Scentlok Savanna
08-22-2005 | 11:33 PM
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From: Sugar Grove NC USA
Scentlok Savanna
I just bought a savanna suit at the bass pro fall classic. I e-mailed Scentlok to get some tips on caring for, and, using the new suit. In the reply, a lady in their marketing dept, told me not to spray down with scent eliminator. I was shocked. She said it was fine to spray on my boots and equiptment but not on the garment. Does it hurt the suit? I would have sworn I have seen these guys on tv spray up and down with scent eliminators when they are in their suits...Is she right or was I mis-informed? Thanks as always.
08-23-2005 | 08:16 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Scentlok Savanna
I could understand if she said not to spray the inside of the garment directly onto the Scent Lok liner. But I can't see a reason why you couldn't spray the outer shell. The mist isn't enough liquid to really absorb deep into the garment.
08-23-2005 | 08:34 AM
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RE: Scentlok Savanna
WholeLottaGobble,
We are sorry if we were unclear on the care of the garment. In a nutshell, it doesn't matter if you spray the whole suit down or not. It is just unecessary. Nothing will be hurt with a scent-eliminating spray. However, we do not recommend spraying ANY scent cover-up on a suit as it will adsorb that smell and leave you less room to adsorb human odors. I personally spray around my boots, hands and neck area a few times during hot days and less on medium to chilly days.
Again nothing will harm your suit, just regenerate it in a household dryer when you can, and always wear a headcover! If you have any other specific questions feel free to P.M. me and I will be gald to help you out.
We are sorry if we were unclear on the care of the garment. In a nutshell, it doesn't matter if you spray the whole suit down or not. It is just unecessary. Nothing will be hurt with a scent-eliminating spray. However, we do not recommend spraying ANY scent cover-up on a suit as it will adsorb that smell and leave you less room to adsorb human odors. I personally spray around my boots, hands and neck area a few times during hot days and less on medium to chilly days.
Again nothing will harm your suit, just regenerate it in a household dryer when you can, and always wear a headcover! If you have any other specific questions feel free to P.M. me and I will be gald to help you out.
08-23-2005 | 11:12 AM
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Dominant Buck
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RE: Scentlok Savanna
ORIGINAL: PSENJersey
Representative's from Scent Lok on the forum? Im not crazy about that. While you're here, how does a dryer reactivate charcoal when it doesn't produce a high enough temperature to do so?
Representative's from Scent Lok on the forum? Im not crazy about that. While you're here, how does a dryer reactivate charcoal when it doesn't produce a high enough temperature to do so?
08-23-2005 | 11:16 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Scentlok Savanna
Yeah. I am waiting on a response. A lot has been argued on this forum about the validity of your product.
Here is your chance to sell your product to a lot Hunters that are not convinced that it is any better than regular camo.
Here is your chance to sell your product to a lot Hunters that are not convinced that it is any better than regular camo.
08-23-2005 | 11:39 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Scentlok Savanna
I'm going to quote one of Scent-Lok G.Designer's posts from another thread. Hope it answers your question(s).
Scent-lok is going to seal everything off at the cuffs and ankles?
Well we are not in the business of "sealing off" scent. We adsorb scent to a point where, when taken care of, will make a person undetectable by scent wary animals. Cuffs and ankles are actually low scent emitting areas but Activated carbon gloves and Boots with GORE-TEX or Rubber boots shoulde be used in the system. Wrists, should be treated with carbon blast or some scent-eliminating spray.
Scent-lok is going to stop 100% of the odor coming off my body?
Again, we adsorb scent to a point where, when taken care of, will make a person undetectable by scent wary animals. Under no circumstances can ANY product make you completely scent free, but our system along with proper care, and the use of sprays will bring odor below a threshold that animale cannot smell.
Scent-lok is going to fully 100% "regenerate" and clean itself after throwing in a home dryer?
No we won't be 100% clean after a household drying cycle, but it frees enough carbon capicity to allow for another 40-50 hours of field use. Think of it like a sponge. You spill coffee on your counter, and begin to wipe it up until the sponge becomes full. You then go to the sink and wring out as much as you can. The sponge is NEVER fully dry, but you can soak up more coffee. This is the same thing that happens in a household dryer. You are right that it will never be able to totally regenerate it without heating it up and destroying the garment.
Scent-lok is a good solution for a week long backpack hunt?
Actually you can use it for a week by taking proper care of it. After hunting immediatly put into an airtight bag (read this as anything from a dryt bag to a garbage bag). Put it on just before hunting, and use BaseSlayers for extended hunts. If scouting wear it at the most critical points of a hunt like stalking and final approach. Lastly, and only as a last resort, put it in a black trashbag, seal it up and put it in direct sunlight for a couple of hours. Then open the bag and push any access air out and seal it back up until your hunt begins. This will allow for some extra time of activation, but should be use only as a last resort.
Well we are not in the business of "sealing off" scent. We adsorb scent to a point where, when taken care of, will make a person undetectable by scent wary animals. Cuffs and ankles are actually low scent emitting areas but Activated carbon gloves and Boots with GORE-TEX or Rubber boots shoulde be used in the system. Wrists, should be treated with carbon blast or some scent-eliminating spray.
Scent-lok is going to stop 100% of the odor coming off my body?
Again, we adsorb scent to a point where, when taken care of, will make a person undetectable by scent wary animals. Under no circumstances can ANY product make you completely scent free, but our system along with proper care, and the use of sprays will bring odor below a threshold that animale cannot smell.
