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Gardening practices??
I live in Mchenry Il. On the property I hunt on there are florecent green fruit balls. They're the size of soft balls. I belive they are called Osage_Orange fruits. The deer are eating these Hardcore. My question is would it be considered baiting if i kick them into a pile?? I'm not bringing them out there they're already on the ground.
or canI unburry them from the snow?? Don't want to bait them just utalize the natural fruit??  Any one else see these things?? whitetailsoldier titleAndStar(111,0,false,false,"","") Rack Buck  [align=center]  [/align]Posts: 111 Joined: 11/15/2006 Status: online  This is verbatum from Illinois 2005-2006 DNR Information It is unlawful to make available food,salt,mineral blocks or other products for ingestion by wild deer or other wildlife in areas where wild deer are present.EXEPT, Grain or other feed distributed or scattered solely as a result of normal agriculture, Gardening, or soil stabalization practices. [hr] HOW DO YOU INTERPRET THAT????? _____________________________ Mathews z-max beman 350 arrows muzzy g5 season06'-07'B.B.D Seasoned Soldier of the war on CWD |
RE: What are those Big green Balls??
Looks like a horse apple to me. They grow on Bois De Arc trees. The deer will eat them but not their favorite.
Hell, if they are already there I'd say kick em all out of the snow and enjoy hunting them. |
RE: What are those Big green Balls??
Yep, Osage Orange, but we used to call the hedge apples when I was a kid.
I think your question is sort of tricky. If I were you, i'd call the local DNR office and ask them. To me baiting would mean you brought something in with you and put it in a specific pile. I would think that you can surely unburry them from the snow with no problem, but it's the putting them in a pile that may seem like baiting. Tricky. |
RE: What are those Big green Balls??
I believe it is not baiting if it is already naturally there . You can cut down branches and other stuff in a pile in my area
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RE: What are those Big green Balls??
Any conservationists in the house??
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RE: What are those Big green Balls??
They are called hedgeapples, people put them around the inside of their houses and believe that they will keep out bugs and mice. Old wives's tale but grocery stores around here sell them for 50 cents apiece.
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RE: What are those Big green Balls??
the wood also makes excellant bows
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Actually even if you dont place the food there purposley, and are caught hunting over it, you can be fined. A local Wisconsin farmer was harvesting corn and lost a substantial amount of shelledcorn out of the gravity box and wasfined for baiting over the legal limit. He tried to fight this fine andlost. And the corn was still in his field and he was not hunting at the time.
ORIGINAL: NavyDeerHunter Yep, Osage Orange, but we used to call the hedge apples when I was a kid. I think your question is sort of tricky. If I were you, i'd call the local DNR office and ask them. To me baiting would mean you brought something in with you and put it in a specific pile. I would think that you can surely unburry them from the snow with no problem, but it's the putting them in a pile that may seem like baiting. Tricky. |
RE: What are those Big green Balls??
We have a lot of them here. We call them hedgeapples, too. The only thing I've seen that likes to eat them are squirrels.I've never seen deer eat them. If deer are eating them, I would say the deer are having a hard time finding anything to eat.
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RE: What are those Big green Balls??
Round here people call em monkey balls, and stick em in thier house to keep spiders away. Yea and you thought PApeople were only goofy when it came to hunting laws/traditions[8D]
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RE: What are those Big green Balls??
ORIGINAL: JimPic the wood also makes excellant bows Orange Osage/HeadApples. |
RE: What are those Big green Balls??
Yup, osage orange... a.k.a. Hedgeapples. There was a bumper crop in Ohio where I hunted this year. I had a stand right near several of these trees. Everytime one of those things fell and hit the ground it sounded like a sack of potatoes. Had my head twirlling like a bobblehead doll.
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RE: What are those Big green Balls??
Around here deer eat them even when there is plenty of other food available; corn, beans, acorns everywhere and they will still eat the hedge apples.
ORIGINAL: isatarak We have a lot of them here. We call them hedgeapples, too. The only thing I've seen that likes to eat them are squirrels.I've never seen deer eat them. If deer are eating them, I would say the deer are having a hard time finding anything to eat. |
RE: What are those Big green Balls??
Ive never seen deer eat them, just squirrels. I dont think it would be considered baiting them if the deer are eating them. It would be baiting if you are moving them from their original spot.
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RE: What are those Big green Balls??
What ifI gathered them there before the season
"yard maintainence" Style. And does anyone know how far away you have to be from "BAIT" in IL. Is there an exact distance? |
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ORIGINAL: whitetailsoldier What ifI gathered them there before the season "yard maintainence" Style. And does anyone know how far away you have to be from "BAIT" in IL. Is there an exact distance? |
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hey yeah we call them monkey balls or osage trees up here in western pa i put some under my stand the other day didnt see deer eating him but i do see them munched up. Ill check on them tonight to see if anyhting ate them,
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RE: What are those Big green Balls??
