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Old 01-23-2006 | 08:56 AM
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I checked but it didn't help... there was no reference to Bambi in the credits.
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Old 01-23-2006 | 09:07 AM
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That's interesting, that's not the first time she's done that. If you recall there was a point where she strained so hard to draw her bow she pulled the muscles in her back and couldn't draw it. She started crying, so jay helped her pull it back. I feel bad for her to be honest. She never seems to get it done the right way. She is over-bowed and i've seen it on multiple occasions. If you watch the show a lot and watch her draw in the stand she always seems to be over-bowed. It's bad. I didn't catch the show tonight, but like i said it does not surprise me at all. Interesting post.

I do remember seeing a woman a long time ago try to draw and couldn't and start crying after the buck walked off........I didn't realize it was her.

Wow...........that puts tonights show in even weirder perspective.
I remember that, too! I think it was on a Realtree Monster Bucks video. She tried a few times to draw, but couldn't muster the strength. On the third try she pulled a muscle. Then he helped her pull it back. Once it was back she shot and missed the huge buck from spitting distance. I've seen hundreds of hunts on film, but for some reason that one sticks out in my mind. It really was ridiculous.
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Old 01-23-2006 | 10:37 AM
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My first instinct is to say and feel everything that has previously been posted about this topic. However, knowing that are natural reactions are not always the correct reaction, I looked at it from another angle. I was watching this show last night and my wife was sitting next to my side watching it also. I was pointing out the bow twisting and turning and the reasons behind it to my wife. We also noticed the closer buck ran off just before the shot, so she resorted to taking the buck further out. She probably didn't take the time to correctly range the second buck whichmay have beenthe cause for the high shot placement.

I simply said to my wife, that the woman on TV reminds me of you (meaning my wife). She was confused at first and asked why I said that. I described how beautiful it was to see a woman with such a strong desire to be involved inher husbands hobby and to try her best to support him in all he does, even if that means making a foul of herself to the public eye.Do you think this woman likes crying on TV in front of thousands of viewers? I don't think so, but I do respect that she will endure and keeptrying to be by her husbands side and support him in all he does.

My wife does the same for me and yes there are times when she gets frustrated, but she always wants to be next to me in all I do. Is this something to laugh at?

I would rather have a woman who is next tome and wants to be involved in my hobbythat hasa hard time pullinga bow back VS. a woman who sits at home watchingTV all day or goes shopping at the malls after the payroll hits the bank account.

Let this woman be an example of how great it is to have a wife who stands by your side and will notstop even after crying in front of the world on TV. Where does this desire come from...many places and allot ofit has to do with us as husbands finding ways to motivate them and make it fun for them. Just like what we have to do while gettingour young children involved. If you are meetingyour wife's needs in all other areas of her life,she will more than likely want to meet your needsand for some that may even be to the extreme levels of huntingright next to you. Ask yourself this...are you treating your wife good enough that she would be willing tonot only want to be involved in all you do, but will do it and make mistakes in front of thousands of viewers and still come back for more? What a strong woman she must be.

I'm a big believer of having the right equipment and enough KE to take a animal, so think of this angle for a moment. What if they have learned through experience what the minimum poundage of her bow should be to cleanly kill a deerwhile using her arrows, broadheads, etc. Basically theyhave a bottom line that they will not go below for the sake of the animal. This bottom line happens to be a littledifficult for his wife to meet when the excitment is present.Their reasoning may be that it is better to not be able to pull the bow back, then it would be to have a bow that was easy for her to pull back, but was NOT sufficient enough to apply enough KE to take the deer cleanly.

I would rather my wife not be able to take a shot, VS. her taking a shot with a bow that didn't have what it takes to get the job done right. As far as her shot placement was concerned, that could have happened to any one of us; especially when the closer deer ran off and she changes her target range with all the pressure of the camera rolling.

