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I watched that show for 30 minutes tonight and hated it to the core. They critiqued on scent control because Scent Blocker is their sponsor, they put filming the hunt over a good shot and excellent setup on elk, they showed at elast 3 shots that got like 4" of penetration ............ I'll not be watching that one again.

But in comparison, Jack Brittinghams elephant hunt was a joke too, and Buckmasters wasa waste of time as well. Only Primos seemed semi real and that was because they seem to love the hunting and the deer and thats whats lacking in the others IMO.

I remember why I quit watching all those shows now [:'(]

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Sorry to hear you puked your guts out. Guess you can go back to watching Desperate Houswives.
I like the show myself.

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datamax, i am with u![:'(] i thought the whole scent control spill was crap! they have a great set-up on a bull(small at that) and what do u here? changed clothes to much, no head gear! and then they say this team was the only team to harvest an elk![:-] wow they must of done a few things right!
i felt the same way about tonights line-up, not to good. i have gotten to where i can't watch some of those shows![:'(]i just hate all the editing, u only see the game the shot and them sitting with the game. i like primos, they tell tou why the are in the tree they picked. and u see some of the goofs, like the doe shot! i just like it more real. maybe i just am differant, but texas hunts just seem to bore me on t.v. it maybe differant when u are the one hunting?[&:]

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Manboy,

I agree withyou 100% on what you said aboutboth the Dream Season and Primos shows (definately oneof the only ones I feel is worth actually sitting down and watching on outdoor channel any more)and all the Texas hunts ain't my cup of tea either.

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A guy sitting in a treestand on public land waiting to blast a 1 1/2 year old 4 pointer aint my cup of tea either.

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I only watch three shows. Primos, Archers Choice, and Spirit of the Wild. Occasionally I will watch The Drury boys, but not dream season.

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Yeah , there are certain things I like to see in a video too , but I also realize that Dream Season is a series with a time slot. Probably alot of editing done to get it down to their time slot , and most of the time the editing is done by the network. I like the whole concept of the team challenge thing , it makes it more interesting than the rest of the ho-hum hunting/infomercial shows.

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That 4 pointer is by FAR a better trophy than your pen raised 140" 8 point "management" buck !! LOL - and THAT is exactly why I am beginning to hate outdoor TV. They are NOT helping the cause of hunting, they're prostituting it

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Prostituting? They are no different now then they were before. If you dont like them there is an easy solution to the problem. Dont watch them. Maybe you wont "puke" anymore.

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shuler44 Its very far from what I consider hunting. Its killing, its deer farming .......... many of the TV shows are not Hunting as I know it nor Hunting as I'd like the rest of the world to know. As I have said before, if this is what Hunting is to be ......... I want no part of it.

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A hunting show is a hunting show I will watch anything that revolves around my past time, also In Ontario there is NO hunting shows on regular TV so enjoy what you can!!

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Thats the whole point .......... enjoying watching a couple of yahoo's tear apart the way a guy films a hunt, making scent control the #1 priority to puch Scent Blocker, making it a reality show pitting professional hunters against ammateurs ? Enjoy that ? I don't think so. I did like a few things about the show, like the doe kills, the family involvement, the travel and all, but damn it could have been a good show if they hadnt commercialized it so and removed what hunting IS from much of the show.

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I dont watch the channel anymore. They are breeding a new type hunter.I see them around here.All they think they have to do is buy 5000 dollars worth of stuff .Dress like a model hunter in a magazine and purchase a 40,000 dollar truck and the deer will drop over in front of them.they trespass cause they feel they own the world. The daylight dummiescome in late and leave early messing the real hunters up.They wound animals and no idea or to lazy to follow up.Them type hunters sicken me also.But as I go drive bywith my 70.00 carmy trunk full of deer. And I/mdressed in sneakers jogging outfit I just smile.And wave .

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Now I would pay to see that CD...:).

I always enjoyed watching the Sunday night on TNN hunting lineup..Realtree, Mossy Oak, Buckmasters, etc... Granted, the repeated pushing of products took away from the essence of the show but it was better than watching some of the others shows being aired at that time.

I haven't had time to sit down and watch any of those shows lately...and I am not even sure they are televised on anything besides the Outdoor Channel which I don't even get. It would seem that they have really gone down hill by what you folks are relating.

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Here's a thought--turn the channel!If you guys think it's so easy why don't any of you have hunting shows of your own?Then you could show the world how it SHOULD be done:D:D[:'(][X(]:eek:.

