Wolf Dog, do you work for Hypershock? I`m curious because your really plugging them and when I check your previous posts I see every post you`ve ever made is a plug for them. If you are affiliated with the company in some way please just state that up front. There`s a number of people who work for manufactures on here and that ok, just say so up front.
Has 5-shot tested them?

He must work for them. [&:]

Sorry but I have to take what any "pro staffer" or other paid affiliates have to say about a product with a grain of salt. There are way too many products out there that are suppose to be the "best" because so and so gets paid to use them but after wasting my money trying them I have too many times come to find out that they are nothing that was hyped up by a "pro staffer" or advertising. Some have turned out to be pure junk.

I'm not saying that the hypershock is junk and will not kill animals because it will.

I am saying that IMHO a four bladed 1 1/8th inch entrance hole is far more diesirable than a field point hole especially if there is no exit hole.

I am saying that a short steel furrel is much stronger than a long aluminum one.

I am saying that two .035" thick blades making up four cutting surfaces locked into a furrel in such a way that they can not come out unless taken apart is much stronger than two long .032" thick 1 3/8 inch long blades held by two very small screws and no support of any kind other than the little tabs.

I am saying that a steel chisel tip is much stronger than an aluminum chisel tip no matter the anondizing process.

Yes and for a broadhead that is suppose to conserve energy in order to aid penetration it couldn't make it through both sides of the steel drum like the slick trick did. Heck the baldes didn't even have to cut anything yet it could only manage to stick the tip in the back wall of the drum.


Oh yeah,.............. please post the results of shooting head to head a slick trick and a hypershock of the same weights, on the same shafts, out of the same bow, set up exactly the same and properly tuned for both heads out of the X-RING machine. I, as well as others I think, would be very curious to see them.

Okay, question about the "Hypershock". What happens if you don't get a full pass-thru? You have a small entrance hole and no exit hole. Sorry, I think that I will stick with a b-head that is gonna open up and leave a good hole going in. Most bows made today are chucking arrows with enough KE to get pass-thru on deer sized game so with a sharp b-head, penetration isn't really the biggest thing to look for! I want something that is going to do as much damage as possible while also standing up to the punishment of shooting an animal!

Big bull once again you speak in fear not Fact.

Pro Staff or not it is about credentials. Please do not disrespect a 17-year-old 1st class shooter in the sport of archery.

Please do your homework on materials before making an incorrect statement like that?
This is not a pop can and a $1,000,000.00 Race Car or a Fighter Jet that uses the same technology is not a pop can ether. This is what I said in the last reply YOU DO NOT WANT TO LISTER AND LEARN you have the brakes on and other just pass you by.

You keep trying to show that a 2-inch or 2 ¾ inch head should penetrate a steel barrel the same way the Slick Trick does let do this the other way.

Give the Slick Trick 2 ¾ inch blades and see how well it will fly and if you can hit the barrel what happens next?

You can get the HyperShock with 1 3/8 blades up to 2 ¾ your choice. Your lack of information taints you knowledge again with the entrance hole. The HyperShock cuts a thumb size hole with a 7/8 to 1 inch slice also.

And if you do not get a pass through you get a dead animal that will drop in sight because of massive damage do to 2 to 3 times the cut of any broadhead that has 1 1/8 inch cut.

Fact the more you cut the faster the game dies!

I work for the Anodizing plant that Anodizes 90% of the worlds TYPE Ibis HC.
That world be for the military also they like Type Ibis HC pop cans to defend the U.S.A.

I work for the Anodizing plant that Anodizes 90% of the worlds TYPE IIIs HC.
That would be for the military also they like Type IIIs HC pop cans to defend the U.S.A.

I do not know what happend.

Hypershocks are the real deal. My results with them have been awesome. Fly great and haven't had an animal get out of sight yet.

Wolf,

Newer is not always better. FB broadheads have been killing everything from deer to bison sincebefore first indian learned how to sharpen a flint. I've heard a lot of horror stories of mechanicals deflecting on non-right angle hits, or failing to expand, or breaking off the relatively fragile blades, or failing to pass throughand/or make a large enough entry wound toallow the animal to bleedout. As for arrow flight, if you tune your bow like you should, then there's no reason FB broadheads shouldn't fly well. The may not hit exactly where your field points do, but are you so lazy that you can't make a few minor adjustments for broadheads? In my mind, the advantages of the FB outweigh the convienience of a mech. To each their own I guess.

Mike

A hypershock is about 1.5 inches from the tip to the blade deploying tabs. So the blades go in about 1.5 inches then they open up. Now what happens if you happen to shoot an animal such as an elk or moose in the shoulder? You got about a half inch of hair, an eighth inch of skin, then about two - three inches of muscle, and finally about a half inch thick bone. It would seem that the blades should be open by the time they get to the scapula so my questions are................ How will the hypershock fair getting those huge blades through the scapula and into the vitals of a large 800 pound bull elk or 1500 pound moose? How much energy would be required to push a 2 - 2.75 inch cut head into the vitals through this kind of shot? Would the blades hold up well enough to still cut the lungs on a shot like this if they did get through the scapula?


Just honest questions looking for honest answers.


BTW, a broadhead, race car and air plane do not use the same materials in the same way. A broadhead must withstand a crushing impact, an airplane must withstand flexing and a one million dollar racecar is made of carbon fiber and not aluminum. The part of a race car that has to withstand a crushing impact (roll cage) is made of steel or titanium and not aluminum.

As far as a slick trick needing 2.75 inch blades it doesn't. It has four cutting surfaces extending out from the center 5/8ths of an inch each for a total tissue cut of 2.5 inches (.625 X 4 = 2.5). Larger than the 100 grain hypershocks 2" cut and just a quarter inch shy of the 125 grain hypershock. It cuts 2.5 inches of tissue all the time every time with out fail.

The 2.75 inch head didn't even have to cut anything going in and still didn't penetrate the back wall. The blades were not even deployed going through the first side of the steel drum. However I would like to see what they would look like if they did have to go through the first side. But that's not the design of the head.

Wolf,

Q: Newer is not always better.
A: Correct Advanced technology is the point. The Slick Trick is not NEW in design.
Andbrings no advancement to the hunter.

Q:I've heard a lot of horror stories of mechanicals deflecting on non-right angle hits, or failing to expand, or breaking off the relatively fragile blades, or failing to pass throughand/or make a large enough entry wound toallow the animal to bleedout.

A: This also shows you post about a product you did not try to learn about. All the issues you talk about is why the HyperShock was made!
www.aftershockarchery.com please do more than look at nicepictures.
For a guy that has a New BowTech top $$$ with state of the art cams?
O that’s right new is not better what did I say

Big Bull it would be a dead Elk.

Please try not to shoot an animal in the shoulder you need to practice more and take your time and wait for a better shot.

The 2000# Buffalo and theLarge Moose shot by Dave and Bob pictures on the web are dead must be a miracle.

That talk is not hunting what if what if.
A hunter takes the best shot at the best time to kill the game he or she is hunting.
If you cant do that much don't go in the woods.