Monster Bucks XIV
05-03-2006, 03:42 PM
#41
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,933
RE: Monster Bucks XIV
Not me in the picture, and I didn't take the picture. At least it was taken from the deer's perspective which is better than I can say for 99% of the advertising pic's published from other camo manufacturers. The purpose of the picture was to show that the human outline is broken up better than when wearing "blob" stuff.
I get winded dozens of times in a season. Being on the move constantly, hunting new areas every-year, I'm not ashamed to say I get winded often. Also, when I say "winded", I'm also talking about deer catching my track, which happens all the time. I hunt new stands almost every-single-hunt, so it's impossible to know what the deer will do everytime.
Lone Wolf Climber, finally, we can agree on something! he he he.... Shoot straight eh!
Sorry to get off-topic with this. Sometimes my opinions just get the best of me!
I get winded dozens of times in a season. Being on the move constantly, hunting new areas every-year, I'm not ashamed to say I get winded often. Also, when I say "winded", I'm also talking about deer catching my track, which happens all the time. I hunt new stands almost every-single-hunt, so it's impossible to know what the deer will do everytime.
Lone Wolf Climber, finally, we can agree on something! he he he.... Shoot straight eh!
Sorry to get off-topic with this. Sometimes my opinions just get the best of me!
05-03-2006, 03:53 PM
#42
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Grand Haven MI.
Posts: 327
RE: Monster Bucks XIV
Don't listen to The Lone Wolf, he hardly steps foot in the woods. Just kidding Todd. If anyone here knows what works he does. He hunts more in one season than most of us do in 10 seasons.
05-03-2006, 08:00 PM
#43
Fork Horn
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 397
RE: Monster Bucks XIV
Bowtech. Youve got that right he hunted everyday for like 43 or 46 days straight before killing the shreader. Todd is one of the most anal hunters I know(I mean that with respect) He takes very few short cuts and analizes everything he uses. He is one heck of a die hard whitetail freak and an all around great guy. Not many guys will pull up stakes and move their home and business to IA just to hunt whitetails. Im so lucky to have Todd as a buddy. Man is that sappy or what?
Jason
Jason
05-04-2006, 10:02 AM
#44
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Posts: 1,927
RE: Monster Bucks XIV
ORIGINAL: ghemry
How many Big Deer have you shot in your lesser know brand? Since realtree issub standard, you should be well ahead of me in my realtree camo.
I guessI dont quite understand where the 12 P&Ys play into all this but ok.
Keep in mind he has used Buffalo Plaid before as hiscamo too.
I've heard it said that most patterns are designed to look good at 16", the average arm length. I don't know if this is just cynisism or a true statement but it does seem to have a ring of truth to it.
Ghemry, your statement about 12 P&Y comes across as arrogant and assumes several things and leaves out several things. I would say the biggest factor in your success is where you hunt! You stand less a chance of shooting 1 P&Y if you're not in an area that has a good population of that size deer. I'm not detracting from your accomplishments but it's not the best benchmark for comparison of hunting skills and methods. Those same skills and methods (and camo) may not produce more than a few 125" class deer in another location with a lesser quality population.
Oh, and to veer back on topic. Here's what Chuck had to say about videos: http://www.bowsite.com/bowsite/features/interviews/chuckadams/windowsmedia/VQ4.wma
He echos my sentiment of hunting voyarism.
05-04-2006, 11:19 AM
#45
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Michigan/Ohio
Posts: 11,682
RE: Monster Bucks XIV
ORIGINAL: Talondale
Check out what Chuck Adams has to say about this subject: http://www.bowsite.com/bowsite/features/interviews/chuckadams/windowsmedia/VQ2.wma
Keep in mind he has used Buffalo Plaid before as hiscamo too.
I've heard it said that most patterns are designed to look good at 16", the average arm length. I don't know if this is just cynisism or a true statement but it does seem to have a ring of truth to it.
Ghemry, your statement about 12 P&Y comes across as arrogant and assumes several things and leaves out several things. I would say the biggest factor in your success is where you hunt! You stand less a chance of shooting 1 P&Y if you're not in an area that has a good population of that size deer. I'm not detracting from your accomplishments but it's not the best benchmark for comparison of hunting skills and methods. Those same skills and methods (and camo) may not produce more than a few 125" class deer in another location with a lesser quality population.
Oh, and to veer back on topic. Here's what Chuck had to say about videos: http://www.bowsite.com/bowsite/features/interviews/chuckadams/windowsmedia/VQ4.wma
He echos my sentiment of hunting voyarism.
ORIGINAL: ghemry
How many Big Deer have you shot in your lesser know brand? Since realtree issub standard, you should be well ahead of me in my realtree camo.
I guessI dont quite understand where the 12 P&Ys play into all this but ok.
