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Germ 10-09-2006 11:58 AM

RE: Scent Control and Concealment.
 

ORIGINAL: statjunk

I really liked your experiment but I believe your scent was partially masked not by your carbon suit but by your scent control rituals. I follow those same rituals and like you have never been winded. I've spooked them with sound but never have been scented. That I know of.

For those of you that think Atlasman ruins posts. I disagree. He is attempting to make you guys back your statements with fact. Generalizations and association are not scientifice proof. Anyone who thinks they can attribute success to one thing or product is out of their minds.

Tom
Atlas has proved serveral things with his post[8D]

You are correct there is no magic product, but system we all develop that make us succesful. What works for me, may not work for you.

Dubbya 10-09-2006 01:06 PM

RE: Scent Control and Concealment.
 
Great post Rob, sorry I've been out of the looptesting the Enigmaany/everywhere I can.

Last night I sat on the groundat the edge of a wheatfield bordered by persimmon trees. I was sitting on my stool and a doe and a yearling came into the field. The deer were in the field for 30 minutes within 60 yards walking directly to me. My buddy put out some "Buck Jam" that actually worked against me, I had to sit on the otherside of this smal field due to wind direction. The doe got to 50 yards and turned away to go lick the buck jam. The yearling continued to walk directly me at me until she was at 20 yards. I was hoping that momma would follow the baby but it worked the opposite and I never had a shot.


HAZCON7 10-09-2006 02:34 PM

RE: Scent Control and Concealment.
 

For those of you that think Atlasman ruins posts. I disagree. He is attempting to make you guys back your statements with fact. Generalizations and association are not scientifice proof.
Picking apart every single sentence in a post does not make a scientific point either - it only shows someone childish nature. Rob has made several remarks about "25 years of observations." His comments also ONLY stated, "I believe" and not "it is a fact that..."

Anyone can argueagainst someone's point, it takes no talent. Few can put ideas in concise order to derive a unified thought, that talent speaks for itself.

statjunk 10-09-2006 03:04 PM

RE: Scent Control and Concealment.
 
In some regards you have a point but I've read a lot of posts around here were people attribute their success so blindly to a product that completely contradicts proven science. I'm not just talking about carbon suits.

What we really need is a consumer reports dedicated solely to hunting!!!

Tom

GMMAT 10-09-2006 03:06 PM

RE: Scent Control and Concealment.
 
Great. let's start with the Whisker Biscuit!!

Jeff

Germ 10-09-2006 03:10 PM

RE: Scent Control and Concealment.
 

ORIGINAL: statjunk

In some regards you have a point but I've read a lot of posts around here were people attribute their success so blindly to a product that completely contradicts proven science. I'm not just talking about carbon suits.

What we really need is a consumer reports dedicated solely to hunting!!!

Tom
My consumer report is on my wall, any questions?

mobow 10-09-2006 03:13 PM

RE: Scent Control and Concealment.
 
Rob, I couldn't agree more. Obviously we spook deer that we don't even realize are there, but I think if we take all of the precautions we can it's at least limited. It took me years of aggravation, not seeing many deer, and certainly not killing any deer, to realize it must be something I am doing, or NOT doing.

Since then I've practiced solid scent control, use the wind to my advantage, and wear good camo, like Enigma. Isn't it interesting that "all of a sudden" I'm seeing MANY more deer than I ever have and I even manage to take one home with me once in a while. Certainly I'm running deer off that I never see, but my success rate has climbed 200%.

Speaking of Enigma, stalked another flock of turkey this past weekend. I was never offered a shot, but I snuck to within 20 yards of them in the woods. I know squirrels aren't the brightest bulbs on the tree, and they are pretty easy to fool, but there is something to this Enigma pattern. Ya'll know how squirrels do. They look at you, stare, and obviously see something out of place. Now, what I've noticed w/ Enigma is that they are briefly glancing in my direction, then right back to whatever they are doing. I'm not sure how to describe it, but they act differently to Enigma than other patterns I've worn. My confidence keeps building every time I wear it. There is something scientific going on w/ this pattern, I just can't put a finger on it. It truely works.

statjunk 10-09-2006 03:13 PM

RE: Scent Control and Concealment.
 


My consumer report is on my wall, any questions?
Yeah, like how do you know you just didn't get lucky?

Tom

Germ 10-09-2006 03:15 PM

RE: Scent Control and Concealment.
 
I guess I got lucky twice last year, LOL

The other previous one's were all luck also, you got me LOL

statjunk 10-09-2006 03:20 PM

RE: Scent Control and Concealment.
 

ORIGINAL: ghemry

I guess I got lucky twice last year, LOL

The other previous one's were all luck aslo, you got me LOL


Folks have won the lottery twice!

I'm sure you're a great hunter, you're here aren't you, but I bet it has more to do with you skills and less to do with your equipment (no pun intended).

Tom


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