won't you post any pictures on the forum?

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that is deffinetly weird.

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did it have a vagina?

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Darn Transtesticles!!!!!!!!

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Coulda just been married. I hear this happens to a lot of dudes.

Jeff

I'm just sayin.....

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I was told by someone very knowledgeable today that the testicles may take some time to drop. If that were the case with this deer, I would have found them inside when I gutted it. There was no sign of them.

This person also told me that buttons show up on unborn males in the womb. This animal was way beyond spots and again had a very'slick' head.

Davidmil and I don't show any more pictures due to the 'ethics police.' We published a questionable picture a while back and some made a 'federal case' out of it.

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Go ahead Len, tell them how many deer you killed with the bow the last 3 years. They won't believe it, but tell 'em.:D It has to be close to45 I know. About 3 years ago when we got to a dozen or so pictures people started finding fault with our shot selection. GO figure. We had some truly great deer anatomy arrow penetration autopsy shots. I think this was the LAST picture we posted and people started finding fault with our choice of animals, shooting 3 before finding the first etc etc. Len shot 3 this day(all legal)within about 20 seconds, but the ethics police had a problem with it. Two dropped within site, but the ethics police had a problem with it. We don't post pictures anymore. In fact, we don't give much advice either. I'm the photographer for this. I was on my way back from a successful hunt in NY when Len called for help. Go figure, he had a doe and two bucks down and needed help. Wimp.[8D] I was within 30 minutes when he called, but the ethics police had a problem with it. Mostly people with a handful or no kills at most. We don't give advice anymore.[8D] We don't know what we're doing.;) We're lucky.:D Meet the Predator folks.[8D] And the first thing someone said was tuck in the tongue. LOL Thefirst deer went off a cliff and ended up almost 400 yards away, that's why she's not in the picture. She died within yards of a road in a creek.

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Add his muzzleloader and shotgun kills, the boy is a meat grinder folks, and people find fault with his shot selection.Go figure. This year he hasn't been doing much gun hunting, but the past two years he's tagged a bunch.

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Honestly I think that is the first and only picture I've ever seen of LEN....I don't remember any of those criticisms but oh well, you have every right to post or not to post pictures.

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You and me both......I wouldn't have shot that far back though...:D:D:D

Just teasin......honestly.

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Well you must have been away. We posted every picture for a while. We were whacking and stacking does, bucks, whatever and the ethics police found fault with something.... ALWAYS.THis was back in the days of Zones in Md. We had people even questioning the legality of our kills. You know we killed a ton of deer, but people found fault with it. A hunting site no less. I believe this picture was mid October the year before last. I had been to NY for some bowhunting during muzzleloader week there. Back before the ethics police I posted pictures of Len's kid's first deer when he was 11. He now has probably a dozen bow kills at 15. I posted pictures of his kids first turkey that I called in for him. I posted pictures of guest we had from FLorida and Pennsylavania to our grounds with their kills. Here are a couple. What I'm getting at here is that the ethics police and self appointed experts have chased away a lot of valuable experience and knowledge on this site. Little cliques have formed and decided who's in and who's out and the site has suffered for it, especially in the technical section. The sad thing is, they may know it but don't care because they have their platform to seem important.

A successful guest with Lenand his son. I'm the photographer.

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Len's boys first turkey.

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And the last two replies prove my point. You're not paying attention to anything but what you're saying evidently. As far as the remark about shooting that far back, typical. These two buck dropped and died 75 yards from the stand within feet of each other. You would rather point out a perceived flaw in a perfect shot than learn anything. You'd rather tell a newbie how great he is and how vast his knowledge, because he's a groupie. That's fine, but this site suffers for that type of action perpetuated by moderators even. "I'm in power and I say what's valid". That's why we don't post pictures or give details, because the "experts" simply don't give a darn and will belittle you if you try.

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Hey Dave,

I know what you mean, I only drop by here very now and then for those same reasons.

Oh and I like the pictures. ;)

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ONe more... guttin

Father and Son guest from Florida





Macho Doe

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You must be mistaken Mike, it's only me, the crotchetty one that's behind the times and out of step with hunting. After all I've been told I'm off my meds twice today. It's only me Mike. You should visit and learn from this vast pool of super knowledge. [&:]

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My buddy in NY. I know, it's a bad picture. Get him off the 4 wheeler yada yada yada. No one want to learn from the hunt, they want to beesch about the photography.

