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I do all of my hunting in New Jersey and the deer don't &quot;duck&quot; like I see in alot of hunting videos.

The woods I hunt are pretty noisy. The dead branches and acorns are falling constantly. On a calm day you hear the babbling of the stream. I took a shot at a yearling standing between a doe and a fawn a few weeks ago. I missed. Only the yearling moved AFTER the arrow hit the brush behind it. The doe never stopped eating and the arrow went right by her head (about 6 feet away).

I aim for where I hope the arrow will go.
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Did you shoot over top of it's back?

I, like many here do not shoot the jump. I aim dead on. For me, I have only had one deer jump the string (an alert doe).

fredbearfan

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What is the difference between a yearling and a fawn?

Here in Pa I always aim dead on whether its 10yds or 30. I never really experienced deer jumping the string.

I aim dead on. I rarely even see the arrow hit, I have no idea how you guys actually see the deer start to move before the arrow hits. I have seen it on video, I know it can happen, but if it happened to me I would never know <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>.

I aim for the middle to a little above middle.

Most that I have observed, mulie, whitetail, and blacktail duck [drop down before taking off so lower 1/3rd of the chest cavity.

Bowhunter

Thanks for the input all.

I have discussed this issue with many of my Texas hunting buddies over the years. If a pole were taken reguarding how much you should compensate, the average would probably be somewhere between 4 and 8 inches. This has been my experience, the impact point is usually 6 or so inches above the aim point. This only applies to shots between say 15 to 25/28 yards. I don't make a habit of shooting much beyond that but when the deer are outside of 30 yards they don't seem to react to the string much. If the woods are noisy I generaly don't compensate as much.

One thing we do here in Texas is hunt over feeders. I think when the deer are around those feeders I think they are naturally a little wired to start with. This may be the best explaination for what we see down here....Good hunting all...Fletch

KEEP THE WIND IN YOUR FACE.... FLETCH

Cyclone,
My shot went about a foot to the left. I was still hunting and opened my jacket so I wouldn't sweat. The string hit my jacket zipper any torqued the bow left. Arrow flight was otherwise perfect and at the lower lung height of the deer.

The doe was facing me with her head down - the arrow went by her head. She busted me when I reloaded.

I'm 43 yrs old and started this bowhunting thing when I was 15. I started out using a recurve which are pretty loud compared to today's compounds. Also, I've always hunted from the ground which should spook a deer more easily than from a tree. I've read about string jumping deer including something about 90% of does and 50% of bucks do it. The films I've seen also show the deer &quot;duck&quot;. I just haven't seen it in my woods yet.

BobCo - This may not be 100% accurate but I always refer to small deer with spots as fawns and small deer without spots as yearlings. They could be 6 month-lings for all I know.

cyclone. thanks for the tip. Guess I was`nt paying attention to the first 81 whitetails I shot with a bow. I`ll pay more attention from now on!<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

NRA,UBP,BASS Member
New Stanton,PA

BobCo, Most people around my area refer to a yearling as a young, partially grown buck or doe, but not in spots. The word FAWN is used when referencing a spotted baby deer. Is this not correct? You tell me..What do you guys think...Fletch

Good Luck All....Fletch

As far as deer goes, a yearling to me, and most I know is a 1-1/2 year old deer, Sometimes called a &quot;long yearling&quot; since it is more than 1 year old. Technically, a yearling would be a one year old animal. Deer of less than 1 year are referred to as fawns.

As for where to aim on a deer, I was a believer in the lower 1/3 of the body until last year. I should have known better, but shot at about 10 yds, from 17 ft up, and aimed at the lower 1/3, because I anticipated the edgy buck ducking. He did, but at steep angles, the drop of the deer does little to effect the point of impact of the hit. (imagine a deer directly below you, of course you wouldn't aim at the lower 1/3 - you couldn't. Now move that deer away from the stand 5 yds at a time in your mind, and envision the drop of the deer, and where you would have to aim, to compensate for the drop. - the further out you get, the more you must compensate - to a point).
In my case, I got a glanceing non lethal hit due to my stupidity.

From now on, when stand hunting, I will not compensate for a deer ducking. I never used to - the worst I ever had was a deer that ducked, and I ended up spine shooting it.


Might I suggest that in TX, most hunting is not done from 20 ft, and possibly more hunting is done on the ground. A hunter would have to consider a deer dropping, due to the noise of the shot, more than a stand hunter. Its all relative, even though the deer might drop the same amount in both situations, the person on the same level as the deer would experience a larger drop, than the person perched 20 ft above, because of the angle. If you doubt me, draw a little picture - estimating a deer dropping 6&quot; at 15 yds. The guy in the ground must compensate 6&quot;, the guy in the stand 20 ft up, will only have to compensate about 1&quot;.

Edited by - farm hunter on 10/08/2002 20:10:36