Magnocks product review.
08-11-2002, 12:53 PM
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Magnocks product review.
Magnocks are a new type of arrow nocking system
and they consist of a two-part system. A magnetic
receiver and an arrow nock. The receiver ties on
to your bowstring, and looks much like a
conventional arrow nock. The nock portion of the
system fits into the arrow shaft or uni-bushing
like most conventional nocks. The receiver
contains a small magnet that holds the steel ball
in the nock together until the force of the
bowstring pulls them apart on release, just as a
conventional nock would release from the string.
The difference is that with the Magnock the
release is much smoother. A conventional nock
snaps on the string, and has to snap off as well.
The Magnock system lets go with much less force.
I have been playing around with the system on
several different bows for a month or so now, and
one thing I can tell you this is not a gimmick!
The system does work, and works well. The
manufacture makes many claims about the Magnock
system, and to be honest I was not able to
disprove any of them, and in fact from the tests
I was able to perform I believe their claims to
be true.
First, the Magnock is said to provide a smoother
release of the arrow, that in turn reduces the
amount of flexing that the arrow goes through
upon release. I don't have any high-speed video
equipment to prove or disprove this, but shooting
bare shafts through paper with and without the
Magnock seems to indicate that the shafts do
indeed flex less.
The 2nd claim is that by using the Magnock you
can shoot smaller fletched arrows and still get
good accuracy with fixed blade broadheads. I
found this to be true also, although the results
varied with which bow I was using. I compared the
accuracy of the same arrows and Muzzy 100 grain 3
blade broadheads. One group of arrows had 5”
vanes, while the other group had 3” vanes, all
fletched right helical. I preformed the tests
with the Magnock installed, and then without,
using conventional nocks. In all cases the
Magnock gave much better accuracy with the
smaller fletched arrows compared to conventional
nocks. With the larger vanes the difference was
not so noticeable, in fact I can't honestly say
there was any difference, but like I said you
could see a big difference with the smaller
fletched arrows.
One major benefit I can see with the Magnock
system is the reduced serving wear from
constantly nocking the arrow directly to the
string. Since the nock portion hooks into the
receiver you eliminate the normal wear associated
with conventional nocks. This combined with a
D-loop (which the Magnock requires) pretty much
eliminates most serving wear, or at least that
has-been my findings in the limited shooting I
have done.
The Magnock system does add some weight to your
arrow and string. The large (super-nock size)
nocks weigh 12 grains apiece and fit standard
uni-bushings, and the receiver weighs 21 grains.
Since adding weight to either the arrow or string
will reduce your arrow speed this is something to
keep in mind. The effects of the speed loss are
not as much as it would seem though. When
comparing the Magnock with conventional nocks I
could not tell any difference in points of impact
at ranges of 30 yards or closer. At longer ranges
40 to 60 yards the Magnock arrows actually
impacted an average of 2” higher than those with
conventional nocks.
I don’t have a chronograph any more, "a 300grain
44 magnum bullet did mine in," so I can’t say how
much speed is lost initially, but it would seem
that downrange you might actually loose less
speed over a conventional nock system. I can’t
confirm that though. Even if I could I am not so
sure I would want to shoot through the
chronograph at 60 yards, especially after what
happened to my last one!
I also found that the Magnock system is more
tolerant of arrow spine. You can get by with a
weaker spine arrow compared to conventional
nocks, or at least on the bows I tried them on
that was the case.
I spent a lot of time playing around and testing
out the Magnock, and am pretty confident that
they do work just as advertised. In every test I
did I made sure that the bow was tuned, and that
the tests were as consistent as possible. By no
means do I claim that my testing methods are
scientific or that everyone will have the same
results, but on the three bows I tried them on,
the results were good to excellent.
They are not an answer to all your shooting
problems, and it does take some work getting used
to them like nocking an arrow. It was much slower
at first, but as time went on I found that I
could do it almost as fast as I can with standard
nocks. I guess after 20 years of using standard
nocks a few weeks of time is not all that bad to
relearn a new system.