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I was a little busy, I watched but wasn't paying too much attention. Pretty much if there is a hunting show on tv I'll watch it. I am smart enough to sort thru the sponsor crap and just watch the show. I like to see the animals and thier reactions. There are a few that really make you shake your head a time or 2, but wait 30 more minutes and another show will be on. It's that simple.

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I only watch realtree and knight and hale. Although I have to say this years knight and hale(XI) is kind of weak. I thought about getting drury's video but I am not sure yet.

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I enjoyed last year's show but I watched Dream Season last night and I was only mildly interested and then their show (Wildlife Obsession) came on and I just turned it off in the middle and went to sleep. Last year I enjoyed both of the shows but I think they have gotten too far away the hunting basics.I did enjoy Primos show last night as always. I am sure that some of the Drury shows will be more interesting to me than last night's were but I must say that I really was not impressed last night.

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I thought North American Whitetail Television was a really good show last season. Looking forward to the new season. I also like Realtree Roadtrips and some of the other shows.

Some of the shows are too commercial but many are quite good. A lot of the complaining is jealousy or sour grapes.

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Yeah, I was watching that last night thinking it was just a long ScentLok commercial. When they started gigging those guys for not wearing their ScentLok completely and using leafy clothing which I guess wasn't Scent Lok, I couldn't believe what I was hearing.[:@] I won't be watching that one again either. As far as Scent Lok is concerned, I think it is the biggest con job in hunting today. I don't need Scent Lok, just experience and common sense.

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I prefer Knight and Hale, Primos, Wild Outdoors and North American Whitetail(I like Greg Miller better than Stan or Pat).

Too much commercialism, although the sponsors pay the bills. I don't care much for Dream Season.....I detest the format and idea of the contest.

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The thing I don't like about most of the hunting shows on TV is that they get some celebrity and go to a ranch with a guide. The guide sets them up in a blind or tree stand and then a bunch of deer walk by and they shoot the biggest buck. Yes, you have to be a good shot, you have to not spook the game but where is all the hard work that most of us put into hunting? I realize that these shows have time slots and it would take hours to show a successful hunt from start to finish but it just gets old seeing the same cookie cutter footage all the time. I like seeing the animals in their natural habitat but thats about it. The sponsor's advertisment eats up 10 minutes of the show and commercials another 10 so you really only get about 10 minutes of actual hunting footage. Someone has a sig that says "If it was easy, they would call it shopping." Well, that's what most of these shows come off as. Buy $5,000 worth of gear and spend 30 minutes in a tree and you will get a monster buck!

Just my 2 cents.

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I find myself both agreeing and disagreeing with a lot of the points that are being brought up. Here's my take on things:

First of all - they're TV shows. Look at any other shows in any other market, and you're going to see the type of stuff. The sponsors are the ones who make the show possible, so of course you're going to see people using and endorsing their products on their shows. This isn't anything new, so why are you getting all worked up about it?A lot of hunting shows even have theirlead sponsor's name IN THE TITLE OF THE SHOW. I just don't understand why it's so shockingly terrible when all of a sudden the people on the show are saying how they used brand X to harvest their animal and they recommend it's use to other hunters.

In regards to Dream Season in particular - I think it's a great show myself. Agree or disagree with whether or not scent blocking/eliminating clothing works, it doesn't matter. The basis of the show is to have a team competition in all aspects of what the producers and judges consider to be vital areas of not only hunting, but filming as well. With a company like Scent Blocker on board of course they're going to stress the importance of using their products properly. These guys all knew what they signed up for when they sent in their audition tapes, and should be prepared to be judged accordingly.

As for the amateurs vs. professionals thing - give me a break. What makes these "professional" hunters any better suited than the other guys on the show? Talk to any person in the hunting industry who hunts for a living and they will all say the same thing - "I'm just a regular person like you who loves to hunt, and I am fortunate enough to be able to earn a living doing it." The thing with Dream Season is that the "pros" don't hunt for a living. The only difference between them and the rest of the guys is that they have previous experience with filming and producing hunts they way that Drury Productions wants it done. The whole "pros" versus "ams" is a little played up for TV, but it is a good marketing tool that gets people fired up and holds their attention. Can you blame any good marketing agency for doing their job?

