KE enough?
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Is there any chart that shows the required KE to harvest different animals ethicly, or any thing like that? I'll be shooting 29" @ 60, and I want to hunt bear and deer hunting plus elk, and moose in the future. I know it's enough for deer, but good for Bear, deer, elk, ect? I know shot placement is key.
Another thing is i'm not sure if I want to go with 50/60 or 60/70. I'm 16 and I am about to get a new bow. I have my old one and its set at like 45, and I can pull it back eaisly enough, I just dont want to get a 60/70 and not be able to pull back 60. I was shooting a 53 with out struggling too much yesterday.
So generally speaking should a bow at 29"/60 be able to kill most animals I said?
Thank you, and I know this is asked a lot but this is going to be a big purchase and I don't want to mess it up. Only took me 6 months to save up for it [&:]
Another thing is i'm not sure if I want to go with 50/60 or 60/70. I'm 16 and I am about to get a new bow. I have my old one and its set at like 45, and I can pull it back eaisly enough, I just dont want to get a 60/70 and not be able to pull back 60. I was shooting a 53 with out struggling too much yesterday.
So generally speaking should a bow at 29"/60 be able to kill most animals I said?
Thank you, and I know this is asked a lot but this is going to be a big purchase and I don't want to mess it up. Only took me 6 months to save up for it [&:]
#2
Go with the 60/70, its not as hard as you think with all the new technology they have. Of course, go to your local shop and draw back some different bows and see which one feels comfortable to you. Either bow will have enough energy to take anything you want in north america as long as you have the right arrow/poundage/bow/etc combination.
#3
60 lbs is plenty for anything in north america just know your limits and be discipline enough to stick to them. don't be tempted to shoot beyond them.
go to a proshop and try different #bows if you can shoot a 60-70#bow get one or get the 50-60# bow for now and upgrade in a couple of years. don't shout 60#if its to tough. you'll shoot better with whats comfortable.
go to a proshop and try different #bows if you can shoot a 60-70#bow get one or get the 50-60# bow for now and upgrade in a couple of years. don't shout 60#if its to tough. you'll shoot better with whats comfortable.
#4
Like the others have said, go to a proshop and try as many different bows as you can. This will give you more information than anyone on here could. Shoot them all, decide what you like, and what you don't.
Remember to ask as many questions as you can....thats the best way to learn.
A 50/60 lb bow will do the job for just about anything in America, but you MUST know the limitations of you body/equipment. A 60/70 will give you the chance to expand your effective range, but it is truely up to you.
I don't know anything about your build, but I'll give you my stats to kind of give you an idea from somebody thats close to you.
-I am 17 years old, 5'11" and 170 lbs. I wouldn't consider myself exceptionally strong, but then again I'm not weak either...I guessslightly above average is a good term. I pull a 29.5" draw at 72 lbs. I can shoot this bow all day long without a whole lot of trouble.
I would believe that you could buy the 60/70 lb bow and still be ok. Depending on your exact set-up, most bow's weight range goes above and below the 60-70 range. My bow is 60-70, but I pull 72. I'm sure it could also be dropped down to 58 or so if someone was using it to build up.
The best advise I can give you is go to a proshop and try out some bows. That will be the best way to figure out what you can or can not do. Let us know if you have any other questions....I'm sure somebody will be able to help you out.
Good luck...let us know how it turns out.
Remember to ask as many questions as you can....thats the best way to learn.
A 50/60 lb bow will do the job for just about anything in America, but you MUST know the limitations of you body/equipment. A 60/70 will give you the chance to expand your effective range, but it is truely up to you.
I don't know anything about your build, but I'll give you my stats to kind of give you an idea from somebody thats close to you.
-I am 17 years old, 5'11" and 170 lbs. I wouldn't consider myself exceptionally strong, but then again I'm not weak either...I guessslightly above average is a good term. I pull a 29.5" draw at 72 lbs. I can shoot this bow all day long without a whole lot of trouble.
I would believe that you could buy the 60/70 lb bow and still be ok. Depending on your exact set-up, most bow's weight range goes above and below the 60-70 range. My bow is 60-70, but I pull 72. I'm sure it could also be dropped down to 58 or so if someone was using it to build up.