With the worlds increasinghigh levels of feminist women, women as described above are few and far between and should be looked upon as a treasure, not something to mock and laugh at.
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Old 01-23-2006 | 12:18 PM
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Well i guess it shows were all human, and make some mistakes, even on tv. Nerves help us make them mistakes, some one said she had a hard time pulling the bow back, have any of you been in a stand on a cold day and after a couple of hours with a amimal coming in and not able to pull your bow back i did and read about a few others so whats the big deal. Thats why its called hunting and not killing. Rich
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Old 01-23-2006 | 12:31 PM
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I would rather have a woman who is next tome and wants to be involved in my hobbythat hasa hard time pullinga bow back VS. a woman who sits at home watchingTV all day or goes shopping at the malls after the payroll hits the bank account.
So what you're saying is we're suppose to lower, change, make exceptions to our standards of ethical hunting practices because she's a woman. I don't think Sooooooo. If you're no dang good you don't belong in the woods, wife or not. Practice and become proficient just like we expect our kids to be and you're welcome. You want to go with me, practice up or bring the camera.
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Old 01-23-2006 | 12:51 PM
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Any deer I've ever hunted in "FAIR CHASE" would have been out of there long before she got set. I just have to believe these were pets almost. I checked but it didn't help... there was no reference to Bambi in the credits.
This was a fair chase hunt filmed on the Mussleshell river near Lewistown, Montana. The reason the Whitetails did not run at the dry fired shot. They just do not have much hunting pressure around there.We took two whitetail deer this year in that same general area. Wewalked up to a good rest 80 to 100-yards from them. We were in plain sight & talking to each other.Our deer did not run because theyhad never been hunted before. We both shot & both killed our deer. We were shooting a 300-win mag & a 30-06. The other deer ran out about fifty yards & stopped. They stood there & watched us gut the other two deer. They never did run off. Our deer were killed on private land.Our deer were not in a high fence. They were on a working cattle ranch.Just not enough hunting to make them scared of humans.
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Old 01-23-2006 | 01:29 PM
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As a female bowhunter I truly feel for her. Shame on her though for not speaking up and telling her husband that it was too much weight to pull. More importantly shame on him for ignoring that fact. What kind of professional is he that he doesn't notice his wife's obvious difficulties with the bow. Yes she may be out there trying to support him in his work, but is he being supportive of her? or is he displaying a typical male attitude of "oh she's fine". If she pulled a muscle trying to pull back the bow she was obviously not fine, and I personally am not impressed that he helped her draw it back for his show. Wouldn't a real man have cut the shooting and taken care of his wife instead of making her shoot it anyway?
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Old 01-23-2006 | 01:51 PM
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My first instinct is to say and feel everything that has previously been posted about this topic. However, knowing that are natural reactions are not always the correct reaction, I looked at it from another angle. I was watching this show last night and my wife was sitting next to my side watching it also. I was pointing out the bow twisting and turning and the reasons behind it to my wife. We also noticed the closer buck ran off just before the shot, so she resorted to taking the buck further out. She probably didn't take the time to correctly range the second buck whichmay have beenthe cause for the high shot placement.

I simply said to my wife, that the woman on TV reminds me of you (meaning my wife). She was confused at first and asked why I said that. I described how beautiful it was to see a woman with such a strong desire to be involved inher husbands hobby and to try her best to support him in all he does, even if that means making a foul of herself to the public eye.Do you think this woman likes crying on TV in front of thousands of viewers? I don't think so, but I do respect that she will endure and keeptrying to be by her husbands side and support him in all he does.

My wife does the same for me and yes there are times when she gets frustrated, but she always wants to be next to me in all I do. Is this something to laugh at?

I would rather have a woman who is next tome and wants to be involved in my hobbythat hasa hard time pullinga bow back VS. a woman who sits at home watchingTV all day or goes shopping at the malls after the payroll hits the bank account.

