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i love it that hunters dont just stand around and let crap like this stand. this just goes to show that if something bigger happened like bann on gun or something. we would have a ton of guys/gals helping also. i will be signing the petition as soon as i get home from work but wanted to let you guys know i and many others are in full suport and i personally tickled to death to see so many getting involved. great job!!!

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Forget about Jimmy Houston,never a big fan.When I saw these video's it honestly made my blood boil. I hope the guy running this operation gets his just desserts. This is the kind of crap that Peta wacko's pray for every night before they go to bed.

Shane

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Ain't nobody sticking up for him. But, IMO,SOMEBODY needs to point out a few things.

I dofind it reasonably curious that there were at least 50 other 'customers', some of whom were at leastas high profile - including one quarterback for the Miami Dolphins -but nobody's putting up a petition against them. Also, you guys have a real feeding frenzy going on over someone who's not around to defend himself. I think assassinating somebody without hearing his side of the story is pretty darn shameful.

Yeah, the whole operation stinks to high heaven. It's beyond disgusting. Should never have happened. But, honestly, I seeit as nothing but a grotesque overexaggeration of the narcissistic mindset of a whole lot of people these days. Every one ofus are, or has been,guilty to some degree.

Faster bows, easier accuracy, scentblocking clothes, sex lures, decoys, buy, buy, buy... All in the name of less work and more results. These guyssimply took things to the next level and bought the animal. I AM gratified to see there actually is a line most of you won't cross though.

Until I have a chance to hear the whole story, from BOTH sides, you can keep your petition.

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I couldn't view the videos, only one of them, the one where the deer is stumbling toward the gun stand and then the guy shoots him. Looked like a bad angle on top of things. It all looks pretty disgusting and I hope those who should be are justly punished. As far as JH, I'm going to have to agree with Arthur. Anybody see the movie "The Oxbow Incident". It had Dana Andrews in it and, if memory serves, Harry Morgan, among others. Pretty good movie. Maybe JH should be flogged but I think you need a little more evidence and facts before you go off hanging somebody. So, from the posts here, I assume a lot of you don't like high fences and would never hunt a high fenced area. IMO, its not that far off.

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Yeah, what was he doing in a fenced in area with that big deer. None of those other guys have a show on TV. Tell us what a "sportsman" he was! Key word there is was!!! Sell products to the public making them think he is a stand up guy. There are a lot of guys doing it right, and not taking short cuts.

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d parsons, you'll be much better off in life if you never read another word dave nowlin writes. and never, ever, ever, try any of his suggestions for tuning a bow.

and art, the problem isn't that he's a celeb, its that he's a celeb 'sportsman', and we expect better than that.

brooks and dunn, please,if i ever buy a brooks and dunn album i hopesomeone just shoots me right there on the spot.

(i don't like country music, but that's ok, you probably wouldn't like what i listen to)

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There have been other posts about ol jimmy here before. He is a KNOWN SLIMEBALL!!!!!! If there is justice he should end up shoveling **** at the dogtRACK. Just like some others...... brooks & dunn, BROCK RAY, dave watson and other semi celebrity folk (the nascar guy--what's his name--dallenbach). The evidence is overwhelming. Petitions can't hurt. One at a time.

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LOSER SCUM SLOB TRAILOR TRASH

He and his actions are undefendable.....period!!!!!

He and the like should be flogged!!![:@]

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I agree that this style of killing (I could never use the word hunting) is wrong, but JH is probably not the only man to have done this for film.I definately don't think he is smart enough to come up with that idea on his own. These shows are not about hunting or fishing,they are about money.As long as people like us go buy the products advertized on these shows you won't stop anything.

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[quote]ORIGINAL: gibblet

d parsons, you'll be much better off in life if you never read another word dave nowlin writes. and never, ever, ever, try any of his suggestions for tuning a bow.


I can be the judge of my own things in life! I was not talking about tunning a bow to begin with. All I was trying to show was that any one that comes in and throws his weight around to do something to benifit hisself IS WORTHLESS in my book!As I said before this is showing CHARACTER!!

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I pretty much gave up on Jimmy whenhe got arrested in Illinois a couple years back. He shot a nice buck with his bow and used a firearm tagto tag it.

Sorry when your a person in his position you need to watch your actions. And IMO he just dug his own grave..............

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I agree with Arthur on this one.

I'll sign the petition when someone can show proof that he used any footage from that place in any of his hunting videos.
Is it possible that he chose not to shoot because he knew it was wrong?
For now ,(for me anyway)he's only guilty of being stupid enough to step behind that fence to begin with.
I'd really like to hear his side of the story before hanging the man.

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that's reasonable bowfanatic, and from the person who's first post was here to defend his drinking, i think he may know about this - so come on out and tell us.

and he did step behind that fence and then climb the tree, and was looking for the shot. when he stepped through that gate the crime was already committed, and he'd made the decision in his mind - and that's what is so sick about it. he got off by testifying, he rolled because he was caught on tape to save his own butt. so on top of everything else - he's a rat.

