statjunk

Hey guys,

I just finished building my tree blinds. I built two of them. One at about 12 feet up and another at about 18 feet up. They are both 4' x 4' and have a railing that runs up to my chin when I am sitting in my hunting swivel chair.

The question is with my bow. I took some practice shots and because of the elevation the bow is shooting about 4" low. Should I move my sights or should I just hold it low on the deer. The issue is that I like to shoot in my back yard at home and I am on level land when I do that. What would you suggest?

Thanks
Tom

Bees

when you were up in the tree did you come to anchor like you do when on the ground? If you did then you should have been aiming about 18 feet above the ground cause that's how high up you were. Now, once your there you have to bend at the waist to get on target. If you just drop your bow arm down you won't hit where you want. Bending at the waist is a big key when your elevated..

statjunk

Bees,

I understand what you are saying, ie bend at the waist. But how is that going to affect my shot?

So my arrow should still strike at the same location even if I am up in a tree?

Thanks
Tom

Bees

if your target is 20 yards out your 20 yard pin should work when your up there. If you don't keep all the angles the same as when you are on the ground, you won't be very accurate from up high. also the height of the stand does make a difference.

Woodman 454

The difference in distance between shooting a flat 20 yds and 20 yds from a height of 4-6 yds is not a big one maybe 2.5-3 feet. Thats IT!! So shooting 20 yds on the ground is equal to shooting 21 yds from 18 feet. Just hold the bloody pin. More importantly, compensate for the angle of entry and consider where the vitals are. Also be absolutley sure to bend at the waist only. I strongly reccomend a NO-PEEP if you have any trouble shooting from a tree stand. Check the Pythagorean theory for yourself A2+B2=C2

ButchA

I agree.... Do a search on the ol' "Pythagorean Theorum" and you'll see how this was discussed over and over.

Edit:
20 feet squared = 400
20 yards (60') squared = 3600

a2+b2=c2...... 4000

Square root of 4000 = 63.24555

Divide by 3 (63.24555 / 3) = 21.08185

Pythagorean Theorum: 20 yard ground = 20 yards. 20 yard in tree 20 feet up = 21.08 yards.

Butch A.

statjunk

Believe me I know pythagorean theorem very well, I am a Statistician. However, isn't there an effect from gravity?

Could the 4" high be caused by not bending at the waist?

Tom

jerseyhunter

No, gravity is always the same.

Yes, you must bend at the waist.

Double Creek

I've never noticed any difference. I just aim and shoot. With bows 250+ fps, that yard or two difference is meaningless.

Woodman 454

Sure there is an effect from gravity. 9.8 meters per second....per second. But it never changes. The bending at the waist thing however is huge. Wait a minute let caps that HUGE! Shooting on flat level ground standing up straight your nock is roughly in the middle of the string, or the length of string from the nock to the top and bottom cam or wheel, whatever you are using will be the same. If you hold anchor and move your arm down only, you effectively shorten the length from the nock to one cam and lengthen it to the other...-bad. If however you used a NO-PEEP you would be unable to do this because the n/p would tell you immediatley that you were not using proper form. In other words, It makes you bend at the waist.