If you are interested in Magnock you can check
them out at www.magnock.com. I do believe they
are worth checking out, and I am going to keep
them installed on one of my backup bows and
continue to play around with them. If I find any
problems or positives I will be sure and update
everyone. As for now, I can really find nothing
wrong with them and I can see many advantages.
But like anything new it will take time to get
used to them.
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and they consist of a two-part system. A magnetic
receiver and an arrow nock. The receiver ties on
to your bowstring, and looks much like a
conventional arrow nock. The nock portion of the
system fits into the arrow shaft or uni-bushing
like most conventional nocks. The receiver
contains a small magnet that holds the steel ball
in the nock together until the force of the
bowstring pulls them apart on release, just as a
conventional nock would release from the string.
The difference is that with the Magnock the
release is much smoother. A conventional nock
snaps on the string, and has to snap off as well.
The Magnock system lets go with much less force.
I have been playing around with the system on
several different bows for a month or so now, and
one thing I can tell you this is not a gimmick!
The system does work, and works well. The
manufacture makes many claims about the Magnock
system, and to be honest I was not able to
disprove any of them, and in fact from the tests
I was able to perform I believe their claims to
be true.
First, the Magnock is said to provide a smoother
release of the arrow, that in turn reduces the
amount of flexing that the arrow goes through
upon release. I don't have any high-speed video
equipment to prove or disprove this, but shooting
bare shafts through paper with and without the
Magnock seems to indicate that the shafts do
indeed flex less.
The 2nd claim is that by using the Magnock you
can shoot smaller fletched arrows and still get
good accuracy with fixed blade broadheads. I
found this to be true also, although the results
varied with which bow I was using. I compared the
accuracy of the same arrows and Muzzy 100 grain 3
blade broadheads. One group of arrows had 5”
vanes, while the other group had 3” vanes, all
fletched right helical. I preformed the tests
with the Magnock installed, and then without,
using conventional nocks. In all cases the
Magnock gave much better accuracy with the
smaller fletched arrows compared to conventional
nocks. With the larger vanes the difference was
not so noticeable, in fact I can't honestly say
there was any difference, but like I said you
could see a big difference with the smaller
fletched arrows.
One major benefit I can see with the Magnock
system is the reduced serving wear from
constantly nocking the arrow directly to the
string. Since the nock portion hooks into the
receiver you eliminate the normal wear associated
with conventional nocks. This combined with a
D-loop (which the Magnock requires) pretty much
eliminates most serving wear, or at least that
has-been my findings in the limited shooting I
have done.
The Magnock system does add some weight to your
arrow and string. The large (super-nock size)
nocks weigh 12 grains apiece and fit standard
uni-bushings, and the receiver weighs 21 grains.
Since adding weight to either the arrow or string
will reduce your arrow speed this is something to
keep in mind. The effects of the speed loss are
not as much as it would seem though. When
comparing the Magnock with conventional nocks I
could not tell any difference in points of impact
at ranges of 30 yards or closer. At longer ranges
40 to 60 yards the Magnock arrows actually
impacted an average of 2” higher than those with
conventional nocks.
I don’t have a chronograph any more, "a 300grain
44 magnum bullet did mine in," so I can’t say how
much speed is lost initially, but it would seem
that downrange you might actually loose less
speed over a conventional nock system. I can’t
confirm that though. Even if I could I am not so
sure I would want to shoot through the
chronograph at 60 yards, especially after what
happened to my last one!
I also found that the Magnock system is more
tolerant of arrow spine. You can get by with a
weaker spine arrow compared to conventional
nocks, or at least on the bows I tried them on
that was the case.
I spent a lot of time playing around and testing
out the Magnock, and am pretty confident that
they do work just as advertised. In every test I
did I made sure that the bow was tuned, and that
the tests were as consistent as possible. By no
means do I claim that my testing methods are
scientific or that everyone will have the same
results, but on the three bows I tried them on,
the results were good to excellent.
They are not an answer to all your shooting
problems, and it does take some work getting used
to them like nocking an arrow. It was much slower
at first, but as time went on I found that I
could do it almost as fast as I can with standard
nocks. I guess after 20 years of using standard
nocks a few weeks of time is not all that bad to
relearn a new system.