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he did not use the video for any show as far as i know but he did post the pictures on his web site saying it was a fair chase hunt and before he took the picture off his web site yesterday you could see it was in a open field.not the pen where it was shot,that tells me that if he can lie to his di-hard fans and try and fool them into thinking it was a fair chase hunt then if given the chance he would have tried to do the same to the general public.He knows what he did is wrong and he is calling "us" the guys that have talked to his sponsors trying to cover his own bum. He claims that he was in a 160 acre pen and not a 3 acre pen" a pen is a pen" no matter the size.He claims the video we have all seen has been tampered with and he has video to prove it, yet he said he will not let anyone view it because someone will find a way to twist it all around. Thses are words that came right from his mouth !!!

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You lost me here.[&:]There is no video of him actually shooting a deer in this pen. Apparently he never used any footage from this place for any hunting videos , yet you started a petition to ban any and all of his hunting videos from being televised. So in essence , your trying to ban his livelyhood because he made some poor decisions , and you feel he gives hunters a bad name.
Is that correct?
If it is , in all fairness , you should include a list of many others who "represent" us hunters by way of hunting videos , and even their own hunting shows.

You said he had pictures of a deer shot ,"in a field" ,on his web site. Was it the same buck from the video?

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Jimmy Houston was busted in Pike County Illinois in the fall of 1999 for shooting a deer before he purchased a permit. He was hunting with an outfitter. Case 1999CV126 DEER HUNTING PERMIT VIOLATION Class B Misdemeanor, he plead guilty and paid a $75 fine.

http://www.judici.com/courts/cases/case_information.jsp?court=IL075015J&ocl=IL075 015J,1999CV126,IL075015JL1999CV126D1

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i my memory serves me right he has 3 violations(could be more though)in illinois alone. including the one1sagittariusposted

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For God's sake...watch the freakin' video! He is laughing in a stand to the cameraman as other guys keep chasing the drugged deer back and forth under his stand...quit swingin' from his nutz and cut them off!!!!

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where is the forum that tells the story?

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i signed it....what a disgrace to all of us real hunters...he should be banned for life.

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The funny thing is that when Jimmy is no longer on the air, you people will believe that you had something to do with it.lol. Jimmy has already dug his own grave A YEAR AGO.. Your petition is like beating a dead dog.. Maybe you could start a new post about the Clinton scandal, I don't think it was beat enough.. Or how about we bring up something allyou people have done wrong.. Oh yeah you are all perfect little do gooders. Nobody wants the anti's to here about this, but you people are drawing all the attention to it.. Daaa

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We have to stand up and say enough, we have to distants ourselves from people like Houston. We have to show non-hunters, there are ethical hunters and people like Jimmy Houston. We have to lead the fight against the Jimmy Houstons.

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its not about beating a dead dog and even if the petition has nothing to do with it the point will be made that us as hunter will not stand for this kind of behavor.Yes he dug his own grave but its been long enough and yet he still has a show, he still has sponsors and is still out there representing us as hunters.i will not stop until he can no longer do that if that makes me a bad person in your eyes so be it i can sleep just fine at night knowing you do not agree with me

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[quote]ORIGINAL: BOWFANATIC

You lost me here.[&:]There is no video of him actually shooting a deer in this pen. Apparently he never used any footage from this place for any hunting videos , yet you started a petition to ban any and all of his hunting videos from being televised. So in essence , your trying to ban his livelyhood because he made some poor decisions , and you feel he gives hunters a bad name.
Is that correct?
If it is , in all fairness , you should include a list of many others who "represent" us hunters by way of hunting videos , and even their own hunting shows.

You said he had pictures of a deer shot ,"in a field" ,on his web site. Was it the same buck from the video?

First your wrong there is video of him shooting the buck in a pen and he has even admitted to that. he claims the pen was 160 acre pen and not a 3 acre pen.He claims the video we have all seen was tampered with tho, even if that is the case he was still wrong to climb into that stand and watched thatbuck run into a fence before he shot it all with a smile on his face..I am trying to ban his livelyhood because he lied to everyone. yes the picture of the buck he shot at the bellar farm where posted on his web site until yesterday,where he told all his fans that it was a fair chase hunt. the reason it upsets me the most is he is a representative of all of us hunters. we have enough trouble with law makers and alot of anti hunting groups as it is and if we do not stand up for ourselves then we will just be included with the small group of so called hunter like him. yes there are other guys that have shows that i am sure have done things like this and maybe worse but until i see them on video doing it or there is some kind of proof we can do nothing but sit back and hope we never hear or see it.I am not here to tell anyone to sign the petition i am just asking them to look at the evidence and make the choice they feel is right.I could care less if i was the only one to sign it i still would have started it just so i knew i was doing some thing i belived in and tried my best to make a difference.

