All I can say is WOW!!!! I don't know what else to say becuase I see it two ways.

1st - I don't think it is as bad as Davidmil makes it sound. There is more bashing than congratulating at times, but I think a lot of times it's teasing taken seriously.

2nd - I do now what Davidmil is talking about. You have to be so carefull about what you post, in fear that someone will rip you apart. Or if your not part of a click, then you aren't as great of a hunter as he is. Despite that person bowhunting only one year, being in the click makes him a superior bowhunter and allows him/her to have an extremely big ego it makes you sick.

What it comes down to everyone would have to budge to make this site what it used to be. What is comes down to is I bet Len and Davidmil have more bowkills than 95% of the people here and it IS knowledge wasted regardless how you fell about them. I will neverNOT listen to someone who has killed a lot of deer. Hell,evenif someone withfewer bowkills thanme killsa deer, I will listen to what he has to say about the hunt, if the deer was called in, chasing doe in Early October, food plots, time they were moving. I might only choose to believe half of it, butI will always listen.

My father-in-law is and outstanding hunter, with many of tropheys. I look up to him in many ways. Not just because of his trophey bucks, but for many other reasons. I once told me to listen to every bit of detail from other hunter, keep picking more and more info out of the guy, the more info you gather, the better hunter you will be,believe what you want.He is also the one who told menot to be afraid to shoot doe.He said you can't get any better practice than that. Aslong as you do it legally, and youcan utilize the meat, go ahead.He saidthere is too many people whocan shoot outstanding scores in 3D leages/tournaments, but can't make a killing shot on a deer at 25 yards...sad thing is this istrue.

Davidmil,

Wow man. How old are you. I have never formed any aliance or clicks with anyone on this site, but I agree with some of them in your case. Your a grown ass man that is whining for attention like a 15 year old kid. There are alot of people in this country that kill alot of deer....ok. As many as you and your buddy there. If you want to post pictures....post them. If you don't get the response that you like then stop. It's that simple. Coming on this site and stating that you kill alot of deer and you don't get the respect you diserve kinda crazy. Why do you need this recongnition from the people????? If you know you do a good job isn't that good enough, or are you one of those guys that needs people to tell you that over and over. Come on man, keep posting your pictures and telling your stories because some people learn from them. Try not to ket your undies all in bunches over the people that critisize, your always going to run into this. Good luck hunting........but just coolit a little.

Enough is enough. This could go on as it did years ago.[:@]

Let me start by saying that Dave may have 'over-reacted' to a comment; but, you'd have to know the history to understand the reaction. Just as you have seen in a short time how many jumped on the bandwagon to bash Dave, this was tenfold+years ago over the pictures we posted. It was a horrible scene which went on for a long time.

It reminds me of a scene I witnessed a long time ago where people kept jumping on the pilemad atone human being on the bottom. The result was an badlyinjured person on the bottom. If you were on the bottom of that pile, wouldn't you be 'gun shy' for a long time??? I know that's what Dave feels. He was on the bottom of the pile.

I'm now sorry that I even made the comment about why we don't post pictures anymore. I'm also sorry this happened because I was starting to enjoy sharing information with fellow posters/forum members. I'mdisturbed thata 'thin-skinned' response by one individual has caused such a ruckus.[:@]

good god. i get my panties all untangled for a couple weeks and y'all all got your panties all wadded up now. go on now, get em untangled and lets move on.

LEN, David owes you an apology. He took your very interesting thread and turned into a site/mod/member bashing opportunity.

Your photos are wonderful and I don't ever remember those other days. The pictures are also irrelevant to your topic of the thread however the photos could still be very enjoyable without the agenda that was tied to them. You are obivously very respected and rightly so. I agree, enough is enough and I apologize for being pulled into the web of offtopicness (is that a word?).

So, LEN,

You say this deer had a penis, no testicles and absolutely no "bumps" pedicles that you could feel? That is very interesting and something I've never come across myself. Have you been able to find any other similiar information?

Hell I'v ebeen hunting a little over a year......and I've never seen anything like this.

Im calling bull#^&! Where are we eatin lunch, clique???

Jeff

I've seen does with antlers....and grown men and women kissin (just not each other).....so I guess nature's just funny, sometimes. I'm wondering if.....during the rut....he chases his own tail, like a dog.

Len:

I'd love to see ALL of your hunting photos. Respect.

Jeff

A comment on the 4 wheeler picture:

I'm glad you reposted that picture because Ihaven't thought about tucking the deers back legs in for transport like that. Learned something new today.

Len your a machine!!!

Nice pics!! and Deer

As for the deer my guess he was late birth, and just was not ready yet. My guess is his mom got shot, I wonder whot shot her[8D]

I remember the post from some years back , it was about hypershock broadheads ,Ill leave it at that ,

The reason I remember is I could not believe the beating Dave , and Len got back then , kind of like the ridiculous banter in this thread . This is a hunting thread , where archers are suposed to help other archers , and share stories , Man it would be nice if some would not be so judgemental .

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I remember the post from some years back , it was about hypershock broadheads ,Ill leave it at that ,

The reason I remember is I could not believe the beating Dave , and Len got back then , kind of like the ridiculous banter in this thread . This is a hunting thread , where archers are suposed to help other archers , and share stories , Man it would be nice if some would not be so judgemental .
[/blockquote]Some people need totype on here like they talk to each other face to face. There are afew tough guy, arsehole, rude people on here that hide behind their unknown locationon theirsafe little keyboard and feel like they can say anything about anybody they want. It is a small world and one should think about what one says as it might come back to bite one in the arse someday. No one in particular and for the most part we are all here to bull$%^& about bowhunting and to learn.