If you are interested in Magnock you can check
them out at www.magnock.com. I do believe they
are worth checking out, and I am going to keep
them installed on one of my backup bows and
continue to play around with them. If I find any
problems or positives I will be sure and update
everyone. As for now, I can really find nothing
wrong with them and I can see many advantages.
But like anything new it will take time to get
used to them.
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08-12-2002, 01:37 PM
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Location: Flowery Branch Ga. 30542
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RE: Magnocks product review.
I had got the magnock system and tried it also. I found the arrow flight to be good, but both of my receivers blew up after about 100 shots. I mean I couldn't even find pieces. So I went back to regular nocks.
time marches on: One day I get a letter in the mail telling me I could upgrade my receivers ect ect. so I email magnock man and explain I have nothing to sent in as both receivers blew up.
About a week later I get two new recievers in the mail with some new inserts for the arrows. A letter explaining that they had a problem with some receivers and I must have gotten some bad ones.
So Now I guess I'll give them another try on my target set up. As I too found out that they do help in the accuracy department...
So Magnock is a company that will stand behind thier product. No complaints with the coustomer service. Rated 5 stars!!!
time marches on: One day I get a letter in the mail telling me I could upgrade my receivers ect ect. so I email magnock man and explain I have nothing to sent in as both receivers blew up.
About a week later I get two new recievers in the mail with some new inserts for the arrows. A letter explaining that they had a problem with some receivers and I must have gotten some bad ones.
So Now I guess I'll give them another try on my target set up. As I too found out that they do help in the accuracy department...
So Magnock is a company that will stand behind thier product. No complaints with the coustomer service. Rated 5 stars!!!
08-12-2002, 10:47 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Washington State
Posts: 382
RE: Magnocks product review.
5 shot:
Is the magnetic force sufficient to keep the arrow nocked if the shaft is bumped or the bow roughly jostled? The first thing I thought about when I saw this system is a vision of an arrow falling from the magnetic nock just half a moment before the release is triggered. Dryfire.
Bottom line question: Is this nock system sturdy enough for hunting?
Is the magnetic force sufficient to keep the arrow nocked if the shaft is bumped or the bow roughly jostled? The first thing I thought about when I saw this system is a vision of an arrow falling from the magnetic nock just half a moment before the release is triggered. Dryfire.
Bottom line question: Is this nock system sturdy enough for hunting?
08-13-2002, 04:11 AM
#4
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Magnocks product review.
I belive the system holds the arrows as securely as a conventional nock. I didn't do any testing in this area, but in my shooting I never got the impression that that the arrow would come off to easily. Infact I have yet to have one come off unless I wanted it to.
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08-13-2002, 12:02 PM
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RE: Magnocks product review.
5 Shot,
As you said they require a string loop I assume you can't use them with fingers?
(I know, stupid question but it never hurts to ask <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>)
Greg
"Getting close to the game is the joy of Bowhunting for me, the harvest is a bonus."
Live 15 ft Python after eating a small Antelope!
As you said they require a string loop I assume you can't use them with fingers?
(I know, stupid question but it never hurts to ask <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>)
Greg
"Getting close to the game is the joy of Bowhunting for me, the harvest is a bonus."
Live 15 ft Python after eating a small Antelope!
08-13-2002, 07:09 PM
#7
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Magnocks product review.
You can use them with fingers, infact there are instructions on how to use them in that mannor. The Website I belive has some information on the subject. Moonge, I won't be using them this year, mainly becuase It's too close to the season opener for me to change. I get boogerd up enough when deer come in, LOL. I may however use them next year. I still have a lot of "playing" around to do with them. I basicly wanted to put out the information for those who may be intrested but belived that they may be a "gimmick". Once bow season is over and I have time to relearn a new system I will put them on and doing a lot more shooting. I would just hate to get under pressure and mess up becuase I was not totaly familer with them. Those that pick up on things faster probably wouldn't have any trouble though.
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