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I watched "the freakin video"!:eek:I still didn't see him shoot anything! You want me to cut his nuts off for doing something stupid?That's rich! I don't agree with him even stepping behind that fenced operation , but I'm not gonnapiss and moanabout it to his sponsors. I'll take the simple approach , I wont watch his shows or buy his videos. If it offends me that much I wont patronize his sponsors either.
If I was gonna start "cutting nuts off" from every yahoo I felt gave hunters a bad name , I'dhave hundreds of petitions going.
Personally , I feel any hunting behind fences (any size)makes us look stupid. Shall we start another petition?I also feel baiting is cheating (with or without a fence)and makes us look stupid. The list of petitions is getting bigger isn't it?

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Those video clips weredisgusting. It makes me proud to have only killed one deer since 1999!

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then don't sign it, that simple.

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i think when he fishes hes just on HUGE ponds not lakes.. but anyway i met him last year and he was jerk when i tried to talk to him

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im missing something what did brooks and dunn do not a big fan i just have not heard

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I could only get 1 of the videos to play and it would be nice to at least hear JH explain or more info BUT.... I try to place myself in that position and find it hard to do. As an outdoorsman and hunter, its hard to imagine he didn't know what was going on. At the least I would think he is guilty of about as poor judgement as a hunter could have and thats magnified by the fact he makes his living at it and is out there in front of people. Really a shame.

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For those beating the drum and crying he didnt shoot anything. He was trying to. Why do I say that? He was standing up in his stand, arrow knocked, and his trigger on the bow. When the Buck ran under his stand he bleated 2 or 3 times trying to stop it, then he looked at his camera man and laughed then said it just wont stop. He was trying to stop the deer for a shot.

I always liked Jimmy, but he just lost a fan in me.

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Ronnie dunn from brooks & dunn was invited there to hunt, he also shot a buck in the same pen as jimmy houston did the 160 acre pen.

he hunted with out a lic. before the court case even started he left a message on his fans site saying he was sorry he got involved with the whole thing.I am not sure if i belive it or not but he claimed it was the first time he had ever been deer hunting and did not know better at the time.does that make him any better maybe maybe not.he is not a spokesmen for of hunters and he said he was sorry long before this all started atleast he had the grapefruits to admit he messed up and everything. i do not really care that much for him or his music and yes i think he is a dirt ball for going to the place,but he is not out there telling everyone he shot the deer in a fair chase hunt and right from the start he told everyone he picked the deer out of a group of bucks and said thats the one i want on my wall.better then jimmy hell no

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I guess the way I see it is this isn't hunting, I think we all agee on that issue.

But if your going to "sink JH's boat" I think your aiming too low. I believe some of you would be shocked toknow how many of the videos you have watched were staged. There are so many big names out there that are guilty of this it isnt even funny; especially in the early years of making outdoor videos.

Even educational documentary's have not gone unscathed. Currently the name escapes me of a nationally know outdoorsman that made numerous documentaries for the likes of National Geographic, Nature, etc.. He was exposed for using drugged animals in his shows. Shoot, even Marlin Perkins (Wild Kingdom) was almost taken out by a drugged python one time. A lot of you guys are to young to remember that show but it use to be a weekly network TV show.

Of course the two mentioned above were not hunting shows, but when you dig all of the mud out and come to the bottom of the well, you will find the same motivating factor that isa common thread in each of thesecases - money.

I am no fan of Mr. Houstonbut all of this "smack talk" concerning his transgressionI find interesting. If your going to throw Jimmy Houston under the bus for committinga forgery with such enthusiasm, you better include a few more names on your petition, some that I have seen praised on this very forum.

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I am closely associated with a company that makes spring Turkey hunting videos, and they are in fact filmed in the wild, on public land. Also there is a Ranch called dream mountain that invitedthem to film deer hunts on their property in exchange for sponcership, they declined. Instead they shoot average fair chase bucks.

But I have also heard of Big Names other than Huston doing this. In fact the dream mountain ranch had a frequent vititor that has a very impressive wall of Buck Mounts, and is Initals are R.R.

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all these guys on TV are "pro hunters". 75% of the guys making videos are just good shooters, thats it. they drive to a high fence ranch hand the guys some money and the guide sits him in a tree right where the deer have been seen for the last 2 months and they film the shot. this is just taking it one step further. its just disgusting.

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I got an email from Mothwing camo that Mr. Houston was going to call me personally and explain the situation. We'll see if that happens.

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do you have 3 way;)it wont be long distance either

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I cant belive JH was doing that. I remember watching his shows a little kid and always wanting to fish and hunt with him. Now i dont even want to here his name. He is a disgrace to to all sportsmans and is ruinging something that all of us love.

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soon he will be like another one time hunting cleb Noel Feather.

You never hear his name anymore and at one time you could not talk about deer hunting with out dropping his name.

i could care less about watching pro hunters on tv anyway. i would rather watch the everyday hunters like you and myself. i dont want to watch some guy or girl get paid to take trophy class bucks every time.Heck a doe hunt by the everyday hunter does more for me then this kind of stuff