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live2hunt009 02-05-2006 08:32 PM

RE: JIMMY HOUSTON PETITION
 
I totally agree with you mudd dawg i dont wanna become someone who goes out and hunts jus to get paid is that really wut huntin is about? no way. I hunt because i love it plain and simple.

mudd_dawg 02-07-2006 08:54 AM

RE: JIMMY HOUSTON PETITION
 
the petition has been removed beacuse i missed an e-mail from the hosting site asking for more info i got them the info this morning and should be back up before the end of the day

thanks Jim

bearklr 02-07-2006 11:50 AM

RE: JIMMY HOUSTON PETITION
 
Man NYBH ! Did you register and post on Jimmy's website? If so I guess this whole issue has you...oh, I would say more than a little ticked.:D:D:D:D

mudd_dawg 02-07-2006 01:01 PM

RE: JIMMY HOUSTON PETITION
 
i just wanted you all to know that Jimmy posted an open letter to everyone on his web site, i am not saying its the truth or that it should change the way any of you feel but you should all atleast read it.It may be to little to late but you can atleast read it and see what you think.

www.jimmyhouston.com

cameronmclain 02-07-2006 01:06 PM

RE: JIMMY HOUSTON PETITION
 

ORIGINAL: BOWFANATIC

I agree with Arthur on this one.

I'll sign the petition when someone can show proof that he used any footage from that place in any of his hunting videos.
Is it possible that he chose not to shoot because he knew it was wrong?
For now ,(for me anyway)he's only guilty of being stupid enough to step behind that fence to begin with.
I'd really like to hear his side of the story before hanging the man.


He may not have used this video to put in one of his "hunting" videos. But I don't think that's the point. The point is that a true ethical sportsman would never have even gotten into the fence, climbed the tree, drawn the bow, etc. He can't decide AFTER he shoots something that he shouldn't have. I don't want to hear his side of the story. The video tells it all. Ifhe can come up with an excuse for that then he's full of crap.

mudd_dawg 02-07-2006 10:39 PM

RE: JIMMY HOUSTON PETITION
 
the petition is back up and running before any of you sign it you should go to www.jimmyhouston.com and read the letters posted by him and his wife

thanks Jim

BOWFANATIC 02-08-2006 12:00 AM

RE: JIMMY HOUSTON PETITION
 

He may not have used this video to put in one of his "hunting" videos. But I don't think that's the point.
This petition is to have all networks ban his videos , correct? Sure as hell is "the point".


The point is that a true ethical sportsman would never have even gotten into the fence, climbed the tree, drawn the bow, etc.
In my own definition (and apparently yours) of "true ethical sportsman" , I agree 100% with you. However , if you wish to ban all hunting videos that are hosted by someone who hunted behind a fence at one time or another , you can start by picking up your collection of hunting videos and throwing 90% of them in the trash.

For those who would like to hear his side of the story.....





Letter from Jimmy Houston
« on: February 07, 2006, 02:15:01 PM »[/align]

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During the first week of February, we received a message from Kyle Crawford about a vicious attack against Mothwing and me by the National Wildlife Federation, PETA and "concerned" hunters.

I asked Kyle to get me the numbers of those who sent e-mails and I would call them. I called every number he gave me on Friday, February 3. Naturally several of the numbers were probably PETA affiliated, some were not available or didn't answer, but I did get to talk to eight or ten actual hunters. I didn't ask these guys to alter their opinion or their passion. I simply wanted them to know the facts from me.

First, I want to apologize to any hunter or non-hunter who has been personally hurt or damaged by my deer hunt at Bellars. The primary inference on the video produced by the National Wildlife Federation is that I shot or was hunting drugged deer and that I
was doing it in a 3-6 acre pen.

1. The Federal Drug Administration asked me for three packages of the meat to test for drugs. I had no idea what drugs they were testing for - I actually thought they might be looking for a steroid maybe used in raising big deer. They tested the meat and found no drugs. Then they asked me if I would give them the rest of the meat. I voluntarily did this and this meat was also tested. I specifically asked the FDA agent at the trial if any drugs were found in my meat and he told me NO-there was none. By the
way, we had already eaten some of the meat and it was perfectly ok.

