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Are those the only choices?

I can read fine.
I'm not trying to poke the fire to add some excitement to my life.

Maybe I'm just plain dumb?[&:]


That was a joke by the way.

Guess I should have added one of these ;)for the slow folks.;)

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Bowfanatic,

I think what Highrack is trying to say is they are not "genetically engineered". These are free range whitetails, the only difference is that they are allowed to grow up in an area that already had good genetics without being "altered". I know it is hard to read emotion across a computer screen, but I am saying this politely.

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IM SURE THE KING RANCH IS A VERY NICE PLACE TO HUNT BUT FOR A LOT LESS MONEY YOU CAN HUNT CANADA ANDFOR ONE PRICE USTAND A CHANCE OF TAKING A REAL MONSTER AND SEE THINGS IN THE BUSH THAT YOU JUST DO NOT SEE IN MOST OF THE STATES ... THE BUCK I TOOK LAST YEAR SCORED 185 AND ACCORDING TO KINGS HAD I TOOK IT THERE IT WOULD HAVE COST ME ABOUT 12K ... I SPENT 4K INCLUDING AIR, LICENSES AND TAG ...ALL MEALS AND BOARD ARE INCLUDED ..

MASS RULES
DD

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A free hunt "absolutely" you don't need to ask twice.

nubo

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My how you can feel the Texas love in this thread.

Funny how all ranches in Texas have to be high fence and genetically enhanced deerand shot right at a feeder just like all Texans wear cowboy hats and boots and get big fat oil checks every month. Guess they are both pretty common stereotypes.... just as long as we know the truth who cares.

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I'll retract my comment about the fencing since it was in error , but I still wouldn't hunt the King or any other place that charges to hunt , and I definitely wouldn't pay those outrageous fees . No animal is worth that to me or ever will be. If I can't hunt for just the cost of my license and tag then I'll find another hobby, I can't relate to the trophy hunter's mentality and never will .

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My point exactly. You, being the idiot you are, do not know the difference between taking advantage of nature, and an artificial advantage.
I would like to think bowhunters are a little more sophisicated than your normal hick with a gun, but you prove quite the contrary.

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I guess so if they'd let me use my bow. They're free ranging deer even if the perimeter is fenced. BUT, I don't think any deer taken there should qualify for any books etc if you're into that sort of stuff. I'm not but some are. I'll hunt anywhere except on one of those canned deals. I really would rather go to big woods and not "Big Scrub Country".
OPS...my bad. I just read the rest of the post and found it's not high fences so deer would count for your "Books" if you're into that sort of thing. I understand they used to offer some great pig hunts in the off season. Even allow camping etc on their land for the pig hunts.. It was something like $100 for 3 days or something like that. They allowed it trying to lower the pig population.

P.S. BOW... you got to learn to use these little dowhackys..[8D][8D];):eek:
WHY??? Because some people can't read BETWEEN the lines.[8D]

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I don't know a lot of that land was my wifes great grandfathers, the king boys gunned him down and took the land Ahhh the old west[:'(]

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Nope.

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If I let something like having land stolen from ancestors keep me from hunting a place, I'd never be able to hunt. Everywhere there is a white man today, some Indian was gunned down to take the land.:eek:Ah, Manifest Destiny.[8D]

Would I go on a free hunt at the King Ranch? I might be crazy, but I'm no idiot. I'd be packed and in the truck in less than record time.[8D]

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never in a million years.....not only the king either...no place in texas.....

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That's great! If enough people had your attitude, then maybe I wouldn't have to wait for someone to come offer me a free trip to the King Ranch. Keep up the good work.:)

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If i had the option of the hunt or the cash value, i'd be all over that cash. But if it wasthe trip or nothing, i'd go. Good food and lots of pretty pen raised deer.



Zach

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I guess I dont understand whats so bad about Texas, someone please explain! I love this state, and if you dont wanna visit, well thats your choice.

