Local news puts carbon clothing to the test!
 

My local news here in Minnesota conducted this test on scent lok and scent blocker clothing. In my opinion tells me exactly what I already expected. You can watch it here.


http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=1442309&version=1&locale= EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.1.1

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It was interesting.

I do believe that you need to take the dog test with a grain of salt. As was mentioned by the Scent-Lok reps or whomever, the dogs are trained to pick up the lisghtest odors and react to them, deer by nature won't react to minute traces of human odor, but rather to large amounts introduced into their home in a short period of time.

One more thing to argue about, I suppose.

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The dogs are trained to seek the scent. They were getting literally 2 feet away from the person. This test might as well be thrown out the window. Because when talking about a dog, not even the best hunter in the world could hide from them. They would eventually find you or the tree you were in. That is what they are trained to do.

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It was interesting but I wonder about the experimental conditions. Did this lady use total scent control? Did she wash her hair in scent-free shampoo? Did she shower with scent-free soap? Did she smoke a cigarrette on the way to work this morning? Does she have scent free deodorant? Was she wearing perfume? Did she brush with baking soda? Were those rubber boots brand new?

The only way to truly test the effect of the clothing is to make sure that all the other "noise" variables like these are eliminated.

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Awesome video!!! Thanks for sharing. My thoughts are the same as they had been before; theproduct is unable to perform as advertised.The dogs were able to smell the human scent out of the little holes in the wood box. I would assume that she used scentproof soaps and sprays. It showed her spray her boots.I am sure that others will see this video(mainly ones that have blown their money on the products) and say that it works and the test was rigged. The debate continues.

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What a shock.


:eek:

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She put all that camo on over her regular clothes, that she had probably hosed down with perfume. Not to mention she probably had a fat sack of grass in her pocket.

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We should see if they would test out baking soda for us too:D

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Tribal....veeeerrrryy interesting...gzg38b is rite...too many unknowns.. therefore results are inconclusive, arbitrary, and capricious

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its supposed to block scent under the suit so it shouldnt matter whats under there. i didnt watch the video all i had to do was watch hunting shows. every day theres at least one guy wearing scent blocker or whatever other brand that gets totally busted. the last one i saw was one of the drury guys he wore the boots mask suit and got busted anyway. save the money and just stay as scent free as possible with detergents and soaps and sprays just as affective in my opinion. i havent been busted in at leasy 5 years maybe more and ive had plenty of deer downwind just gotta be careful with your clothing.

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No surprise - dogs detect humans by their shed skin cells. I believe deer do the same. Suits will do nothing to block the skin cells you shed. See my post: http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1650095&mpage=1&key=&#165009 5

-fsh

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Maybe I'm just a stupid Hillbilly.....but try this once. Fart in a scent blocker suit and see what happens. If I can't stand it, I bet the deer can't either.:D


GH

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If it won't hide you from a dog it can't hide you from a deer either . It doesn't matter that the dogs were specifically trained to locate human scent , they found it and that's all that mattered . In the field a deer that associates human odor with danger will flee the split second he detects it , no different than the dog that's trained to find it , you're still busted .

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I have always known that these suits couldn't be reactivated in a household dryer like the company claims. Did you see how little carbon is actually inside the suit where they had torn it open? That little bit of carbon couldn't soak up a mosquito's fart. I have reformed my opinion of this clothing as unable to perform as advertised to being a total scam and a waste of $.

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I think she forgot her lucky rock:)

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I'm just surprised they've been able to keep the price so high on the stuff and still sell it.

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Define "work". No it doesn't totally eliminate the scent that is misleading. It does help to reduce it considerably. Even the Drury boys who wear their endorsed brand often say that they won't hunt a particular stand cuz the wind is wrong. By minimizing the scent it makes it seem like the human is farther away or was there a while ago. It gives you an edge. Heck if the wind is just right you can go out aftyer 3 days with no shower and having just eaten a limburger liverwurst and onion sandwich and kill a deer!

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Dr Andy, The ad says," Forget the wind, just hunt." Is this false advertising.

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Thats not false advertising; just bad advice.

If it said "This suit completely eliminates 100% of human odor," that would be false advertising.

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You're right about that! but the same fa;se advertising exists for all products, toothpaste cars and diet gimmicks. The truth isn't in absolutes but in using common sense. The right car won't nessesarily get you the girl(it might help if all you have is a bicycle) That toothpaste won't do much for your smile if you smoke and drink coffee and tea,and every diet pill out there says to be used with a sensible diet and exersize plan. I once saw a product called "exersize in a bottle". All I'm saying the stuff helps but it isn't 100%. I never expected it to be.

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To be false advertising, they would have to make a promise that they couldn't fulfill.

To say "Forget the wind, just hunt" is just a simple statement that could be given to someone by anyone and means nothing.

The scent suits are a unique product. There is no way they can claim that they completely eliminate scent. On the other hand, there is no way anybody can prove without a doubt that they don't work at all. It's up to each of us to decide. People who believe it works, truly believe it, they are happy with it so good for them. People who don't believe it have the freedom to not buy it. I have some I have picked up along the way that I bought on sale. I don't use it all the time and I don't know if it really helps or not. I kill good deer with and without it. It is still good hunting clothing so I will wear it and get use from it.

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Here's what I've found out from personal experience:

1: Carbon clothing helpds a little, but isn't worth the money

2: The only real way to get past a deer's nose is wash your clothes in scent free detergent. Take them straight from the drier to the plastic bags. Those clothes can't get any air in the bag. The only thing your clothes should touch is either plastic or leaves. Don't ever open that bag unless you're in the field away from your truck (due to exhaust).

