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I would be intrested to see if any of you had some extra expandables laying around that you wouldnt mind giving up for a price, i want to try expandables but id much rather try a couple used ones before i went out and spent money on brand new ones.. please contact me if you've be willing to cut a deal. thanks

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Not to be synical, but I have a question.......Why?? You hunting turkeys alot?

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yes i hunt turkey alot, as well as i hunt whitetail alot, is there an issue with that? if so get off my message board, thank you.

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Its always nice seeing newbies learning the ropes!

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mobow is a very well respected member, and I don't know that telling him to get your message board on your 6th post is the best way to get results. I think he was asking a valid question.

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Wow...that's pleasant!
If you're hell-bent on trying expandables/mechanicals, go to eBay or just spring for the $25 and buy some Snypers (which, by the way, are excellent mechanical broadheads).
Better yet, stick with Slick Tricks or Magnus Stingers (Buzz Cuts).
Either way...good luck.

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i can see that he's a highly respected member on the site, but as far as my reply to his post goes, i wasnt expecting anyone to ask me WHY im intrested in trying mechanicals or expandables or if i hunt turkey alot, i simply asked if anyone had some they'd be willing to give up, and you;re right ebay is a great option and if i was 18 id go there deffinetly, but being 17 for the next 6 months leaves my options short and i dont have 80 extra bucks to go spend on broadheads that i dont even know if ill like or dislike.. whome ever i offended in this post im sorry, bye.

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Its none of by business, but MY opinion is to stay with broaheads....but having said that, I have some expandables I will sell......the things suck IMO....

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Hmmmm.......not sure about this flip820 character. For one im not sure why he would want to go to expandables???personally I think they suck and have mixed results. Theres always that 1% when they wont open on a good shot only to wound the game.

Flip theres no reason to be defensive on this site. Thoes like me who have been here for 3 or more years have many years of hunting and knowledge under our belts and are more than happy to help you out in anyway we can within our ability. Mobow is a very respected hunter and member of this board and can be very very helpful. lemme rephrase that. IS VERY VERY HELPFUL AND KNOWLEDGABLE>>>>is that how its spelled mobow?

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Wow... Flip is a fitting name... Fist of all this is not your msg board. This is a open forum... MOBO... I think this kid should go hang outside the wall mart and see is he can con someone intobuyinghim some broadheads... But I bet he could not even ask nicely.

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Not to start a fixed/expandable war......but I've been watching a LOT of guys on TV that hunt for a living switching to expandables.

They must not "suck" that much, huh?????

Jeff

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YEAH Mobo what were you thinking asking such a rediculous question!!! :D

That makes about as much sense as him asking to buy used expandables totry, and saying he doesnt have an extra $80 bucks to go spend on broadheads he isnt sure he will like shooting. I dont know about you guys but I can buy a pack of broadheads and expandables for under $15 per pack for a decent brand, and cheap ones for under $10 per pack, look on Cabelas, they have some on sale for $8.

Flip ol buddy, try responding rationally and I would bet you get a much better field of responses bypeople that would help you out.

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Well, if someone pays your way as a sponsor to say that "X" brand is the latest and greatest in the world what would you say? Afterall, that's how they make their living---lying to the public.

Flip, I don't know of any broadheads that cost $80. Number one, you don't need a dozen, or even half dozen for that matter. Three is plenty. Not to pick you apart as you are new, and young, but the respect you recieve here is determined by the respect you show others.

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I don't buy it, BGFisher.

Ask Tiger if he plays NIKE clubs because he thinks they're the best......or because they pay him to play them. I don't think a responsible TVhunter is going to go into the woods with equipment he feels is INFERIOR ......getting paid to shoot them, or not.

It's just my opinion.

Jeff

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1. I don't understand the reason of needing a bunch of used broadheads that you are going to waste money on, before buying ones you like. Just pick a good respectable head and go with it.

2. When asking for people to cut you deals, it is usually best to be polite and not act like a 6 year old.

3. If pretty much ANY head manufacturer out there wants to pay me enough money I will use thier heads.

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Well....the difference, Rybo is.......These guys CAN use any head they want. ANY of the mfg's would pay them money(Just like any of the golf club mfg's would pay Tiger money). There's a reason they're using expandables. It may not be the one you and I THINK it is.....but there's a reason.

jeff

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Wow, I needed a good laugh today, thanks!! Dude.....perhaps some Ridlin is in order or something......All I was merely asking was why you wished to try them.....If you hunt turkey alot, I can see that. Mechanicals are awesome for turkeys! They cut a big hole and burn alot of KE....And I'm not saying they don't work for deer, because they do. Period. BUT....with all of the quality fixed heads on the market, why switch? Most people, not saying you are included, so please don't eat me for lunch....but MOST people use them to cover up a tuning issue. Fixed blade heads exacerbate tuning issues, so they cover them up w/ mechanicals. That opens the door to lots of issues. Poor penetration being one of them.