This is where the double edged sword really gets me- as much as I enjoy watching the TV shows and the DVD's, it absolutely kills me to see some of the things people do to shoot a big deer on camera. Some of the shot placement I've seen in recent years has been nothing but horrendous, and then they turn to the camera and say "All right! Got him! He's down right there!" Granted there have been a few times when people say "You know what, I got a bad hit on that animal so I'm gonna back out and let it lay and come back tomorrow". But it's those bad shots - the quartering-in shots, the neck shots, the running/moving shots that really just get to me. These aren't "mistakes"- these are shots that peoplemethodically take on purpose, IMO just to have some footage totake up time on a TV show or video.

In truth, I think the video/tv industry is right on that edge between effectively promoting our sport and giving people something to get them fired up about hunting, and hurting us as a whole with the quest for more, bigger bucks year after year. Look at the pressure many of us put on ourselves to shoot trophy deer every year - then imagine if you were a hunting "celebrity" and had to try and please not only the people who watch and buy your videos, but your sponsors who pay your bills as well. It's tough.

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Well said justin.

The drury bros, say it themselves that they are trying a format to be different and set themselves apart from the mainstream hunting show. Some are going to like it, some hate it. You can't blame them for trying something a little different. If they see thier ratings drop, they'll do what it takes to make people watch again.

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I don't like Dream Season. I don't like the idea of hunting is a compitition between men. The first season was 2 guys managing thier land (using sponcers products). That was ok as a primis but it was not good tv. Compitition hunting is a bad primis.

There are many shows I like. For those of you with dish network check out The Men's Channel (218). There are some good shows there.

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I will pretty much only watch the following shows:

Wildlife Obsession- Drury boys
The Wild Outdoors- Jay Gregory
Archers Choice- Ralph and Vickie
The Fever-.... Can't remember, but I like him
Closing the Distance- Same as above
North American Whitetail- Greg Miller, and support

I will watch Primos, Realtree, Mossy Oak, etc, but only if they are bowhunting whitetails in the Midwest or South....

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Change the channel .... or better yet, get off the couch and go do something. ;)

When I do watch hunting shows, I like the Drury's.. Archer's Choice.. Realtree Roadtrips.. but my very favorite is the Outdoor Moments. They had an entire show dedicated to shooting woodchucks.. I loved it.

The worst hunting show is any show that features turkey hunting. (ugh)

Anyhow, you boys enjoy arguing over tv shows... I'll be out shooting stuff. (you should try it!)
:D

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[align=left]TXhighrack:[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]Easy there big fella...I wasn't trying to personally attack you or your homestate. Its just, in my opinion, not real world hunting for most people across the country(outside of Texas) to havesix 10-pts. come in on every hunt or 15 longbeards come in gobbling at one time. I realize that it takes alot of planning, management, moneyand work to get your huntingup tothis level. I don't hunt public land, but you're right...most people around here would shot that 4-pt., however, times are changing and people are slowly stating to come around with the whole QDM thing. As for that 4-pt., I bet that hewould weigh about the same as one of your 6-yr. old"picket fenceon his head" bucks anyways :D.Just kidding. You just keep drinking your cup of tea and I'll keep drinking mine (although I'd much rather have a cold beer any day) and we'll leave it at that. [/align]

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txhighrack, if u think that was a 11/2 year old...i think i would pass on having u do any management for me!;) and that is what is wrong with most of the show anymore, people only think about bigger and bigger bucks. and it is all about the $$$$ just as texas wants high fences, for the cash!
heres one for u, hunting is a (family heritage) when was the last time u seen some of these shows have a youngster do some hunting?or even a 3-4 min. spot on a pond catching blue gill? we all need to start making choices about gear, clothing, and other hunting items, from sponcers who promote hunting not just shooting the biggest deer! and buy from makers that help the hunting world not hurt it!
just my .02

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You all should be happy you have multiple hunting shows to choose from on Outdoor Channel. I don't get it with my cable provider! :(

I only have OLN, which is sort of okay - as long as I don't watch that arrogant, pompous, Tred Barta show! [:@]

I also get TNN/Spike-TV - but it totally sucks, because they completely took off ALL hunting shows!! (maybe just in my area), but serious, they don't show ANY hunting at all. Nada. Zero!:(

Butch A.

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Sorry about that quote mess up. What I was trying to say is that I would go shoot after work if it wasn't 100 degrees when I get home. I will shoot sometimes right before dark when it gets down to 95.