3: Before the hunt get up early and shower. Use all your scent free detergent and soap. Wear clothes that you washed in your scent free detergent to wear in the truck. Then when you get to the woods, exchange those clothes with the ones in the bags.

Here's a few other things that I've found that actually help as well. If you chew, do it on stand. It helps mask your breath. Seriously. It actually helps. I chew apple skoal and i've found it helps. Those deer won't react to that smell because it's not exactly a foreign smell. It helps a little but still not completely effective.

You still MUST watch the wind. It's not a choice. You have to sit in stands that you're not going to get busted in. IF you're in a spot where deer come from every direction HUNT HIGH. Get 30 feet up that tree or you'll get busted.

If you really want to get away with it, you have to be completely anal about scent control. My brother has been using this technique for the past 4 years and hasn't gotten busted yet. Works for us and is the only thing i've ever seen, or system, that actually works. Give it a try and happy hunting.

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I agree, well put.

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All clothing on your body, whether carbon or not ,helps to hide your body odor. I dress in many thin layers when possible so that there are several layers for the odor to have to go through. The point to be made is that the carbon can't be reactivated in the dryer, the clothing has very little carbon sprinkles in it, and the dogs found a person in a tight wooden box with only a small airhole in it. Not to mention they throw a huge price tag on it because it has a light sprinkling of carbon in it. There are carbon sprays like carbon blast that can be sprayed on your clothes if you think carbon is the answer for a fraction of the cost of these clothes. At least a spray like carbon blast is active once applied.

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oh I agree carbon can't be reactivated in the dryer. Carbon has to be heated to something like 1200 degrees to be reactivated.

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Have you all smelled the scent free soaps? They smell like something to me. If I can smell it what will the deer do?

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I dont pay the money for scent loc. I can make my own in my lab for a fraction of the price. I impregnate my own clothes with activated carbon. It will not eliminate human odor, but I like the idea of reducing as much as possible. Besides, most our odor comes from our mouth.

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yeah I've smelled scent free soaps, and I know what you're saying, there is some sort of odor. The thing is I've used it with consecutive results. I don't know what that smell is, but the deer don't mind it, I will tell you that. I've used the plan that i talked about earlier and it's never failed me yet. Try it and find out for yourself, you won't be disappointed.

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Bow tech
I have the same regimine except the chew thing. Dont know about chew, but ive seen snuff spook deer. Ive seen deer wind a spot where a snuf dipper spit, and ran the deer off. I have buddies that dip and they see far less deer than I when they hunt. It has got to the point they do not dip on stand, and rinse their mouths out real good with backing soada and water before hitting the field.


Chew might be different, but I wouldnt trust it. I guess it also depends on what part of the country you live in. If the deer smell natural tobacoo, it might make a difference. Not much of it growing here in Texas.;)

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I was my clothes in baking soda and I have used the Scent away soap. After washing my clothes they go into my plastic container where I cut small pieces of grass and trees from the area I hunt and place in there with one of those smelly dirt discs. This method works for me. I had 8 deer and 4 coyotes downwind of me yesterday.

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I agree on all counts with bowtech die hard. I also use that Gum-o-Flage product, which is probably a completescam, but at least it tastes good. I also use a product called Certain-Dri, which is a prescription-strength deodorant that literally closes the pores in your armpits. This stuff works great.

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High 5 atlas and hardcore.

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very cool. I know the dogs are trained to pick out scents, but a deer has something on the dogs, survival. A dog don't have to worry about that but a deer has to. So as soon as they smell something wrong they are gone. I just play the wind and save my money.

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I do think the test is somewhat flawed since they are using dogs trained to find scent but the lady was in a box. I don't know of many guys that bow hunt out of a box.

I'm not sure about the amount of carbon that they showed in the video. Something looked wrong. I know when I've washed my scent blocker clothing that the washing machine was almost completely black after the first wash and diminished from then on. So I at least know mine had more carbon in it than what was shown on the video. But then again I don't care how much carbon they put in the clothes, it doesn't work. You can't seal out the escape routes of air, around the neck, sleeves, torso, ankles etc...

This is just one more supporting peice of evidence that this crap doesn't work!

I think the science spells it out completely enough for me.

Tom

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Now, burnie... You know that's not right. Here's what it is. Deer down here have learned to associate the smell of "chewin' tubacky" with rednecks, andthey all know what rednecks do when it's huntin' season.[8D]

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I agree, somewhat. But the dogs knew to check the boxes. I bet if they had put the woman in a tree stand in the middle of the forest it would have taken the dogs a little bit longer.

I am not saying the stuff blocks scent 100% because nothing can. But if it makes people feel better or enjoy their hunt more, or they think they see more deer while wearing it. Then so be it. I say we all just let people do what they want to. Encourage those who like it to use it and kill a big one. And encourage those who don't like, to not use it, and kill a big one. Most hunters havea goal, so therefore I hope each of youreach your goal. Carbon suit or not.

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What I find amazing is how Scent-Lok has been attacked on HNI. Hey if you do not like it, then do not buy it.

If some of you put the same tenacity in fighting the ARA as you doat trying to discreditour HUNTING companies. The ARA would not stand a chance, or if we could just getsome of ustovote would be a great start.

Let us not forget
Scent-Lok is a company of Hunters
Owned by Hunters
Who support Hunting

If you an issue I challenge you to give them a call and talk to them, or just take pot shots at them behind your keyboard. Some of us are really good at that here at HNI.

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:eek:

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Oh, brother... Here we go...

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No, but what will happen one day is company is getting bashed so they pull theirmoney.Pretty soon no more HNI, because no more money.

I could careless if you use a product or not. Please have some respect for a company of our peers!