I guess this thread went a little off topic for the mod's, There's not a bad bow in th market if they all do the job.
I think all I was trying to say was that the individual who started this thread has his own right to include or exclude hich ever brand's he chooses ,so if your brand wasn't posted why create problemabout it.All I said wasthat that particular brand wasn't for me,if that's any reason to pull my thread thenwe have aproblem here.
I thought we all had a right to our own opinion.

nubo

[ORIGINAL: BigJ12


Come on people lets think about this, are there better bows than others?.....Yes, but will it really make that big a difference in the field? You can buy a $45,000.00 Perazzi MX3 Competition trap gun to take hunting but you won't kill any more birds than the guy with the $250.00 Remington 870 Wingmaster on any given day if youare bothequally skilledshooters.The higher line (priced) guns, bows, pistols, etc... matters only in the hands of the most elite of competition shooters and marksmen, and ONLYin controlled enviroments. Stick a pair of heavy gloves, jacket, boots, pants, bird vest full of Pheasants on a competition shooter let him walk in the snow half of the day looking for birds where his eyes are watering, he's snow blind and hisrunny nose is frozen to his upper lip and watch howWELL he does shooting.





BigJ12 this what I was referring to... if your going to shoot under those conditions, gloves jacket, boots, pants, etc.. that's when you are going to rely on a good piece of equipment to deliver. you said gizmo's like string silencers and such were gimmicks.. HeyI don't want to spook my target anymore than the next guy.. I agree bow companies are out to make money, and people like to have the latest on the market, right, most bows that killed deer 20 years ago, will still kill deer today. They are just getting better and better, smoother and quieter. just don't knock us that like the high tech stuff... some us shoot year round and have different bows for various activities.

I am not trying to whine or gripe, if it seems so I am sorry. I am trying to express my point. In my mind if your going to do a meaningiful andunbiased poll, then you need to list all the flavors including yours, its fun to see what everyone shoots. Yes there might be some dissagreement but all of us who come here in bowhunting will be involved. Not just the ones that shoot the brands you listed. If this was a manufactures web site then I wouldn't dissagree or disspute it. I would still think it was biased and unfairbut I wouldn't say soon their forum.I guess that is why Istay away from the manufactures web sites, from what I have seen the forum members are much to biased and stubborn for my taste. As far as starting my own poll, well I have seen that too. It has happened on several otherarchery sites just this past few months.Fellow archers do this same thing with their polls then after the thread isdone and over, they make a announcement that such and such of bow thehas tobe the very best because everyone voted for it. I went the verbal rounds with a fellow that did this very thing with Mathews bow. He felt that Mathews was the best and that everyone should see it from his point of view.I know I amsaying this again but Ifeel where we as archers error is when we assume that because brand X feels the best to us then it should feel the best to everyone else as well. When a archer makes a statement that he or she owns and shoots brand X because its feels best to them, they are correct and I belive them, but not for one second do I assume that it should feel the same to everyone else as well. With your poll I also wonder if you are choosing/deciding to buy a new bow between these companys? I also agree with whatGut Check said"You really only have 3 manufacturers up here since Hoyt owns Reflex and PSE owns AR. This sounds more like a budget dependent decision to me."If you are choosingto buy a bow from these brands then great, and you will have a awesome newbow. If this is the case, then why not just say so andask what would you choose between.If not, then I don't understandwhat results you are trying to achieve. Please don't feel that Iam trying topick a fight, because I am not, my whole purpose is to understandwhere you are comming from and at the sametime to get my point accross. I will add I know a verbal war does nothing but leave a bad feeling in ones gut, and makes one want to get revenge.Ihope that all of us members come on here to escape and get away in our mind from the dailystress of work and family needs.Heck with all the time I have spent hunting my beloved elk in the high countryin the rockies here in my home state of Idaho, I have yet to run into a fellow bowhunter/elkhunter and haveafight or argument over who's bow is betterat killing a elk or otherwise.Yet on the web sites there are verbal fights all the time over whos bow is better at this and that. I just don't understand it, oh well I'll shut up for now.

