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11-03-2002 | 03:44 PM

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CAJUNBOWHNTR

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From: Walker LA USA

RE: Very disappointed in Muzzy BH performance

Well when the guy TEACHING the class stated he PREFFERED his arrow not to pass thru I wondered how much you could actually learn from this class.I don't know of anyone who prefers to not have a complete pass thru.As it turns out the class was a TOTALL waste of my time.I also felt sorry for the young guys taking the class.Then the guy stated he had to switch to feathers after switching to a release aid and did'nt know why he could'nt get good arrow flight with vanes.Well he was shooting a full helical and a shoot thru rest..duh.It just amazed me that this guy was TEACHING bowhunter education.Sorry to digress from the original post.Atlasman I would swap the heads on the "fliers" to a different arrow.This would eleminate a bad arrow,insert etc.

Billy

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11-03-2002 | 05:07 PM

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davidmil

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RE: Very disappointed in Muzzy BH performance

That's a case of an instructor not sticking to the well laid out lesson plans and policies. When they start trying to convince the class that THEIR way is better it can only lead to misinformation. AND... in this case the guys theory is whacko. Some people.<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle> The IBEF instructs that NOTHING beats a SHARP broadhead. I believe it says passthrough for sure.

11-03-2002 | 05:19 PM

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smokyghost

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From: Hebron Maryland USA

RE: Very disappointed in Muzzy BH performance

I shot a deer 2 weeks ago, and I was using a muzzy 100 gr 3 blade. it went in the right side back a bit and blew through the left shoulder and stuck into the ground about 5 inches. I like the muzzy bh. all I have to say is PRACTICE

11-03-2002 | 06:35 PM

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Lilhunter

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RE: Very disappointed in Muzzy BH performance

Exactly David! I cant rememeber if it says pass through for sure or not though, I'll have to get my book and check it out. I havent tought many classes in the past year now..been to busy hunting and fishing LOL!

A pass through is the optimal in most bowhunters eyes..but there are many folks I know and a few I respect as bowhunters both known and not, that would rather leave an arrow inside to "do more damage" which btw it does. Not that I prefer it but it has happened....I have seen a caribou hind quarter devasted by an errant shot...a moose front leg almost thrashed from a 2 blade head...the list could go on and on.

11-03-2002 | 06:49 PM

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grim reaper

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From: fairfield pa USA

RE: Very disappointed in Muzzy BH performance

If your arrow rest,nocking point and broad head alignment are all tuned right you will never have a flyers and in most cases you shouldn't have to move your pins much from field points to broad heads. I shoot 4" strait fletchings and muzzy 100 gr. 3 blade broad heads with no problem. If you are not sure how to tune your arrow rest and nocking point take it to your local pro shop trust me it will be worth the 5 or 6 dollars to have this done. I definetly agree with every one this is not broad heads fault.

11-03-2002 | 07:26 PM

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W. Dale

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From: Clarendon NC USA

RE: Very disappointed in Muzzy BH performance

I know how you feel about missing the buck, but not about your opinion of the Muzzys.....I love Muzzy 100 grain 3 blades.....They fly just like my field points....I'm also pleased with the way they resharpen.........I haven't hit a tree or rock however, just flesh and dirt.....I hope you find what makes you group well....

11-03-2002 | 09:34 PM

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atlasman

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RE: Very disappointed in Muzzy BH performance

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quotequote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>You miss a buck in the dark, and now your saying it was the heads fault?<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Where did I say the head caused my miss??

