RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

There are a couple drop aways that offer nice containment now.........most do not. That little rubber stopper that glues to your riser is junk. I do like some of the newer drop away designs though. It's funny.......so many of the hard core drop away guys blew off arrow containment over the years like it was a meaningless feature...........now all their favorite drop aways are jumping on the bandwagon........and all of the sudden they are all for containment now

You listed a few reasons why I don't like drop aways (for hunting) right in your question. You have to put moleskin on them to quiet them down.......I don't like that for a couple reasons. First of all the rest was designed for the forks to fall the way they are.........now add the weight and drag of moleskin and adhesive to them and do they still fall at the same speed?? I also don't like the fact that what is holding my arrow could change.......I don't want to constantly be checking to see that the adhesive isn't failing and the moleskin has become loose.........or it snagged on a twig on the way up to the stand and peeled up slightly............all that stuff many not bother everybody........but it would bother me. I am a VERY detail focused person and I don't like variables that could screw things up........I try to keep it simple. Second of all I don't like extra moving parts (variables). Depending on a moving piece of equipment with cords, plastic forks, springs, pins, grease, bearings, etc is all trouble I don't need to worry about. I had a drop away and the rubber stopper fell off in the woods and one of the forks went flying during practice one day. Moving parts in the woods is a recipe for disaster IMO. Lastly, I can't even begin to tell you how many bows I have seen with poorly setup drop aways on them and they still get all kinds of vane contact. That is one of the biggest fairy tales out there..........people think that a drop away will NEVER have vane contact by design.............WRONG!!! They have had countless issues over the years with forks not dropping fast enough (I was told by Bowtech personally in 2003 that NAP drop aways and the MZE would not work with their bows unless they were modified) A lot of people out there think you can just strap on a drop away and your arrows will never hit anything......just like magic. I have seen my fair share of bows with plenty of vane contact that have drop aways on them. My good friend had lots of trouble last year with his Switchback........he finally solved the problem when he bought his THIRD drop away. They are good rests for certain and I am not mocking them at all.......I just don't see them as the best option to hunt with.



That is meaningless to me............3 fps is not something you or the deer will ever notice. I agree that you don't want a MAJOR loss of speed with anything.........and certainly a MAJOR gain of speed would be worth it. 3 fps is neither of those.




Price is the least of it's benefits.........The rest is simple, solid, quiet, accurate, tough, and holds the arrow at any angle. SIMPLE----It installs quickly and easily and has micro adjustments for easier tuning. It has a side load drop in notch that makes nocking an arrow a breeze and no worries about the arrow rattling off the riser. SOLID----I just grab my bow and go......I don't worry about it hitting something or scraping through the brush. I know when I come out the other side it will be right there where I left it............I'm not sure what would happen if you tried to push your way through some of the brush I have with a plastic fork or that Muzzy fishing hook thing [:o] QUIET----This is not even an issue for me because I have never heard a noisey WB I have shot deer as close as 13 feet and they never heard a thing. Believe me if it was too loud to hunt with I certainly wouldn't be using it. I think everyone gets a little worked up over this issue anyways........remember that most deer are gonna be in the 15-20 yard range (some further, some closer) but I would say that is a good average. That is 45-60 feet away........and we are 20 feet up a tree!!! Cmon people.........I know your face is right next to the rest so we hear everything right at the source.........if your rest is so loud that you can hear it 60 feet away then you have some SERIOUS problems.......I could drag my nails on a chalk board and you probably wouldn't hear it 60 feet away. Some people are noise freaks........some are vibration freaks.......some are speed freaks........nothing will EVER be good enough for any of them. All I know is the 6 deer I have killed with my WB didn't hear anything and that is all I need to know. ACCURATE----I can shoot my bow in nice groups out to 40 yards with broadheads. I will not shoot farther then 25 in the woods so it is more then accurate enough for me. At 20 yards I get bored and start shooting at my 3D targets eyes and nose and stuff. All 6 deer I killed were nice double lung passthroughs with short blood trails and quick kills. What else is there??......Oh yea TOUGH----This will be year 4 with this rest.....no problems yet.....tens of thousands of shots and well over 100 trips into the woods.

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

It seems like atlasman is not budging on this one boys. Thats to bad.

It's simple to me the more contact with your arrow after you let the string go means a less forgiving rest, like the WB. The less contact or no contact after you let go of the string means more forgiving, like a drop away.

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

Did I say you did?



I do see that now that I re read your post..........my mistake. I guess the get rid of the thing in all caps threw me off ;)

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

Glad it works for ya...........if I had a noisey rest I would quiet it down too. Fortunately I haven't needed to.

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

Budging on what?


Accuracy is not a problem at all.........any bow out there is only gonna be as accurate as the guy shooting it. I can hold nice groups out to 40 yards with broadheads..........that is MORE then accurate enough for me. I have shot drop aways plenty of times.......didn't change my accuracy either way. Drop aways are fine rests............they are just far from the best option for hunting IMO.

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

"Glad it works for ya...........if I had a noisey rest I would quiet it down too. Fortunately I haven't needed to"

There metal prongs. Your supposed to put these on. Crazy a#!
You do have a noisy rest your just to looney to admit it." Do your little quote thing that you always do and write something back. I wantthis to go on for 17 more pages. This is fun!

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

As a new archer looking for information in order to choose a good setup, I have become particularly interested in the WB for several reasons. I'm curious whether you've had to buy any replacement biscuits during that 4-year period due to general wear.

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

And just as may will be on here asking how to quiet down there drop aways or how to adjust them or how to make the springs stiffer, or whyam I havingfletching contact....etc....

No rest is perfect, and I never said it was the "quietest thing going"All I am trying to say is I have not experienced any excessive noise from my rest even in the harshest conditions. I believe, if set up correctly with the correct size opening to the arrows you are shootingthe new style Biscuit (brown with black bottom bristles) will be PLENTY quiet right out of the box without having to add anything to it.

After it'sset up there is nothing to adjust...even if your string creeps, you don't have to fiddle with it or replace mole skin, no moving parts to break or freeze, plenty accurate for all hunting situations, contains the arrow at all times even with multiple draws and slow let downs, sturdy and reliable.....no brainer.

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

Nope, my rest looks the same as the day I purchased it. You will need to shoot alot of arrows to wear one of these out. And even if you did, a replacement disc is only about $12.00 and all you need to do is install it into your existing rest....no need to re-adjust anything, and takes 5min to do.

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

My drop away hasn't ever made any noise and the adhesive felt that covers the prong and the containment bar have never shown any signs of peeling or movement. I've tested it with an arrow locked into position by vigorously shaking the bow and rarely does the arrow move because of how pitched the prong is but when it does come out of there it only makes very quite ding sounds. This is with me shaking the $hit out of it.

Tom