I just don't understand some of your mentalities...he's not asking what's the best bow...that would be a stupid question because one doesn't exist. He's not asking what bow do you shoot, he's asking of the choices he's listed, which one would you shoot...get over yourself and pick one....I certainly wouldn't be offended if he had Mathews on the list and not my choice bow...I'd simply pick one from the list....geeeeezzz[&:]

In fact, I currently shoot a Hoyt and didn't pick Hoyt in the list because some of the things I'm hearing about the Trykon so I picked BowTec because I haven't had the chance to shoot the Hoyt line....AND I'm possibly going to purchase a Switchback and if I am a Mathew owner, I'm still not going to have the mentality that it's the only bow on the market....

The only problem people have with a quality bow like Mathews is.....some of their owners.

I agree 100% Rob ,I think that was my point all along ,but obviously I ruffled some feather's for just being here .
I got a chewing out from another member for bashing and if anyone on this forumknow's me is that I don't bash any brand .
Enough said from me ,I'm sure I'll get another chewing for this one as well

nubo

I do have to admit that of the bows you chose for the poll you go from the bottom of the barrel to some of the best. Of the ones you have the price range can be anywhere from $150 to $800 or more. In my view there is no comparison.

You forgot to list Martin, though. Next to Pearson they are the next oldest bow maker and still of the highest quality.

On the post that got took off I was not saying that the only bow was a mathews,But,every time i am talking on this forum about a mathews
someone with brand X gets on and bashes them just because they don't
feel good to them!!If you will go back and look at some of my post you will see I incourage pepole to shoot more than one and decide for themselves!!!

Rev,

I'm glad you quoted that because it goes directly to my point, and that is youDON'T have to spend $800.00 on abow to be able to hunt and be successful at it. There is absolutely nothing aHoyt, Mathewsor Bowtech can do that any other well known bow manufacturers bow can do.

Please understand that I am now and always have been talkingabout hunting situations.Only when you get to the skill level of national competition shooters does the equipment come into play more and more. A perfect example is,A national champion archershootsa $200.00bow against you in a 3D shoot and you shoot your high dollar bow. Who do you think will win?

I am willing to bet that most of the bows on the market today by well known manufacturers (no matter what the price) can and will shoot better than 90% of thepeople shooting it. What happens is people fall into the advertising traps and marketing ploys.

If you want to spend to big money on the latest greatest bowthat hits the market today that's fine but don't think for a second that a lower dollar bow won't do the same thing. I'm not talking about a 20 year old bow either, I'm talking about a brand new bow with up to date technology just not the price tag to go with it. And contrary to what you think they are "real" bows too.

It seems to me on these posts, that there are a bunch of old women bickering back and forth, saying you don't need that, because I don't use those extras, or that bow and so on. People forget very quickly that if you strive to become a good archer and a hunter, regardless of your technique, products, and philosophy, then that is what counts. A good archer. Not just a hunter, but a good archer and hunter. I here this crying on here that some people are mouthing off at, including claims that "this is the real bow you need, and if you don't get this bow or product, then you don't have a real system that works like mine". BULLCRAP!!!!!. If you stripped down all the recurves, the compounds(except for a general pin sight), and the longbows, then people would be adjusting to that plain technology very quickly, and a little less pissing going on as well. Give this post a rest, and who cares about some poll. It goes to show, in the history of poll taking, that there is very little emphasis on truth and fact, and major emphasis on discrediting the polltakers. Instead of listening to fools say "you don't need to do that, don't buy that, buy this instead, you don't have a cool setup unless you have this brand", just go out and shoot. It wil make you feel a lot better.

I will agree, there is a lot of hype on the Matthews with lots other bows as good. I like mine and will use it till cant use it. But IMHO if you are gonna have a survery of which one you like, like or not, you got to include all! [&:]