I'm a good enough shot to kill deer (2 for 2 so far) but I don't shoot 3d or anything. I can consistently put all 5 arrows in a 6 inch diameterring at 30 yards (I don't use a peep or kisser). What are your groups like at 30 yards and what kind of sight setup do you use?

I practice at 30 and 40 yards all the time. My 30 yard groups are an honest 2 - 2 1/2". On a good night, half that, but not normally.

That means you have golf ball size groups at 30 yards on a good night - thats very impressive!

Same here, I can shoot the forskin off a nat at 30 yds. 30yds? please.

within 2 inches at 25, 30, and 40.




but i do shoot a crossbow[:-]dont hate me, i'll own a vert. soon[8D]

My arrows are usually about all touching one another at 30yards. But, I shoot my bow almost everyday in the summer and fall. We do alot of 3D shoots as well.

Thanks, and yes, it is when I do it. That's not the norm, though. I really gotta be on to pull that one off.

Could someone define the size of the group for me?

We may not be talking about the same number.

If I shoot 5 arrows and then stick a ruler up to them and measure the distance from the outside of the two furthest arrows from center.
Let's say the number is 2.5"

Is that a 2.5" group?

Let's say every arrow was below (right of, left of, above- whatever) the center of the intended target, would you consider the size of the group from the center of the aimed at target to the furthest arrow away from the center. Lets say that number is 2.5", would you now call that a 5" group?

I shoot almost every night too but I'm not as good as you guys. Part of my problem is my vanes are wavy and torn from getting passthroughs on my old crappy target. I also have a single pin sighted in for 23 yards. My arrow drops a couple of inches at 30 yards so I have to hold high. Plus it's windy where I live - excuses, excuses LOL.

In my basement, with a peep and new arrowsI had <1 inch groups at 20 yards. I need to refletch and put the peep back on I think.

I'm with her. I can't let her outshoot me. I make her stay out till I do the best.We play alot of bow which means one of us picks out a target and the other has to hit it or do better. I can honestly get most of my arrows in a 2-3'' group at 40 yds. We shoot all the time though.