Yes, TV personalities use them, and I don't really care what their reasons are. There are even more Outfitters that don't allow them, and that means more to me than what some sponsored dude on TV tells me....

Hey, if there is any other way I can be of service to you, please don't hesitate to simply ask. I'm here for ya! Let it out....together, we can get through these trying times.

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AMEN MOBO!!!!

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You took that extremely well MOBOW.

Thats one reason that makes you a good member.;)

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Sometimes it's hard to read emotions in a post. I think that happened with mo, and I feel the thread starter, started wrong.

SBGobbler, the way I read rybo's reply, it wasn't directed toward you but you defended your position in a correct way.

Anyway, I wonder about the original thread starters intentions. Suggestions by many of you would have been surfice to allowing me to pick a head without you sending me used ones. Many of you know what your talking about.

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I dont know much about hunting, so I dont post alot(check that..... AT ALL:D). But, I do know alot about golf. Tiger Woods did play nike clubs due to his contract. He switched back to a Titleist 975D because he could not hit the Nike driver, and lost money because of it. So to think that someone would not use something they are payed to use, doesnt really add up.

I would skip the expandables as well. One more moving part to break. In my short but all too funny hunting career, I have learned the K.I.S.S. technique. Keep It Simple Stupid.:DJust my 2 cents worth.

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First of all, why would you want USED (dull?) broadheads? and second, I dont think anyone is paying any hunter a tenth of what tiger is making by playing nike clubs, or driving a buick.

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I dont think Flip is comming back......shame on us all [>:]

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i check this everyday, ive just chosen to not post because seems like anything i say is wrong, so im sorry to everyone. take care

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Heck, I have switched to mechanicals for every thing, except on my trad bows. I shoot deer, hog, and turkey with mechanicals. I prefer them in all my bows with training wheels. I switched kicking and screaming though. :D But have found no problems with anyone Ive ever used. Never lost an animal yet. I average 3 deer a year and lots of hogs. Last year I took 7 hogs with Nap spitfires.Not one did I have to track. Any broadhead in atuned bow, and tuned arrow, will do the trick. As for my traditional gear, I stick with fixed, due to the lack of speed.

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Like I've said before if you hear a guy say, I use machanicals and I havn't had any problems yet, yet is the key word. (Because it's only a matter of time) I used them for4 years and only had two problems with them and shoot two deer a year. Thatsa pretty good record, but, not good enough when your taking a live animal. I had a Teyken II not open up at all, made a bullet hole in the deer, went through her hart at 10 yards and didn't leave a blood trail. (WOW) Jackhammer hit bone and went in about an inch and wounded a nice buck. Only two problems but that is toooooo many.

Why use a expandable when there are more durable fixed blade heads that fly like field points out there right now! I don't get it. Just listen to these peoples experiences about expandables, thats what these forums are for to learn from others. I know you all have heard the bad stories about them....learn from that and don't use them.

Try stingers if you want a strong sharp head that flies like a field tipe...oh and tune your bow...that helps

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I've used spitfire 100's for years and they do the job. Never had one not open. I guess some mechanical broadheads can defect but I haven't had that problem, YET. It's just a persons choice, just like me shooting a PSE and someone else shooting a Matthews. Mechanicals can be just as deadly as fixed blades.

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Not everything you say is wrong, you just pulled out your club in the third post of this thread and so everyone else decided to do it too! Alot of forums out there in the internet world are poorly moderated and can be very harsh and no friends are made at all. Some you go into and people are all but killing each other and they have the Idea that a thread is "their" thread and can put the smack on anyone who post. But with this one flip is is very well organized and moderated. We are all, well most good posting friends and try to talk nice. If you come in here with the I don't need to be your friend post the guys will sure give it to ya! However if you just try and play nice and build bridges within the groups you can get a wealth of help. Not trying to come down on ya, just tryiong to help ya out. Also never heard back from ya on your last pm that I replied to?

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Yep, me too. I have used just about every type of broadhead in the last 25 years. I am a fond believer in the notion that any quality broadhead, shot with a well tunned bow, and placed in the right spot will do the job. I use both, and have no problem with either type. Heck, when i first started bow hunting, Bear two blades were all you could get. They did the job, and are sub par compared to todays standards. Big, bulky, a pain to tune, had to resharpen, planned out, etc. etc. But worked when used properly.