Scent-lok is going to fully 100% "regenerate" and clean itself after throwing in a home dryer?
No we won't be 100% clean after a household drying cycle, but it frees enough carbon capicity to allow for another 40-50 hours of field use. Think of it like a sponge. You spill coffee on your counter, and begin to wipe it up until the sponge becomes full. You then go to the sink and wring out as much as you can. The sponge is NEVER fully dry, but you can soak up more coffee. This is the same thing that happens in a household dryer. You are right that it will never be able to totally regenerate it without heating it up and destroying the garment.
Scent-lok is a good solution for a week long backpack hunt?
Actually you can use it for a week by taking proper care of it. After hunting immediatly put into an airtight bag (read this as anything from a dryt bag to a garbage bag). Put it on just before hunting, and use BaseSlayers for extended hunts. If scouting wear it at the most critical points of a hunt like stalking and final approach. Lastly, and only as a last resort, put it in a black trashbag, seal it up and put it in direct sunlight for a couple of hours. Then open the bag and push any access air out and seal it back up until your hunt begins. This will allow for some extra time of activation, but should be use only as a last resort.
08-23-2005 | 11:50 AM
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RE: Scentlok Savanna
PSENJersey,
You are referring to two different things, reactivation and regeneration. Reactivation is basically remaking the activated carbon all over again. To achieve this state you must heat it to over 600° in an very controlled enviroment. Quite different from the household dryer. Regeneration is what we do in the household dryer. Basically this rids the garment of roughly 85-90% of the scent molucules in the garment, but will never totally reactivate a garment.
Scent-Lok and activated carbon is basically a sponge for air. As with the sponge, you wipe up a liquid until it is totally saturated. Liquid will literally fall off the sponge. You then wring out the sponge in the sink to enable it to pick up more liquid. The sponge after wringing is still technically wet, but can pick up more liquid. This is the premise of activated carbon and regeneration; where activated carbon replaces the sponge, the liquid is scent and the process of wringing out the sponge is drying it in the dryer.
Test data You can read the independent lab testing data here.
Many have questioned the validity of our products, so we continue to test our own products and new technologies to validate ourselves. We continually outperform ourselves by investing in better fabrics, technology and forms of carbon. There are people who have had bad experiences and through addressing their specific issues we find our they are not using the entire system as we suggest. This includes jackets, pants, gloves and most importantly a headcover. Also, people wonder why they are getting busted in the Scent-Lok suit that they wore from their garage, stopped and bought some gas and had a couple of smokes on the way to the field. Again it is important to think of activated carbon as a sponge for air, it picks up all scent and the more scent that is present the quicker Scent-Lok and activated carbon will fill up. Lastly, regenerate as often as possible, if you are on a long hunt and away from a dryer, wear the suit only during hunting hours and store it in an airtight bag.
Lastly, Scent-Lok hunting suits and activated carbon will NOT make you 100% scent free. It brings your total scent emitted into your hunting area down below a threshold that will let you go undetected by scent wary animals.
Hopefullly this helps. If anyone has a specific question, feel free to personal message me and I will continue to converse. Many times these forums become a battery of personal attacks, and I will not be a part of it, so as soon as something of that nature occurs I will have to regretfully exit from the conversation. If this conversation stays civil and to the point I will continue with this until there are no more questions.
Thanks for understanding
You are referring to two different things, reactivation and regeneration. Reactivation is basically remaking the activated carbon all over again. To achieve this state you must heat it to over 600° in an very controlled enviroment. Quite different from the household dryer. Regeneration is what we do in the household dryer. Basically this rids the garment of roughly 85-90% of the scent molucules in the garment, but will never totally reactivate a garment.
Scent-Lok and activated carbon is basically a sponge for air. As with the sponge, you wipe up a liquid until it is totally saturated. Liquid will literally fall off the sponge. You then wring out the sponge in the sink to enable it to pick up more liquid. The sponge after wringing is still technically wet, but can pick up more liquid. This is the premise of activated carbon and regeneration; where activated carbon replaces the sponge, the liquid is scent and the process of wringing out the sponge is drying it in the dryer.
Test data You can read the independent lab testing data here.
Many have questioned the validity of our products, so we continue to test our own products and new technologies to validate ourselves. We continually outperform ourselves by investing in better fabrics, technology and forms of carbon. There are people who have had bad experiences and through addressing their specific issues we find our they are not using the entire system as we suggest. This includes jackets, pants, gloves and most importantly a headcover. Also, people wonder why they are getting busted in the Scent-Lok suit that they wore from their garage, stopped and bought some gas and had a couple of smokes on the way to the field. Again it is important to think of activated carbon as a sponge for air, it picks up all scent and the more scent that is present the quicker Scent-Lok and activated carbon will fill up. Lastly, regenerate as often as possible, if you are on a long hunt and away from a dryer, wear the suit only during hunting hours and store it in an airtight bag.
Lastly, Scent-Lok hunting suits and activated carbon will NOT make you 100% scent free. It brings your total scent emitted into your hunting area down below a threshold that will let you go undetected by scent wary animals.
Hopefullly this helps. If anyone has a specific question, feel free to personal message me and I will continue to converse. Many times these forums become a battery of personal attacks, and I will not be a part of it, so as soon as something of that nature occurs I will have to regretfully exit from the conversation. If this conversation stays civil and to the point I will continue with this until there are no more questions.
Thanks for understanding