Let this woman be an example of how great it is to have a wife who stands by your side and will notstop even after crying in front of the world on TV. Where does this desire come from...many places and allot ofit has to do with us as husbands finding ways to motivate them and make it fun for them. Just like what we have to do while gettingour young children involved. If you are meetingyour wife's needs in all other areas of her life,she will more than likely want to meet your needsand for some that may even be to the extreme levels of huntingright next to you. Ask yourself this...are you treating your wife good enough that she would be willing tonot only want to be involved in all you do, but will do it and make mistakes in front of thousands of viewers and still come back for more? What a strong woman she must be.

I'm a big believer of having the right equipment and enough KE to take a animal, so think of this angle for a moment. What if they have learned through experience what the minimum poundage of her bow should be to cleanly kill a deerwhile using her arrows, broadheads, etc. Basically theyhave a bottom line that they will not go below for the sake of the animal. This bottom line happens to be a littledifficult for his wife to meet when the excitment is present.Their reasoning may be that it is better to not be able to pull the bow back, then it would be to have a bow that was easy for her to pull back, but was NOT sufficient enough to apply enough KE to take the deer cleanly.

I would rather my wife not be able to take a shot, VS. her taking a shot with a bow that didn't have what it takes to get the job done right. As far as her shot placement was concerned, that could have happened to any one of us; especially when the closer deer ran off and she changes her target range with all the pressure of the camera rolling.

With the worlds increasinghigh levels of feminist women, women as described above are few and far between and should be looked upon as a treasure, not something to mock and laugh at.
First off I am not trying to bash female hunters here. Come on guys. I strongly STRONGLY believe that it's great to see female hunters in the woods. I'm happy to see it. I was simply eluding to the fact that she has had problems in the past. No offense here, but do you know what poundage she draws? I DOUBT IT......One must first take into consideration what poundage she is drawing and if she can back her bow down. If she can she needs to. You don't understand here. You shouldn't put yourself in harms way just to pull a bow back. It's okay to show an example of what not to do. There's nothing wrong with that. We need to take into consideration that it's happened in the past. Maybe something that would work for her is using a "bowfit" exerciser. If she used that for a while she may become stronger and be able to pull the bow back with no problem under pressure. It's a good idea to take into consideration all the angles before assuming that we hate female hunters or don't think they should be in the stand because they just can't get it done. The fact is there are lots of female hunters that get it done, and I've seen Tammy Gregory get it done on lots of occasions. But at the same time most of the times she has gotten the job done it's been with lots of trouble. I believe she can do it fine and get the job done, but she may want to consider using a arm exerciser, or if possible backing the poundage down. Down start bashing on people just cause you think we're bashing. Read things carefully from now on please.
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Old 01-23-2006 | 01:53 PM
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I would rather have a woman who is next tome and wants to be involved in my hobbythat hasa hard time pullinga bow back VS. a woman who sits at home watchingTV all day or goes shopping at the malls after the payroll hits the bank account.
So what you're saying is we're suppose to lower, change, make exceptions to our standards of ethical hunting practices because she's a woman. I don't think Sooooooo. If you're no dang good you don't belong in the woods, wife or not. Practice and become proficient just like we expect our kids to be and you're welcome. You want to go with me, practice up or bring the camera.
Oh the great whitehunter has felt convicted, twisted my wordsand spoken... David readmy post once again so you will not twist my words. I never said anything about lowering standards and I even said they may have placed a rightfull standard (bow DW) that was on the high side for her to mantain enough KE to do the job right. I think everybody undercold or nervouscircumstancescould find themselves in the same predicament having a hard time pulling a bow back.What are you whining about anyway....isn't the deer dead and on video for all of us to see. Didn't her arrow kill the animal she was aiming at?Havn't we all made some kind of mistake while hunting? Yes, yesand yes.

All of the ones mocking her, ask yourself if your wife could even climb up that tree, let alone take a deer with a bow. I don't see anywhere where this woman had lower standards than any other hunter out there. To say she had a lower standard or a handicap is taking away all her hard work and would also be as silly as me telling you that you have a handicap with that bow your shooting.
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Old 01-23-2006 | 02:06 PM
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you guys need to read my last post.....
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