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burnie, I have no doubts that mechanicals work well for you. Shoot, as many as there are to choose from, they MUST work to a degree or they wouldn't sell. I've seen many a deer killed w/ a rocket sidewinder, and I myself have killed a deer w/ an old Punchcutter (how many of ya'll remember those?)

I stick w/ my 2 previous points, however. MOST people use them as a bandaid for a tuning issue, and w/ all the outfitters out there, and even some states not allowing them, couple that w/ all of the fantastic fixed blade heads available now, and I personally see no reason to use them. But I have nothing negative to say about anyone who does either.

PS. I took no offense to flip's post, and actually found it quite humorous. While I agree he played his trump card a little early in the exchange, I hope he comes back, visits us, and even posts some replys now and again. We can all learn from each other. I'm not the end all of the archery world, there are many more out there w/ more experience and knowledge than I will ever have. To those of you whom jumped to my defense, know I appreciate it and was quite humbled to be referred to as a "respected archer and member." Ok, I'm done now......LET'S ALL GO KILL SOME DEER!!! And I don't give a flip (hahahaha) about what BH ya'll use. LOL.....

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Is it the people who dont like expandables dont like the flip ones but the new slid ones are ok or do you not like any expandables

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I had good success with the Rocky Mtn Snypers (now called Rage). I think 5Shot rated them very highly as well.

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Flip, if you'll PM me I'll send you a couple different mechanicals that you can test out and see how you like them.

As for the golf talk, if you remember correctly when Tiger started he played Cobra Irons that were blades, when Nike offered him the contract, part of the deal was that Nike would develop a Form Forged blade iron. Only at that point did Tiger switch to Nike. And it's strange how similar his Nike irons were to his King Cobra's.

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monster10rackstack,

I previously posted what happend with the Teken II with me. It is a slide head. I moved to this head because I had an issue with the flip head expadables. I shot a does last year with it and the Teken did not open up. Lucky I shot her at 10 yards through the hart. But it was in the snow and there was no blook trail at all and she died at 40 yards. I can't emagine what would have happend if it was a big guy and I one lunged him, or any kind of deer for that matter.

Im not against these expadables just to be against them. I thought they were the best next thing. I shot these head for years an had issues with both kinds of expadables and I just don't want to see people go through the same thing. Take it for what its worth I guess. Why not use a good fixedhead that flies like a field tip.I wish I new that 10 years ago, but I learned the hard way.

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If you'll rememebr correctly......Tiger played MIZUNO irons when he was an amateur. He then switched to Titleist......which EXACTLY copied the Mizunos......then switched to the Nike ball......then switched to the Nike irons.....when they EXACTLY copied everything else that had been copied before.

I was a golf pro in my former life :).

Jeff

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mobowhuntr
I agree. I ama fond believer that any quality broad head will do the job if used properly. Thats why I only use mechanicals with my wheel bows. I wouldnt think of using them with my trad bows. I also believe any broad head will fail you if your bow and arrow is not tunned. I agree, most people feel a mechanical will solve their tunning problems. It wont. Just like anyother tool, broadheads must be used properly for success.

Punchcutter,,, Lol. My brother thought they were the next best thing. I never used one, but my brother did. I stuck with my bear two blades. Besides, I was hunting with my old Herters recurve in those days, and didnt even want to try them.

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I equate it to what people are comfortable with. Just like rests, arrows,and bows, you will never get a straight, conclusive answer about which is best. Some people do not like mechanicals simply because the do not like change. It took me a long time to switch due to this. Others hear of problems with them, and jump on the band wagon. Im kinda guilty of this mentality. I will never use thunderheads ever agian. I have had more problems with them than any other head, yet others love them. Its all in personal preference, pluse what you are hunting, as well as your equipment. I have seen tuns of pissing contests on how great mechanicals are, and how bad they are. Every archery sight will have a hundred post thread on the pros and cons. Its about 50-50. Half love them, half hate them.

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Talking about broadhead (fixed) what do you guys thing is better, 3 blade or 4 blade. I've been bow hunting for about 2 years now, have not shot at one yet but I am use Muzzy 100 in a 4 blade.[8D]

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SBGobblers, I stand corrected. He played MP-14's or the like and a Cobra Driver. My apologies.

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Agian, personal preference. When I started, over 25+ years ago, two blade was about it with a few three blade configurations. Ive used them all, Muzzy three blade and four blade, as well as first cut and bear two blades. I think they all work equally well. I use slick tricks, Muzzy, and Sonics with my recurves. All in three blades. Simply because that is what I have alway used. It has nothing to do with the 4 blades performance. They worked great as well. The only thing ive come to really like with a fixed is a true cut on contact, like with the sonic. Other than that, not much difference when all are tunned correctly.