The best advise I can give you is go to a proshop and try out some bows. That will be the best way to figure out what you can or can not do. Let us know if you have any other questions....I'm sure somebody will be able to help you out.
Good luck...let us know how it turns out.
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Thanks for all the help guys. I did go to the proshops to test out some bows, but lemme say I don't like these guys at all. I'll give a little story.
About 4 years ago I went to get a bow. After some shopping around I got the PSE Nova (Keep in mind I was 11/12). I waited while they set it up and it took like a week. I got it and shot it. First shot OFF THE TARGET from 10 yards. I know I probably didn't have the greatest form but they bow I had from Sports Authority before that shot better. I went to the guy and said somthing's wrong. He took it and looked at it. He was like No, it's fine. I go back, same thing. The guy wouldn't watch for s*** and I had to pay them to fix it.
Granted they just charged me not so much to fix it, but that isn't the point. How ridiculous is that? It really wasn't that good after anyway, so that's basicly why I stopped. Now I think i'm just gonna go with either the CSS Swampmaster, or Bowtech Liberty from Hunters Friend.
And .308, i'm about the same size of you. I think I'll go with the 60.
About 4 years ago I went to get a bow. After some shopping around I got the PSE Nova (Keep in mind I was 11/12). I waited while they set it up and it took like a week. I got it and shot it. First shot OFF THE TARGET from 10 yards. I know I probably didn't have the greatest form but they bow I had from Sports Authority before that shot better. I went to the guy and said somthing's wrong. He took it and looked at it. He was like No, it's fine. I go back, same thing. The guy wouldn't watch for s*** and I had to pay them to fix it.
Granted they just charged me not so much to fix it, but that isn't the point. How ridiculous is that? It really wasn't that good after anyway, so that's basicly why I stopped. Now I think i'm just gonna go with either the CSS Swampmaster, or Bowtech Liberty from Hunters Friend.
And .308, i'm about the same size of you. I think I'll go with the 60.
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NY, Colorado requires a minimum of 35 pounds of draw weight to legally hunt deer, elk and moose. You are well armed with a 60 pound bow. The big thing you gotta remember is to use a relatively heavy arrow with a good fixed blade head to get the most out of your bows stored energy and to maximize penetration.
A 60 pound bow will EASILY kill anything that you will hunt on this continent. Regardless of how much weight you are pulling you gotta get it into the vitals. It's not like a bullet were you get a hydrostatic shock effect that makes up for some marginal hits.
You gotta remember that people have been killing the largest of game animals with 50 and 60 pound bows for dacades when bows were muuuuuuuuch slower and muuuuuuuch less efficient. Todays bows are leaps and bounds better at accelerating any weight arrow than they were just 10 - 15 years ago.
When you go shop for bows sit flat on the floor with your legs crossed and draw the bow straight back with out lifting it to the sky. If you can do this you are not over bowed. If you can't then drop the weight down until you can and then take another half turn for good measure.
A 60 pound bow will EASILY kill anything that you will hunt on this continent. Regardless of how much weight you are pulling you gotta get it into the vitals. It's not like a bullet were you get a hydrostatic shock effect that makes up for some marginal hits.
You gotta remember that people have been killing the largest of game animals with 50 and 60 pound bows for dacades when bows were muuuuuuuuch slower and muuuuuuuch less efficient. Todays bows are leaps and bounds better at accelerating any weight arrow than they were just 10 - 15 years ago.
When you go shop for bows sit flat on the floor with your legs crossed and draw the bow straight back with out lifting it to the sky. If you can do this you are not over bowed. If you can't then drop the weight down until you can and then take another half turn for good measure.
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Thanks alot big bulls, I just drew my 45 lb bow doing what you said and didn't have to move it up at all. I think I'll go with the 60/70, of course I'll be goign somewhere to make sure.
Also what grain arrow/broadhead would be best for whiletails/black bear. And slicktricks, worth the hype?

Also what grain arrow/broadhead would be best for whiletails/black bear. And slicktricks, worth the hype?

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Also what grain arrow/broadhead would be best for whiletails/black bear.
I personally prefer 450 - 500 grains finished arrow weight for everything. It gives me good speed and a good quiet bow. I find this weight range to be a very good compromise for me shooting 70 pounds and 30" draw length.
And slicktricks, worth the hype?


