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WB fanatics......have you tried shooting Quick Spins through that thing? I did.....lol. Experiment yourself.....and get back to me.

I'm glad someone (well several have) else posted about the WB noise. Maybe Atlas won't think I'm the only person that's ever had a noise problem with a WB.

I HAVE hunted, before. I am not a moron. I can hear.

Jeff

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I posted I was moron, because I did not read the title, Drop-aways are not part of this thread.

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I used a WB for 3 years and had very good luck with it hunting. The biggest problem I had was that I was shooting plastic vanes and they got chewed up pretty fast. Last Summer I switched to an Ultra Rest drop-awaywhich still "captures" the arrow but no fletching contact. My groups tightened up as well.....

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I'm a big proponent of the Whisker Biscuit so I will chime in here. I feel it's a great hunting/all around rest. It's plenty accurate for 99% of the people reading this, and in the right hands is just as accurate as any other rest on the market today. It's full proof ie: no moving parts to break or go out of tune.

It's key that you set it upright and that starts with the correct size opening. For the most part if you are shooting a stardard carbon arrow youshould be using the large opening biscuit. Next you should tune your bow. Start off with a true center shot (to your string)a 90deg. arrow nock, even tiller and go from there.

I shoot the standard el-cheapo 4in vanes with no sign of wear and no noise at all. I'm not doing anything special nor am I some "expert tuner" so anybody can get these results.

As far as the whole "Biscuit shooters need to have better form" is just not true. You all must remember that no matter what kind of rest you choose, drop away, prong, biscuit, etc... the arrow is STILL attached to the string and poor form will effect arrow flight. It's not untilthe arrowleaves the string that it's truely "on it's own".

As a hunter I feel there is nothing on the market better, it just does it's job plain and simple. Nothing special about it, no cool levers or pull strings, no adjustable springs or settings. No need to add additionalgizmos to the rest to get it to capture your arrow. (God knows those little glue on arrow holders never come off, especiallyin the rain.....at the wrong time:eek:)

Just put it on, tune it and forget about it......go hunt.

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turtleshell - I use right helical and love it. It seems feathers hold up better but the plastic does just fine. Back when I used a Bodoodle Pro I still changed vanes out. If you shoot any at all you will wear out vanes one way or another.

The WB is no different than any other rest in that you need to tune your bow for best performance. It is different in that it is more forgiving if tuning is not at its best. As far as noise, yes, I've gotten noise from mine (yes, I have the correct size biscuit). Using xx78 Superslams I got some pretty good noise. I waxed the alums and it seemed to get rid of the noise but I ended up going to Beman ICS Hunter Elites and get zero noise. If you shoot alums it might be a problem. I love my SS's but I can't complain about the Bemans therefore no problem for me.

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I need help. I just bought a new bow (xt) and had the biscuit put on it. I didn't exactly like the way it was put on, so I remounted it. Well I have had the bow for 4 days and have shot it about 6 hours worth. My brand new vains look like they are years old. They are wrinkled up from end to end. Every vain is wrinkled. Also, I noticed the arrows themselves are getting scuffed up. So from previous posts it appears that my bow is out of tune and possibly badly out of tune. If it were out of tune, would all the vanes be damaged or only some of them? Can I tune it in with the wrinkled vains? If so, where do I start? I did see the arrows fishtailing the past two days, but there was a strong cross wind.

Additional info: Carbon arrows, 4 inch vanes, Large WB.

thanks for the help

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If you are only getting damage on some of your arrows and not others then I would check the arrow nock rotations. Most if not all of the ICS style carbons on the market are compression fit and can be rotated for proper "clearance" or alignment in this case. If you are only getting fletching wear on some arrows and not others then it may be because of fletching alignment. However, the bow probably is out of proper center shot and nock height alignment if you are getting significant wear on most if not all of your vanes.

I do not personally shoot a WB but I have set up hundreds if not thousands for customers down at the shop. They are inarguably the most popular hunting rest available at the shop and there is a decent selection. Folks like the simplicity, low noise levels (with the carbons in stock), and foolproofness of the rest. Price isn't that bad either when you compare it to some of the other models/styles on the market.

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All my vanes are getting trashed uniformly. At this rate, I will be refletching every week.

How do I align center shot? I thought about aligning the center of the biscuit hole with the string and the center of the limbs, then I realized that the string is centered on the top lim and off set on the lower.

Now knock height: What is the proper position? My old setup (tm hunter) was having the knock point 1/8 inch above square on the sting.

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The best way to get center shot is take your bow to a proshop. They should have a laser device used to get centershot. This will put you on the right path. Go to eastons website, they have a guided on how to tune tour bow. It works great!