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My nephew in NY. But no one cares about the hunt or story. They wan to critique the photo or the shot selection. I know one member that shot a great bear last year but choose not to play the game of finger pointing here. I know of many kills that go unreported as they just don't want to deal with the bull crap here. If you think I'm wrong, you prove my point. I have 2 GB of photos on my laptop. A whole lot of hunting that could have been shared if it weren't for the site sponsored ethics police.

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The crowning blow that ended our picture posting was a mechanical test that ended with a dead deer within site of myself and Len. The arrow passed through and opened on an ear. Did anyone want to hear the where fores and whys. NOPE, they immediately jumped on the bandwagon of poor shot selection yada yada yada on a deer that lost both lungs and died within 50 yards. Len test all sorts of broadheads. His quiver usually has 3 or 4 different varieties in it.Does anyone want to hear the real field results, nope, they want to critique shot selection and not dead deer. They prefer to expound on all they've learned about hunting in the past couple years. Am I bitter. NOPE, I find it quite stupid really. There is so much knowledge lost by thinking ME, Myself and I. Thump my chest and call me great white hunter. There's always someone that makes you a rookie, no matter who you are, but he's not on this site.

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Geez, I remember those posts that you are referring to and the responses that you got. I do remember feeling pretty jealous that you guys have such a sweet place to hunt but I never doubted your ablility, legality, or the appropriateness of the photos.

You can't let the small minds, oversize egos, get to you. I know it's easier said than done but I figure the internet is a lot like life. Out of the manyhundreds of people that I am aquainted with there are only maybe half a dozen who's opinions I really care about. I know that I don't BS (unless I let you know it :D) and my friends know I don't BS. If the masses have a different opinion it just proves the old adage "the masses are a$$es".

BTW...Thanks for the pics.

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Dave:

Actually my son (now 15) has shotabout 20 deer with a bow. So far this year he's shot 5 with a bow. His first4 times out resulted in 4 successes, then reality hit him when he came away empty a few times.:D

One day I shot 5, but limit myself anymore to 2. Gutting dragging, processing and finding homes for more than 2 a day is just too tough at my age. What many don't understand is the number of deer we can take here in Maryland. There are even locals who don't understand why I shoot so many. There are many reasons. First, we can do it legally and ethically. Then there are needy families that I supply with meat. The property owners let me hunt because they want the deer numbers reduced. Deer management is another reason.

In fact, I've taken out 2 bucks lately that needed culling. One had a horrific rack and was 5-6 years old. The other was a spike that was 8 years old. Then, of course, was this "Weird deer" that I just took out of the gene pool. This was not intentionaldeer managementbut the results were good. On the one property that I hunt (20 acres surrounded by State Park) there are several more old spikes and a few piebalds that we want to cull.

Thank you, Dave, for helping to explain the problem we have with sharing pictures and information. It is a shame we have to limit our communication/expertise/test results. A lot of people could really benefit from the information we collect.

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What the hell you whining about now? Not a single person belittled any of these photos and mobowhuntr was making a jest, something you obviously didn't get. I think your just one of those guys that like to think he's being picked on so it gives you an identity. Oh look at me, the nonmod, the man's pushing me down, I don't give advice anymore because no one listens, I'm on the top of the list, the mods have the power, "experts"....get over yourself. Why do you come here at all then?

LEN, Great Photos, great hunts, great advice, Keep up the fantastic work and don't ever go away, your respected, your looked to and appreciated.

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Did it look like this

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Couldnt have said it better! Thanks Rob

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Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black. You sound like a big cry baby, the kid on the playground that looks for an excuse to grab all his toys and run home crying for attention. As a matter of fact you like doing it so much that you are doing it for someone else so you can get more attention. Grow up.

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Well said!!! David, you seem to like to be the ethics police yourselfand enjoy putting other people down, what goes around comes around you old crotchety one. Here you are running your mouth about Hoytgirl when she got picked for Hoyts' photo of the week.
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1690846&mpage=3&key==

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BTW Len, I had a miniature pincher once that got injured somehow; we don't know how. It's testicles actually went up into its body. Maybe squeezed by a car tire, kicked by someone, injured by another animal?? We let it out on its' dog run and 20 minutes later it was hurt. Maybe this deer had a sharp kick in the groin by another deer, jumped a fence wrong. who knows? BTW, nice pics.