2. I was not hunting in a 3-6 acre pen. We were hunting in a high-fenced area and the stand that they had me in was within 10 yards of a fence. This fence went over the hill and we could not see how far it went. As I testified in the trial, we went over the hill and never did reach the other end of the high fence. There is no way I could estimate the size of the area. It could be 50 acres, it could be 500 acres. The entire high fence area, as I was told was 1200 acres, but, yes, there were section fences. The fence that is seen on the video is the same fence we were beside. There is video shot in one direction and video shot in the other
direction of the same fence. Bear in mind that the camera was in a different stand than the one I was in. I got in this tree stand at 7AM on this morning and shot the deer at 11:10. That is over 4 hours. It was 20 degrees.

3. Russ Bellar did come out and check on us around 9:00AM. We saw several deer; we even saw a deer go under the fence. The buck I shot was a 6 ½ or 7 ½ year old buck and was chasing a doe. There were literally hundreds of deer on Bellars place. At the time, nothing seemed unusual other than it was really cold. I completely agree with all hunters about shooting drugged deer in pens. This is wrong. I share your same passion and have spent my entire life hunting and have worked diligently to promote,
protect and preserve this great heritage.

Have I ever broken a law or been put in an awkward position? Of course. Should I be singled out and crucified for hunting at Bellars where hundreds of others have hunted? I don't believe so.

From the very first day I was contacted by the Federal Wildlife Department, I have cooperated fully and truthfully. I was always called "a witness and or a victim" by the prosecution and I did testify for the state. This is indeed very hurtful when you have given your entire life to the promotion and betterment of hunting and fishing.

We see on television every day where individuals attack, blow up, kill and maim people all over the world. We call these folks terrorists and wonder how anyone could develop that much hate. Yet with a few seconds of produced video, hate has welled up so much in some as to want to destroy me, our television show, and any company we are involved with.

Again, if I have hurt anyone, I apologize and ask your forgiveness.

By the way, we did not air that hunt on television and never portrayed any pictures to anyone as fair chase, high fence or otherwise. I just learned this week that the picture was on some websites and asked that it be removed. We decided not air the hunt when we learned there was some controversy surrounding Bellars Place.

Yes, had we known then what we know not, we would not have hunted there but that's why hindsight is 20-20. Was it wrong for me to hunt there? Absolutely!

Obviously this letter won't satisfy everyone, particularly those anti-hunters whose desire is to keep this on the front burners and watch Jimmy burn. They love nothing more than making hunters attack hunters. But, to the real hunters who read this, I apologize for any hurt or disappointment I have caused you.

Good hunting, good fishing and May God Bless!

Best Personal Regards,


"A hundred years from now it will not matter what kind of car I drove, how big my bank account was..but that I was important in the life of a child"[/align]

NY Bowhunter 02-08-2006 08:04 AM

RE: JIMMY HOUSTON PETITION
 

Man NYBH ! Did you register and post on Jimmy's website? If so I guess this whole issue has you...oh, I would say more than a little ticked.
[:-]:eek:Just a tad bit. I think what irritates me most (among 100 other things that make me want to puke) is when he is sitting there watching the buck bounce back and forth off the fence. Then he grunts a few times, starts to chuckle and mumbles some comment about the buck not stopping to his cameraman while laughing. Call me crazy but I don't see what is so funny about that scene.[:@]

As far as the letter goes......... he (his lawyers/PR people) shouldn't have wasted their time. Brings up more questions than answers IMO.

JLmoore1956 02-08-2006 08:46 AM

RE: JIMMY HOUSTON PETITION
 
well if that is how he does business certainly doesn't need to be on TV! [:@]

plottman 02-11-2006 09:42 PM

RE: JIMMY HOUSTON PETITION
 
I know Russ Bellar personally, from the coonhunting world. He was one of the biggest names in "Professional Coon Hunting".

I don't buy Jimmy's explination at all.

Think about it, if he saw nothing out of the ordinary going on why would the prosecutors have him testify in court? People aren't subpoenad for the fun of it.


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