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IF ITS FREE I'LL GET ANYTHING, WELL ALMOST ANYTHING!:D

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Aggie, its because most of the guys on this site are from up north (that explains alot). There use to hunting out of tree stands on 5 acre lots, watching trails and killing the first 1 1/2 year old buck that walks by.

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Of course I'd go on it. I won't turn anything down that's offered to me free.

As far as ever going otherwise, forget it. I'm not a millionaire. I can't afford it.

Sad that the cost for shooting a good buck are so expensive. Hunting used to be the common-man's sport. That ranch sounds like it's for elitists.

I'll just try to shoot my big bucks, by asking permission, by paying for a cheap lease, or by hunting my own property.

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Alot of the things that people do in Texas are illegal and called poaching in many states. Some people have moral & ethical reasons not to hunt the way Texans do.
These are some of the things that stand out to me.
1. Shooting deer that can not escape an enclosure is not fair chase hunting .Shooting penned deer is wrong.
2.Shooting deer from a truck window is wrong no matter where you are ,it is wrong.
3.Baiting a white tailed deer is not right.Baiting waterfowl was outlawed a long time ago becase it creates birds to easily killed,it is time to outlaw baiting deer also.

These are just three reasons that I thinkmake Texas hunters look bad.There is very little public land in Texas so anyone that wants to hunt has to pay these fees,this being the case young hunters are taken to these ranches and their dad buys them a deer and when they grow up the cycle is repeated , now if you have grown up in Texas this is how you think hunting should be done.
And in Texas that is how it will always be done.

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BawanaJim:

Your right shooting any "penned" animal is wrong. That why canned hunting is ILLEGAL in Texas. But most Texans and politicans known and can tell the difference between a multithousand acre ranch that has an 8foot fence compared to a 1 acre pen that has old circus animals walking around.

You might be suprised by how many antelope out west are killed from the cab of a truck. And besides most of us Texans dont shoot "OUT OF OUR WINDOW" unstead we have a hyrack or top drive mounted on the cab of the truck, big difference :D. But thats not just a Texas thing, people in Mexico and Arizona do it for muledeer and couses deer. Top drives and hyracks stay......


Look where talking about deer, not a federal law about birds. And where you arefrom baiting deer is not legal and you've probably have never done it or have any knowledge about it. Sprinkling out some corn on a sendero before climbing up into your stand has and always will be a Texas tradition, just like killing nubbing bucks is a PA tradition. Baiting in the Lone Star state will never be illegal, nor should it be, trust me on that one...


Texas has always been a private state, and thats something where proud of. The only people who complain are the guys who dont own any land or have anywhere to hunt, sorry but thats not our fault. The land of Texas is owned by the people, meaning the people ACTUALLY own it, not just borrow it like you find in states with public lands. I think the whole "public land system" is great but I think the private land system is even better and is what the country is suppose to be all about. Personally I think the public land in this country is very similar to the wealthfare system. Sorry but give me private land over public ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.........

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Another thing, this thread asked "WOULD YOU TAKE A FREE HUNT ON THE KING RANCH".

It did not ask if your poor, or if you need to sale your house to pay for a hunt on this ranch, or if you only hunt public land and hold some type of grudge against private land. A hunt on this ranch is as good as it gets for whitetails, just like a hunt on the White mountain Apache reservation is as good as it gets for elk. An elk hunt on the reservation brings about $25,000 for the top end animals, which is alittle more then what the King ranch gets for their top end animals. And the King ranch is 825,000 acres which is big enough to be an indian reservation :D

I bet if I posted a question asking "Would you take a free hunt on the White Mountain Apache Reservation" I wouldnt get nearly the type of responses thatthis threadhas gotten. Which dosent really have much to do with the ranch, it has todo with the grudgesome of ya'll hold againstTexas. WhichI simply find funny

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aggihunter asked a question. I answered it.Everthing I said is the truth. Some people are hunters some are not.The hunters know the differance.

You think shooting a deer out of pen under a corn feeder from your truck is hunting , I don't.