Not baiting, same priciple, but by law not baiting. Why kick them in a pile, you want them spread out so they have to look around for them. They know where the tree is, they can smell them. No need in a presentation, they know what they are doing.;)
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They usually don't eat them a lot and then usually real later in the year. They're dang sticky if you handle them or bust one open.
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It is illegal to feed a deer anything in Illinois. Even if you are not ahunter and just like to feed animals. You are still not allowed to feed them.
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RE: What are those Big green Balls??
I'm not feeding them, the trees are! Second of all I know how to utalize the conditions here. About two weeks ago we got 18" of snow. It got really cold really fast. And yeah they always eat them but more so when food is scarce.
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RE: What are those Big green Balls??
JimPic your right there, they do make excellent bows. I work with a guy that makes his own out of Osage and he also kills deer with it.
And around here we call em hedge apples. Dan ORIGINAL: JimPic the wood also makes excellant bows |
RE: What are those Big green Balls??
ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily Not baiting, same priciple, but by law not baiting. Why kick them in a pile, you want them spread out so they have to look around for them. They know where the tree is, they can smell them. No need in a presentation, they know what they are doing.;) I agree, don't pile them up, you'lljust be spreading YOUR scent around. Plus by manipulating them into a pile and hunting over it MAY be considered baiting. Don't mess around in Illinois!! |
RE: What are those Big green Balls??
ORIGINAL: bloodcreek JimPic your right there, they do make excellent bows. I work with a guy that makes his own out of Osage and he also kills deer with it. And around here we call em hedge apples. Dan ORIGINAL: JimPic the wood also makes excellant bows |
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Tell you what. Im off work till thursday night and then go in on the grave yard shift. The guy i know works days right now and i will not see him for around two weeks. If you dont get your answer here i will ask him some ??? for you. and get back to you.;)
Dan ORIGINAL: IL_BOW_MAN ORIGINAL: bloodcreek JimPic your right there, they do make excellent bows. I work with a guy that makes his own out of Osage and he also kills deer with it. And around here we call em hedge apples. Dan ORIGINAL: JimPic the wood also makes excellant bows |
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Don't hunt under that tree without a hardhat..........I would say if it's placed there by you it's considered baiting.
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well baiting or not I'll figure it out.
That would be pretty cool to make my own bow! |
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I actually have a stand in a hedge apple tree. Once I shot at a doe and shot right under her. She just jumped a little and then went on about her business. I nocked another arrow and shot her. I'm convinced she thought the arrow hitting the ground under her was a hedge apple falling.
Originally, they were planted in this area for shelter belts and used for fence posts. If you find a hedge post still in the ground, it could be 100 years old and the part under the ground will be yellow on the inside. They get so hard you can't drive a nail in them. You have to use wire to attach the barbed wire to the post. |
RE: What are those Big green Balls??
Its not baiting it would be the same thing as you hunting out of an acorn tree.
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Or an oak tree that produced acorns. :D
just a jab...don't take it personally. ORIGINAL: cowboy4513 Its not baiting it would be the same thing as you hunting out of an acorn tree. |
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What kind of oak produces the best acorns for feeding of deer.
I know we have alot of oaks but rarely acorns. Is there a specific oak?? |
RE: What are those Big green Balls??
I was told by an IDNRCPO that anything edible'placed' by a hunter was baiting. So if you're moving a hedge apple, you're placing it andyou're technically baiting.
From stories I've heard, the DNR punishes baiting very harshly. (loss of hunting privleges, confiscation of stands, bows, guns and vehicles) |
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so if I didn't touch it i could still hunt it.
so If you plant turnips can you pull them out of the ground and hunt them. What is the difference between a food plot and baiting. In this case they're both natural????? |
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If it's already there you should be good.
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ORIGINAL: whitetailsoldier What kind of oak produces the best acorns for feeding of deer. I know we have alot of oaks but rarely acorns. Is there a specific oak?? |
RE: What are those Big green Balls??
This is verbatum from Illinois 2005-2006 DNR Information
It is unlawful to make available food,salt,mineral blocks or other products for ingestion by wild deer or other wildlife in areas where wild deer are present.EXEPT, Grain or other feed distributed or scattered solely as a result of normal agriculture, Gardening, or soil stabalization practices. [hr] HOW DO YOU INTERPRET THAT????? |
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Deer seem to prefer white oaks ( a group of oaks that tend to have round lobed leaves) but these often only produce acorns bi-annually. Red oaks (pointy leaves) tend to produce more annually. Depends on which area you live in as to what type of oaks are available. There's also beechnuts, chinqapins, chestnuts, persimmons, apples, locust pods and many other mast crops. |
RE: What are those Big green Balls??
ORIGINAL: bloodcreek JimPic your right there, they do make excellent bows. I work with a guy that makes his own out of Osage and he also kills deer with it. And around here we call em hedge apples. Dan ORIGINAL: JimPic the wood also makes excellant bows |
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