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Grizzlyman.. that's what night bowfishing is for. ;)[8D]
You live in a good area for bowfishing too!

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I haven't been in early enough in the evenings to lately to catch Dream Season but I did like last years show. I was under the impression that all teams picked were going to be everyday Joe hunters (amatures) but I guess not. I assume the winners will probably be like last year. PROS. I guess their pros though.. I mean just because they kill big deer makes them pros. Well I know alot of people that kill big deer regularly and don't do it on hunting ranches. Most all of these shows are w/ outfitters. I mean any guy who has never hunted and suddenly decides he would like a big buck to hang on the wall can most generally pay a guide enough money and get one. And those people that stand up on there soap box and preach this crap about I don't shoot it unless it's at least 180'' well good for you. You'll probably only kill 1 buck in your lifetime. I mean seriously unless your paying a outfitter or deer farmer to put you on one how many 180+ deer do you think you'll kill in your lifetime. You should have your own show. Most all the bucks I see killed on these shows don't even break the out of the 140's. And most are in the 120-130 class. I like to hold out for the big buck ,but most generally take home a deer in the 120-130 class too and I think that is a very respectable deer if you've done your own homework and earned that deer honestly. There is just alot of HYPE and B[:'(]LLSH[&o]T associated w/ deer hunting now. It has completely taken away from the true sport of BOWHUNTING not TROPHY BOWHUNTING. Well I might have gotten off of the subject of the shows but I've been reading all these posts lately about BIG DEER and THE PROS and had to put my 2 cents in wrong or right.

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That was an excellent post HNIJustin, well said and I agree with all your thoughts.

My opinion so far on Dream Season 2 - not near as interesting as last year and the pushing of products does seem to be increasing. But I guess this is a business for them while we all hunt for a hobby.

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Hey all, don't post very often but had to put in my two cents also. Caught the second season of dream season last night and was absolutely digusted with amount of emphasis put on wearing scent lok clothing. That just turned me off from the show right there and I absolutely loved the show last season. Primo's Truth is by far the best hunting show on the Outdoor Channel. Those guys have genuine fun in hunting. For those guys it is all about the hunt.

I am not going to get into the debate about where hunting shows are going, but I agree with a lot of what is being said that some of the shows (not all) are spending too much time hunting on ranches and with outfitters.

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What is is about the emphasis on scent control that is turning you off from the show? Is it the fact that you don't believe it works, or the fact that you dont' believe the contest should be judged based upon how well a team performs in regards to proper scent control techniques?

The thing that I don't get is that people complain that this competition is all about shooting big bucks while hunting with an outfitter and that's wrong, but then they put the focus elswhere and people say the reason they don't watch the show is that there is too much emphasis placed on scent control clothing and products.

I guess you can never please everybody.

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Sorry for this off topic comment but I just had to say...

GizzMaN! You da man!

If God wanted me to be a vegetarian, he would have made venison taste like brocoli...

ROTFLMAO

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Well when a show is putting more emphasis on wearing scent lok clothing then the actual hunt, then there is something wrong. You are putting the product before everything else. Scent control is important, but since when does wearing Scent Lok actually determine that you are performing "proper" scent control? I am not trying to start a debate, but I am sorry, Scent Lok is not the necessity you need to hunt with as the show would make you think.

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cardeer gets it

jsasker- I couldn't have my own show because I dont think I would hunt all those places and feel good about shooting buck after buck, especially the rifle hunt shows where they just sit in a blind and watch dozens of dozens of bucks before picking one out.

G2 Shooter gets it

AmanitaVerna thats another point. Thats the first TV I've watched in about 3 months. Can anyone else say that ? My new place has me balls to the wall and 55-60 hour work weeks (nights) on top of that. And the first hunting show I watch is Dream Season ?

[:'(][:'(][:'(]

HNIJustin The scent control thing is a farse. Why ? Te very first thing they pointed out in each hunt was the scent control. Piss on that, look at the HUNT, the preperation, the attitude of the guys, the success they have prior to the kill/shot and afterwards .......... but no, because Scent Blocker is their sponsor they are bound to them. Its sad - they sold their Hunting sould to their sponsor. Look at the teams that they bashed for scent control - they were successful none the less, were they not ? Almost every bit as successful as the " pro " hunters without all the money backing them. That tells me a LOT, and gains me even more respect for those doing it themselves vs those taking every shortcut in the world so they can kill and fill tags

Primos does, don't they ?


Lucius111 gets it