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Bawana:

Your the only one who is talking about shooting penned deer, out a window, from a truck. What does any of this have to do with the original question of this thread? If your one of these old timer self appointed pro's and ethical police who only hunts on public land and who dosent do anything for the habitat or wildlife other then set up a tree stand on weekends and kills the first buck that walks by, that is fine (I guess). But please spare me all of your ethics and beliefs which are simply based on the area your from and how you where born and raised. Who cares if baiting in your area is illegal, the King ranch is not located in your county.

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Ya'll got to realize that most of the replies are what they perceive to be "PC Correct" responses. Most every hunter I know would enjoy the opportunity to wander in different terrain and have a go at the unknown. All the injection of feeder talk, genetically grown deer etc etc is nothing more than PC Correct back up info. The question wasn't "would you be lead by the nose to shoot a monster in a cage or at dinner time". I figure that somewhere in nearly a million acres I could find a little place to have a few moments of "Miller Time" all by myself. That's really what it's all about. It's suppose to be fun... not my hunting is real hunting and yours is immoral. Someone ask, "What's really wrong with Texas, I kind of like it". YOu know, I do too. It was where I learned to bow hunt in 1971. My son was born at Brooks Army Hospital. My wife and I bought our first home on Dan Duryea drive in San Antonio. It was a brand new rancher and cost right at $28,000. Heck, my recent truck purchase listed for more than that. I used to have free roam of a couple "Ranchettes" north of San Antonio and a 2,000 acre rice farm outside of Houston for Goose hunting. Also had a friend with a 20,000 acre place above Austin that I got to hunt free if I chose to make the trip. YUP, I have lots of fond memories of Texas, not the least of which was the road system. Best in the country. Yes sir, I kind of like the place. I have a standing invitation to go out near Bryan and thin a herd of Axis that have taken up residence on a friends land. His family doesn't hunt and really don't want hunters running all over the place. He doesn't want to let people he doesn't know in so I have a standing invitation to come out with my BOW ONLY and shoot until I run out of arrows. I would have made it this fall if my wife hadn't come down sick. There will be other days. When I finally do make it I plan to invite a couple Texans from the board to participate. That way there would always be some herd control going on.

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ORIGINAL: Aggiehunter
[quote]I guess I dont understand whats so bad about Texas, someone please explain! I love this state, and if you dont wanna visit, well thats your choice.[quote]
[/quote/aggihunter asked a question. I answered it.Everthing I said is the truth. Some people are hunters some are not.The hunters know the differance. [quote/You think shooting a deer out of pen under a corn feeder from your truck is hunting , I don't.[quote]



This guy asked a question & I answered it .If you take offence in howit apears to others the way youhunt maybe you should change the way you hunt.If you are not ashamed then have fun.
By the way I do own a fair piece of PA,and I have some tree stands also.If you ever think that you would like to try deer hunting,give me a call your more than welcome,I won't even charge the price of a new Chevy truck if you happen to shoot one,up here we still do it for free!

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Truthfully, the only "gun"I own is a muzzleloader. I'm a bow hunter only. And the last time I checked, nature very rarely has cornfields, clover, or alphalfa fields pop up. Its no different if I put up a feeder to draw deer out of the incredibly dense brush, or if you hunt within 2 miles of a cornfield. The next time you shoot a deer, if you even have shot a deer, open up its stomach and I garuntee you will find some type of cash crop in its stomach.

I am not a native Texan, in fact this is only my first year living down here. Its really very similar to hunting in WV, except the "feeders" are cornfields, etc. Lets face it, who cares if we hunt deer overa feeder. We are predators, not elitest. You go and hunt your barren foodless woods, and I'll hunt my food plots, feeders, watering tanks, and whatever else I feel the urge to legally hunt over.

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You wouldn't need to ask twice.

