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Old 10-01-2002 | 08:12 AM
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The difference between my high and low arrow is usually just a couple inches, but my left and right arrow can be as much as a foot or so apart. How come? (I'm shooting a compound with fingers using a peep and pin. Is there a typical mistake I might be making?

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Old 10-01-2002 | 08:32 AM
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I would start by moving my rest left or right in small increments until the groups are their tightest. If they open up again you've gone to far. You could do the same to your nock set if you want to tighten those a tad too. That is definately the easiest and cheapest way to start. If you still don't get the results your looking for it would be time to look at spine, draw length, form ect.
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Old 10-01-2002 | 08:37 AM
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Sounds grip or centershot related to me. Make sure you hold the bow with the same torque free (neutral) grip everytime and if you haven't tried a wrist sling and a open or open relaxed (fingers just laying gently on the front of the riser), then you might want to try that. This is assuming the bow fits you and the arrows are properly matched to the bow (which is first and foremost).

If that doesn't help, you might try to download Martin's tuning manual and work with the group tuning section on horizontal disturbances. You'll be shooting at a vertical line and making adjustments to see what makes an improvement. Good luck.

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http://www.martinarchery.com/manual/comp1.html -if you shoot a compound bow.
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Old 10-01-2002 | 08:38 AM
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I've personally found that horizontal misses are usually due to errors in form. You may want to review what you're doing, and double-check your form on each shot to see what happens.

I know that I get left to right misses sometimes, and I usually can correct it on the next shot by paying attention to form.

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Old 10-01-2002 | 08:42 AM
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If you're consistently right or consistently left then I would suggest moving your rest in small increments, etc as nub mentioned. However if you're off in both directions then it's probably from hand torque, poor form, or maybe fletching contact. I was having a similar problem earlier this summer. My groups were consistently 4 or 5 inches to the right. I thought that it was hand torque and drove myself nuts trying to perfect my form. Then I read some posts here that suggested going to the Easton web site and downloading their tuning manual. I started at the beginning of the manual and worked my way through. I found out that the arrows I was shooting were under spined. Some new arrows and a few minor adjustments learned from the manual and now I've got my field points and broadheads grouping together under 2" at 20 yards. Check out the Easton site.
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Old 10-02-2002 | 08:53 AM
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From your descriptions it's probably form. I miss left and right. So many things to think about. Thanks for the advice. I'll have to go up to the range and see if someone can't point out my faults.
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Old 10-02-2002 | 09:39 AM
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I agree with all the sugestions so far and will add FLETCHING CONTACT . Like jeepnut said . I'd check that first .

If information provided by the members of this board have helped you please let us know .
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Old 10-02-2002 | 10:19 AM
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Form, hand torque, etc. ........ as suggested.

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Old 10-02-2002 | 12:11 PM
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Form related? That would be my guess also. And often times the right left stuff and inconsistent form is caused by the draw length being too long. It's been observed by those who KNOW that probably 80% of shooters have their bow set from one to three inches too long. A good way to catch this is that I ask where you anchor. Shooting fingers I would not anchor past the corner of the mouth with the index finger. If you have this OK then I would have to say you grip the bow too tightly. There's some real good tutorials on this at "bowsite.com/bowsite/features/practicalbowhunter" Check it out.

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Old 10-02-2002 | 08:42 PM
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The installation of a $7.00 bubble level above my 20 yard site pin helped my horizontal grouping......

Edited by - W. Dale on 10/02/2002 21:44:07
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