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RE: Biscuit vs open rests
A friend of mine uses one and I was just looking at replacing mine. Maybe WB? The reason I want a new one is that mine is a little noisy. It was 'affordable at the time and shot wellenoughbut I want as much silence as I can especially when I am in the middle of my draw. Anyone have a solution to my noise, are WB quiet, what is a quiet rest? My carbon arrows sound like someone is blowing on a strw, deer spook.
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RE: Biscuit vs open rests
I use an open rest, but good friend uses theW/B here is a TECH TIP in a HUNTING loop, but armor all greatly reduces friction both in the arrow contact and of course the flech contact, it is suposed to dry odorless, but what are our noses to a white tail. still works well for him..
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RE: Biscuit vs open rests
ORIGINAL: ghemry No doubt drop away rest are more accurate. Can you prove that? Just a side note for any and all of the people who have posted about a WB wearing their vanes down on their arrows. I would advise you to re-check the setup of your WB (and bow) If you are using a newer WB you should not be getting vane damage. I have been shooting a WB for 3 years now and my vanes are just fine. Look closely at your WB ring (around the bristles) I am willing to bet you will see scrapes where your vanes are contacting the outer disc..........either that or you are shooting a newer WB and don't have the cock vane up on your arrows causing one or more vanes to drag through the stiff lower black bristles. I did a nice little experiment with pics in the tech forum last year I think with arrows shot through my biscuit setup pefectly and a little out of tune......and WAY out of tune. The pefect setup showed no vane wear......the little off setup produced mild wear (that would build up over time) and the WAY off tune setup actually tore a vane off within 10 shots. The disc is what wears vanes down on WB in the vast majority of cases IMO........this can be easily fixed and will result in better accuracy as well. |
RE: Biscuit vs open rests
ORIGINAL: atlasman ORIGINAL: ghemry No doubt drop away rest are more accurate. Can you prove that? Just a side note for any and all of the people who have posted about a WB wearing their vanes down on their arrows. I would advise you to re-check the setup of your WB (and bow) If you are using a newer WB you should not be getting vane damage. I have been shooting a WB for 3 years now and my vanes are just fine. Look closely at your WB ring (around the bristles) I am willing to bet you will see scrapes where your vanes are contacting the outer disc..........either that or you are shooting a newer WB and don't have the cock vane up on your arrows causing one or more vanes to drag through the stiff lower black bristles. I did a nice little experiment with pics in the tech forum last year I think with arrows shot through my biscuit setup pefectly and a little out of tune......and WAY out of tune. The pefect setup showed no vane wear......the little off setup produced mild wear (that would build up over time) and the WAY off tune setup actually tore a vane off within 10 shots. The disc is what wears vanes down on WB in the vast majority of cases IMO........this can be easily fixed and will result in better accuracy as well. gonna have to take a look at mine, though I use fletch and I think it just real feathers. |
RE: Biscuit vs open rests
Agree with atlasman. If you are getting severe vane damage, more than likely the setup is not tuned. Thats the tricky part with a WB. You can be out of tune and the biscuit will straighten the arrow flight out enough to get pretty good groups. The severity of vane damage is usually a pretty good indication of how bad its out of tune. As far as speed, its not enough to notice. Plus, aren't you losing about the same speed by tying a string to the cable? One last thing that makes me laugh - I see a lot of people argue that the less moving parts the less chance of something failing when talking about mechanical blades but then turn around and try to say how probably a contraption with more moving parts than anything sold for a bow is better than the most simple. I'm sure drop-aways are good but so is a WB.
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RE: Biscuit vs open rests
I love my WB but am curious to know if anyone shoots a helical through it and if so any problems? I have been shooting bohnning vane slight offset but had some arrows made up with feathers, some right helical and some offset just to see how they shoot. I love the way feathers look and hope they hold up well with the WB. If so I'll be doing all my arrows with feathers and R helical, if not I want to at least fletch them up with R helical vanes. Any input is welcome
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RE: Biscuit vs open rests
I shoot RH helical fletched blazers through my delux model with no damage at all to the vanes. I have been shooting one particular test arrow repeatedly and now have over 150 shots on it with absolutely no damage to the vanes.
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RE: Biscuit vs open rests
I know lots of people who love them. My older brother would be one of those people. I tried one and did not like it. The advantage I found was that it keeps the arrow from falling off the rest, but that same advantage is present in a good old Muzzy zero effects. As you can tell, Muzzy is my favorite rest. But like I said, I know people who love the biscut.
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RE: Biscuit vs open rests
I also fletched up some arrows last year with a right helical to see what happened..........flew great, and no vane damage.
I ALWAYS go for perfect arrow flight when adjusting my bow........that is something else to look for with the WB as well. As said already it will straighten your arrow out for you and result in decent groups but if you notice that arrow fishtailing or porpoising(sp?) or corkscrewing on it's way to the target then you know your arrow is not coming off that string straight. Get it dialed in and you will be amazed at how flat and laser beam straight those arrows will fly. |
RE: Biscuit vs open rests
ORIGINAL: atlasman ORIGINAL: ghemry No doubt drop away rest are more accurate. Can you prove that? The noise a biscuit makes is to loud when I draw the arrow back, I like complete silence. I can get that using a drop away, which is why I use the UltraRest. Accuray is key, but it has to be quiet, I know some guys put some felt on biscuits and get them very quiet. What ever works for you and what you want. When I am talking about noise I am trying to shoot a mature whitetail, not fawns. Older deer do not look up in a tree when they here a noise(90% time) they run. Younger deer look up and go what the heck is that? When you choose a rest take all these factors, I do not care what rest you use if you hold steady and pull the trigger smooth. The arrow WILL GO where you Aim 100% time Side note I am a moron, I see the post is about open rest, not drop-away. Ignore my more accurate comment!! |
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