Keep in mind he has used Buffalo Plaid before as hiscamo too.
I've heard it said that most patterns are designed to look good at 16", the average arm length. I don't know if this is just cynisism or a true statement but it does seem to have a ring of truth to it.
Ghemry, your statement about 12 P&Y comes across as arrogant and assumes several things and leaves out several things. I would say the biggest factor in your success is where you hunt! You stand less a chance of shooting 1 P&Y if you're not in an area that has a good population of that size deer. I'm not detracting from your accomplishments but it's not the best benchmark for comparison of hunting skills and methods. Those same skills and methods (and camo) may not produce more than a few 125" class deer in another location with a lesser quality population.
Oh, and to veer back on topic. Here's what Chuck had to say about videos: http://www.bowsite.com/bowsite/features/interviews/chuckadams/windowsmedia/VQ4.wma
He echos my sentiment of hunting voyarism.
The comment was only made because it was suggested I have sub standards for camo. Yes it is were I hunt and have stated that before. It is funny my Dad and both my uncles have 16 mores years of hunting the same farm as me(Gun hunting only). The three have 2 P & Y combined, I am not arrogant just confident in my equipment and skill. I would have never made the comment, but the comment about "someof usneed a higher standard" kind set me off. I hunt in MI, the deer I am most proud of is the 8 point I shot on public land. He is not P&Y, but I really had to work hard for him.
05-04-2006, 12:13 PM
#46
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2004
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RE: Monster Bucks XIV
I didn't figure you actually were arrogant but the statement seemed invalid as a benchmark for backing your supposition. Now if you were willing to hunt alternating years with the different camo and then see which one you were most successful with then that may be more of a scientifically valid basis. LOL
05-04-2006, 12:18 PM
#47
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Northern Illinoise
Posts: 2,464
RE: Monster Bucks XIV
Just so I don't miss out on The Lone Wolf love fest - I have to give Mr. Pringlenutz some props. He is a very dedicated hunter and sticks to his guns about his beliefs. Of course not all of us buy into his "alternative" lifestyle but hey, to each his own. 
Oh and just in case anyone cares - Bill Winke tells the story of the buck he shoots in this particular video (Monster Bucks XIV) here:
http://www.huntingnet.com/fieldjourn...l.aspx?nID=177
Oh and just in case anyone cares - Bill Winke tells the story of the buck he shoots in this particular video (Monster Bucks XIV) here:
http://www.huntingnet.com/fieldjourn...l.aspx?nID=177
05-04-2006, 12:54 PM
#48
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Michigan/Ohio
Posts: 11,682
RE: Monster Bucks XIV
ORIGINAL: Talondale
I didn't figure you actually were arrogant but the statement seemed invalid as a benchmark for backing your supposition. Now if you were willing to hunt alternating years with the different camo and then see which one you were most successful with then that may be more of a scientifically valid basis. LOL
I didn't figure you actually were arrogant but the statement seemed invalid as a benchmark for backing your supposition. Now if you were willing to hunt alternating years with the different camo and then see which one you were most successful with then that may be more of a scientifically valid basis. LOL
05-05-2006, 05:29 AM
#49
Fork Horn
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 397
RE: Monster Bucks XIV
Well I guess I shouldnt have said they suck but the more I see these patterns in the woods next to other patterns I see a major differance. Yesterday I spent the day with a buddy up by Ludington,MI filming him trying to take a turkey with a bow and to start off alot of the videoI tried to film him in his setup and at some pointsI had a real hard time finding him. He just reciently switched to Preditor Camo and man did he ever blend in. He got cought in an open field with just a small amount of grass and weeds around him at knee level and was able to get a shot off w/o a blind at a strutting bird 30 yards away and the Tom never saw him. He missed though. Anyways I just seem to look like a big black blob compaired to his pattern. Im sweitching forsure since this experiance yesterday. He blended in soooo sweet!!!! Today Im back in GR and will be looking for someone who sells Preditor or atleast looking online.
jason
jason
05-05-2006, 06:07 AM
#50
Boone & Crockett
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Lehigh County PA USA
Posts: 12,157
RE: Monster Bucks XIV
Wow, this thread got off track in a hurry...but since Justin let it go I guess I have to as well. 
...wish I could hunt for 40-some days straight.
I must say that there must be something to the modern camos...(nothing against Predator or ASAT)...as I have taken plenty of deer while wearing them. As others have stated though there is more to it than just the pattern itself though I think all camo manufacturers would like us to believe otherwise.
...wish I could hunt for 40-some days straight.
I must say that there must be something to the modern camos...(nothing against Predator or ASAT)...as I have taken plenty of deer while wearing them. As others have stated though there is more to it than just the pattern itself though I think all camo manufacturers would like us to believe otherwise.