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>I'd keep looking for that rock. Old dead tree roots the size of your pinky don't do that type of damage to a Muzzy.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Exactly my point. I went back and dug with a hand spade deeper then the arrow was sunk--------no rock, just roots--the biggest of which is the size of my little finger. That is all the proof I need.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Then why are you useing them in the first place?<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Because 90% of the time they fly fine. At $30 a pack I am not about to sample every head out there as a process of elimination. I chose instead to work with what I had and mark and remove arrows, swap heads, try multiple blade configurations and multiple nock configurations as well(I shoot a drop away). I never managed to totally eliminate the flyers.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>I won't bother to go into the chastizing (sp?) you gave other members in your post last night when they reccomended you exhaust every effort to recover this buck before hunting again.
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Are you saying I chastised other members for saying I should look for my deer?? I hope not because you can't read if that's the case.

I did point out that out of a whole long story full of information and requests for advice as usual the only thing I got a response to was a sentence I worded poorly so it read like I was gonna hunt again without looking for this deer. God, the freakin' ethics police around here are so quick to sniff out ANYTHING even the least bit negative and pounce on it that new posters here are probably afraid to ask questions because they see how quick the hammer drops.

I was still worked up and my mind was replaying the scene over and over. Forgive me oh flawless one, I typed something wrong. I got the entire deer story right but no one seemed to care about that.

11-03-2002 | 09:44 PM

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atlasman

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RE: Very disappointed in Muzzy BH performance

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Sorry dude i dont think there is anything wrong with your Muzzy's!!!

My proshop begs to differ---I will explain later

I think that you might want to take a bowhunters education course ASAP!!!!!

why even post something so dumb??

And also Larry Wise has a book for ya call Tuning the compound bow. You should try and find it and read it!!!!!!

Ah, the predictable response of "your bow is not tuned" I would tell you all the time and effort put in making sure my bow is tuned perfectly but you won't believe me anyway so why bother

Sorry for the harsh words but people like you are the reason i think all states should make it manditory for a hunter to take a bowhunters education coures!!!!

People like me?? What the hell does that even mean?? The class IS manditory in my state so what is your point?? Let me guess, you shoot Muzzy heads and they work well for you so anyone else that they don't work for is wrong............GROW UP

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11-03-2002 | 09:53 PM

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atlasman

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From: NY

RE: Very disappointed in Muzzy BH performance

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Even more sorry you are blaming the broadhead for your troubles.<img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>

When did I blame the head for my trouble???

Sounds like you are having problems with a. tuning, b. insert alignment, or c. form inconsistency.

a. NO b. NO c. ANYONE who says they are in PERFECT form every time they are leaning, twisting, or angling to get a clean shot out of a treestand is lying so I don't see your point. I am sure my form is not PERFECT on EVERY shot I take, and unless you are an Olympic archer yours is not either. If the broadhead is so sensitive that any micro flaw in form will send a flyer I DON'T WANT IT because everything doesn't happen in slow motion in the woods and the deer don't always appear where you hope and when they do they don't exactly sit around posing for you to get a good clean easy shot.

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11-03-2002 | 10:16 PM

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atlasman

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RE: Very disappointed in Muzzy BH performance

First of all I would like to know why everyone is saying I am blaming the MUZZY head for my miss?? I did say I have never been happy with the consistency of flight and I am sure not happy with how it got beat up by dirt and a skinny old tree root. The damage taken is the main reason why I will no longer shoot them.

I am very happy for all the guys that MUZZY's work like a charm for......don't jump on me for telling my experience just because it doesn't match yours.

I took my bow to the shop today and had it checked by the shop guys just to make sure I wasn't missing something and all 3 of them agreed my bow was perfect as is. I then told them why I was having them check it out and they said "That sucks" about the deer but the bow is solid. I then showed them the MUZZY head and they all shook their heads and told me I am the 6th or 7th guy that reported MUZZY failure this season. Two other guys brought in the damaged heads and in their opinion they think somehing has to be up with the MUZZY heads this year. They said they are not sure if MUZZY changed anything or if this is a widespread issue but they have NEVER seen it before concerning MUZZY heads which they HIGHLY recommend.......along with thunderheads.

I am sure I will get drilled for telling that story........don't really know why but I am sure I will.

Again, just my experience and I thought I would share.

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