RE: Scentlok Savanna
 

This will be my 3rd season with my Scent Lok gear.All I can say is that the product has made a believer out of me.

RE: Scentlok Savanna
 

That is what everyone does with it.........they use it up and toss it out and replace it. Or they pay large sums of money to have it reactivated by pyrolysis at a commercial plant.......the bottom line always comes down to money. If you are using incredible amounts of carbon it is cheaper to get it reactivated..........if not just toss it and get some new stuff.


Maybe you should have read the thread............no one is debating that fact.


You don't have to keep it Barney simple..........I have more letters after my name then in it ;)

That is what I am waiting for the proof of..............The problem is it's not Barney simple......there are many molecules that get sucked up by the suit that won't come out.........there is scent in your dryer.......you don't know what the suit was subjected to before you bought it..........you don't know if the suit provides a airtight seal for scent..........do the carbon fibers seperate??........what if it's wet??......are all dryers the same?? There are 100 variables to your Barney simple explanation.

Couldn't have said it better myself ;)...........people did "believe" the world was flat. How did they find out the truth?? They set sail and proved it. Read the thread........it is very clear that the ones who question the validity of the carbon suits claims are those that DO understand carbon and the chemistry, physics and science behind it.

RE: Scentlok Savanna
 

No your not! Show us "the futility". For those that swear by it , from their own field trialswith proven success , can you prove that scent-lok had absolutely nothing to do with their success?:eek:

You may not be bashing anyone but your sure looking like an ass!

RE: Scentlok Savanna
 

Wise choice.

Read the wholethread. This has not been a disputed point.

It's not the process that's in doubt just the amount of heat that's needed to do it.

The forces involved with absorbtion are actually much weaker than the forces involved with adsorbtion. Yet in the statement above you seem to be suggesting exactly the opposite. It's not where the bond occurs that matters but the type of bond.

If low tempslike those generated in a household dryer will cause 80 to 90 percent regeneration of activated carbon then let me ask you this: Why do you have to dispose of items like Brita water filters or household carbon air filters when they become saturated? Why not just pop them in the dryer or hell even better the microwave oven and make those babies as good as new? Give it a try with one of those items sometime and you'll find out why. Cause it won't work folks. Sorry!

Yeah and the people who believed that werepeople who based their beliefs not on scientific evidence but instead onfairytales about seamen who sailed off the edge of the world. The men who disproved them were the people that set out seeking real proof.

In an interesting side note the man who first proved the Earth was round was a man called Eratosthenes in the year 226 BC. In fact using only sticks and the shadow angles of the sun henot only boldly stated that Earth had to be round but also calculated the circumferance of the earth and was only off by a fairly small margin. (He was off a little because the Earth is not perfectly round. A fact thata man of his time could not have possibly known) Interesting story. Do a google searchsometime and read about.

RE: Scentlok Savanna
 

Proving a negative is almost impossible. That's why in our courts we force the prosecution to prove you did it rather than asking you to prove that you didn't. Likewise scientists do not come foreward and say things like "this drug cures cancer, now we are gonna market and sellthe hell out of it while you guys try to prove it doesn't work". Nope,doesn't work that way. (thank God) They made the stuff. They are making the claim that it works. It is incumbent apon them to prove it does work.

RE: Scentlok Savanna
 

good news while you have spent the last couple days argueing your point. some people are always right. i have launched a couple hundred arrows into my mckenzie and my groups got a little tighter. i have been practicing so when that big buck shows up downwind from me and has no clue that me in my scentlock suit even exist i should be able to put a good clean shot on him.

RE: Scentlok Savanna
 

Awesome! I've been practicing too! Somewhere between this, work, and writing thank-you notes from my very recent wedding. Talk about busy! Wheeew!

RE: Scentlok Savanna
 

Don't forget bugging me while I"m trying to move gravel at Todd's new house!

RE: Scentlok Savanna
 

I've showed you 100 times already.......so have a dozen other people. Trying to prove Scent-Lok works by saying you saw a deer downwind is completely useless, pointless, frivolous, trifling..........take your pick. There are countless variables that can never and will never provide reliable data.....no 2 deer are the same and their moods change by the hour so trying to say that something you saw one day in the woods is a remarkably poor way to try and prove that same result can be counted on in the future. The most blatant example of this is anyone with a story that they saw a deer downwind without using a carbon suit.......by your logic this means they do not work.........see how silly that is?

This is where you are missing the boat. Scent Lok G Designer himself takes every opportunity he can to poke fun at the search dogs study..........yet that is about as controlled a field study as you can do..........and certainly the most controlled I have heard of to date. Could it be better?? I'm sure it wasn't perfect but how can you sit here and rip apart that study for being "useless" and then try to support random occurances in the woods under who knows what kind of circumstances.


Todd said it best...........proving a negative is near impossible........and that is why the world of science and our justice system don't ask anyone to do so. Besides, I am not the one asking people to pay millions of dollars for something I am making claims about that I can not prove.


Do you mean you're?

RE: Scentlok Savanna
 

I don't really concern myself with field tip groups at this late stage of the year. I shoot 30 broadheads a day from a ladder stand in my backyard with my hunting gear on. I am more then ready for the season.........and it is still 7 weeks away ;)

I hope you put a clean shot on him too.