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Being from Texas and being 17 years old, I have not once experienced all the myths spread about this state. You said that my dad buys me a deer, and that when I grow up I'll buy my son deer. This could not be farther from the truth, last year, I sat in a blind for over forty days, and come the end of the season the only animal I harvested was a 3 point cull buck. No huge 12 point paid for by my parents, but rather a well earned animal. I have yet to shoot at a deer out of the cab of a truck and have never seen it done, and I have been hunting since I was 5. As for private land, yes thats true, we lease out the property we use, but have strict rules, no deer less than 8 points, and leads to managed land with larger deer. Just because we dont hunt public land doesnt mean a thing. Yes, feeding deer corn in Texas is legal, but its not like we sit 5 feet away, nailing the first thing that walks by. Rather, we set up a coupla' hundred yards away on a trail. This is no more 'poaching' than setting up on the edge of an aot field, deer need to eat, it doesnt matter if it was planted or dropped on the ground. Never have hunted on high fenced land and dont plan on it.

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Aggiehunter, I see your from Round Rock, have you ever heard or used Chance Love Taxidermy out of Round Rock. I've heard his work is really good and was just wondering if you've ever been in his studio or anything.

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Aggiehunter read my earlier post (above)... some people are just ignorant and uneducated.. there is nothing wrong with Texas, and you should be proud to be from Texas and hunt here. Be proud you dont have to ask to hunt you dont have to worry about someone stealing your stand or trail cam or a meth lab in your woods or another hunter sitting right next to you .. be proud..

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Now that is a way to win friends and influence people on a board you're just getting into.[8D] I bet you always got the "NO" box checked in "Plays well and gets along with others" on the report card.

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yes I would

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Amen, I am proud of Texas! TXhighrack, I have leader at curch who is actually best friends with Chance Love, and he has alot of work done by him. At the local Sportsmans Warehouse theres alot of his stuff and its real impressive, nice detail and everything, I havent personally had any work done by him but hopefully this year I get one that I can mount, glad you and I are on the same page

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Just makes me wonder how many of the "Texas bashers" have even been within 500 miles of Texas... Generally I try to keep my mouth shut about things I have not experienced first hand, or at least let people know my opinions are not based on experience.[:'(]

Less than 1% of my county is under high fence. I don't know a single person that feeds protein, or has genetically altered his herd through any means EXCEPT selective harvest. The only "pen" for wildlife I've ever seen was in Bwanajims post. We did have a nontypical that scored 236 get killed last year, about 10 miles from my house. The ranch it was shot on covers 26 sections, all low fence. There was another that went 192, and the year before several more. The main reason it cost so much to hunt here is because of all the folks from other places with lots of money andmismanaged game populationscome here to hunt. It's hard to hold them off a 2 1/2 year old deer cause it's the biggest one they've shot in their life.

I have hunted since I was five, and my father has never "bought" me any animal. My boys have paid sweat and blood for the animals they have killed. We never even paid for a lease untill 2 years ago, untill out of state hunting drove the price of land through the roof. I learned to deer hunt by spot and stalk onthousands of acres, not on my butt in a tree stand. I'll tell you what, come down here and I'll show you the meaning of tough hunt. We'll walk about 10 miles doing spot and stalk on open grasslands with a bow. Find out some facts before you start painting the whole state with that broad a brush.

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Who in their right mind would pass up a guided hunt for free? I mean come on...it's FREE. With BIG buck potential.

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I WOULDN"T! I'll bet you what ever you think you can afford! How much????????????????;):D

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And yes, I would take the hunt. Wouldn't even think about it.

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HELL YES I would. Are you thinking of donating one?:D

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Critr-Gitr, let's not forgetquitea fewof these city boys don't have a clue what a 'section' is. ;)For the record then, a section is one square mile.

They also don't realize the sheer size of the King Ranch. To put it in some perspective for them, let's justput it this way... The King Ranch is approx.825,000 acres, nearly 1300 square miles.... Larger, in fact,than the entire State of Rhode Island.

So, if it's unethical to hunt the King Ranch, it's unethical to hunt in Rhode Island.