RE: Is the obsession to shoot big bucks corrupting bowhunting?
 

I'm not choosing sides, here.....but I see David's point. For instance......When I was growing up (rural NC)....I can count on both hands the number of deer I saw.....and I NEVER saw a wild turkey until I was in college. Deer were hard to find, back then.

There's been SO MANY leaps and bounds int the hunting "industry"....and many leaps and bounds in research that have made hunting easier in MY opinion. One part of the "research" side is the bag limits/QDM (which I ALSO believe is 'QAM')/leases w/restrictions/etc... . Now the sheer deer numbers are up in our state....which depending on who you ask....is a good/bad thing (I grew up farming). With the advent of the management/lease popularity/QDM (QAM).....it's (again...in MY opinion) MUCH easier to find the P&Y/B&C bucks. I'll go so far as to say that they don't mean what they used to (Bash if you must...but I'm entitled to my opinion). I'm betting (and I could be wrong....and will admit it if I'm shown otherwise) that 20 years agoa P&Y buck couldn't be guaranteed to a client in a particular camp......much less a particular HUNT! To me.....it seems like we're artificially growing these giants.....and it somewhat diminishes the deer that people that don't have access to these monstersharvest. It's that simple.

That......and to hear peopleconstantly talk about"Passing" on 130 and 140 class deer.....is demeaning.Just the language, though.....not the fact. The "class" of a deer one chooses to"Pass" on is irrelevant. Why not just say you're holding out for "your" deer? Or....I have my own personal criteria? If we diminish hunting down tosciences and seemingly "genetically enhanced" deer......for the sake of seeing who can pixx the highest on the wall......I won't even discuss hunting with anyone, anyomore.

I hold NO ill will for those who "trophy" hunt. More power to you! I do, too! I'm hunting for my trophy.....and if I had access to the deer soem of you do.....then I'd SURELY be holding out for the monsters, myself.

BUT.....I will NEVER talk down to anyone that shoots ANY animal that they take by legal means.......whatever size.....whatever year-old.....whatever sex. It ain't right.

Jeff

RE: Is the obsession to shoot big bucks corrupting bowhunting?
 

This type of attitude and opinions is the result of the desperate need to shoot a BIG BUCK IMO.

This guy is calling someone an idiot b/c he chooses not to hunt they way a QDMer does?

Maybe killing a 130 inch deer is not tops on the priority scale for everyone.

RE: Is the obsession to shoot big bucks corrupting bowhunting?
 

I may be an idiot, but I do all right. This is just the tip of the ice berg, or would that be tenderloins I've provided. OH, and here's one of your replies from a recent thread. Which way is it?[8D] I couldn't begin to tell you what any of them scores either. I do know the 10 point has a 21 1/2 inch spread. The rest are 18-19.

RE: Is the obsession to shoot big bucks corrupting bowhunting?
 

No,it corrupts all hunting.It is rediculous.Bashing huters for what they kill,or saying that one person is better than the other b/c of how big a deer he/she takes.It has alot to do with location.I like a big buck as much as the next guy,but there's more to it than that.If you have to ask what else there is then you are one of the guilty one's.;)

RE: Is the obsession to shoot big bucks corrupting bowhunting?
 

davidmil, those are some nice bucks. Congrats

RE: Is the obsession to shoot big bucks corrupting bowhunting?
 

My answer to this question is no, it does not corrupt hunting. People trying to shoot big bucks by illegal and unethical means does corrupt it. There are many people that consistantly take trophy bucks that know one has ever heard of. They don't brag about it or try to make people think that their way of hunting is the only way to hunt. How or what you hunt is your own personal decision. Nobody has the right to tell you differently. As long as you're within the law, it's your choice as to what makes you happy. I personally like to hunt for trophy bucks and does. I let the little ones go. BTW, I've taken 37 bucks and know what every one of them scores, their weight and age. This goes for the does age and weight also. I'm in to this type of thing and make no apologies for it.

RE: Is the obsession to shoot big bucks corrupting bowhunting?
 

HUntin Gus, i dont need to shoot a big buck or even a buck at all to think im a good hunter. I bashed him because he bashed me. Dont tell me to build a high fence because they do it with angus all the time. Im tired of some people telling me off and i just take it. If you bash me i bash you. You do not know me so IMO you have no right to tell me that i think i have to kill a buck. DavidMIl, dont dish it out if you cant take it. I also like how you think you have to take a picture to prove something, i dont care if you shoot big bucks or small bucks, your decision, your opinion. But dont tell me my opinion is wrong and to go build a high fence

RE: Is the obsession to shoot big bucks corrupting bowhunting?
 

Heh heh hee..... Who said I couldn't take it Grasshopper?:D:D I love this stuff.[8D]

P.S. That should be "you're an idiot".[8D]

RE: Is the obsession to shoot big bucks corrupting bowhunting?
 

I know this is off subject but I need to say this.

Bowhunter4life, there is no reason for name calling. I know Davidmil is a big boy and doesn't need my help here, but you should try to get to know people through their posts before you spout off like that. David and I don't always see eye to eye on subjects but there is no personal insults thrown.He wasn't speaking directly to you about the high fences and cattle refrence just that in general.

I don't know how old you are but you come across as a younger person. I don't know how long you have lurked here but you only signed up two months ago. Do a littleresearch about the person you are about to insult before you do and you may find out something about them. In this case it's someone who has served this great country and put his life on the line so you have the "right" to insult him.

RE: Is the obsession to shoot big bucks corrupting bowhunting?
 

I don't think it is. I think that some people just need to remember that first, what's big around one area might be small in another and second, not everyone can aford to go on hunts out of theri area where they can get big bucks.