"Give me a break!"
08-04-2002, 05:05 PM
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"Give me a break!"
When I hear or read ads that offend my intelligence and disregard I have common sense, the manufacturer or retailer of the product has immediately and greatly diminished my interest, and possibly lost my patronage. My final decision (purchase) corresponds with how outrageous the claim(s) is/are, and whether or not it is clear that the product quality and performance is sufficient for my requirement regardless of claim(s).
If the representative claims of the product are not realistic, practical, or unmistakably contradicts and/or exaggerates fact, I am suspect of the company's over-all integrity (trouble and warranty service) and quality control.
The bottom line is; manufacturers and retailers stand to lose business when they try to cram "chump tickets" down the throats of consumers. If I purchase an item knowing full well that the product is low on the scale of quality and performance, and the product breaks, malfunctions, or does not perform well, I have nothing to complain about. On the other hand, if the product does not meet the claims as advertised, I will not buy the product again, I will not recommend the product, and I will describe why I personally do not recommend the product.
Today, I was researching the alleged quality and performance of a particular broadhead target. The target appears to be one that will perform sufficiently well, however, some of the manufacturer's claims are, in my personal opinion, ridiculous and improbable. The target is constructed of unglued vertical layers of COMPRESSED foam. Ok, that is practical. However, now comes the pitch to try to sell me some "chump tickets."
In the ad, the manufacturer claims that that the target stops an arrow by the "squeezing" of the shaft. An attempt to visually support this claim (squeezing) is done by an illustrated drawing of a shaft with a field point, and the target. The illustration depicts that the arrow has precisely hit the seam between two of the COMPRESSED layers of foam, and that the COMPRESSED layers have precisely and neatly parted the entire length of the of the shaft's penetration, and that the shaft has not veered off course while traveling perfectly through the seam of the COMPRESSED layers of foam.
Then, as though the illustration was not sufficient enough to defy your intelligence, possibility, there is a colored photo showing a 2-blade broadhead having precisely entered the seam between two COMPRESSED layers of foam. The layers have neatly parted out of the way of the broadhead and the blades are perfectly vertical and in line with the seam. The colored photo is to support a claim, that when shooting from a tree stand the broadheads will enter the vertical seams rather than punch through foam that is layered horizontally.
Do I need to explain what the probability is or is not, for a field point or broadhead to precisely hit a seam and for COMPRESSED layers of foam to conveniently and precisely part as the shaft penetrates in an accurate path that would put the space shuttle to shame? What about broadheads having more than 2 blades? What about mechanicals?
Though the target might not be able achieve what is alleged, and I personally do not believe it can and I would have to see unquestionable and factual demonstrations before I would change my opinion, in this case the questionable claim(s) does not mean the target does not meet (just) the standard capabilities of a broadhead target.
"Give me a break!" <img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle>
Edited by - c903 on 08/05/2002 04:20:16
If the representative claims of the product are not realistic, practical, or unmistakably contradicts and/or exaggerates fact, I am suspect of the company's over-all integrity (trouble and warranty service) and quality control.
The bottom line is; manufacturers and retailers stand to lose business when they try to cram "chump tickets" down the throats of consumers. If I purchase an item knowing full well that the product is low on the scale of quality and performance, and the product breaks, malfunctions, or does not perform well, I have nothing to complain about. On the other hand, if the product does not meet the claims as advertised, I will not buy the product again, I will not recommend the product, and I will describe why I personally do not recommend the product.
Today, I was researching the alleged quality and performance of a particular broadhead target. The target appears to be one that will perform sufficiently well, however, some of the manufacturer's claims are, in my personal opinion, ridiculous and improbable. The target is constructed of unglued vertical layers of COMPRESSED foam. Ok, that is practical. However, now comes the pitch to try to sell me some "chump tickets."
In the ad, the manufacturer claims that that the target stops an arrow by the "squeezing" of the shaft. An attempt to visually support this claim (squeezing) is done by an illustrated drawing of a shaft with a field point, and the target. The illustration depicts that the arrow has precisely hit the seam between two of the COMPRESSED layers of foam, and that the COMPRESSED layers have precisely and neatly parted the entire length of the of the shaft's penetration, and that the shaft has not veered off course while traveling perfectly through the seam of the COMPRESSED layers of foam.
Then, as though the illustration was not sufficient enough to defy your intelligence, possibility, there is a colored photo showing a 2-blade broadhead having precisely entered the seam between two COMPRESSED layers of foam. The layers have neatly parted out of the way of the broadhead and the blades are perfectly vertical and in line with the seam. The colored photo is to support a claim, that when shooting from a tree stand the broadheads will enter the vertical seams rather than punch through foam that is layered horizontally.
Do I need to explain what the probability is or is not, for a field point or broadhead to precisely hit a seam and for COMPRESSED layers of foam to conveniently and precisely part as the shaft penetrates in an accurate path that would put the space shuttle to shame? What about broadheads having more than 2 blades? What about mechanicals?
Though the target might not be able achieve what is alleged, and I personally do not believe it can and I would have to see unquestionable and factual demonstrations before I would change my opinion, in this case the questionable claim(s) does not mean the target does not meet (just) the standard capabilities of a broadhead target.
"Give me a break!" <img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle>
Edited by - c903 on 08/05/2002 04:20:16
08-05-2002, 01:53 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: "Give me a break!"
c903...I know the exact add you are talking about. Saw it last week. LOL...marketing guru's.......<img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>
I'm still looking for a good broadhead target...one that will do what they say, and not break the bank...the best I've ever had was a 4ft x 4ft x 2ft solid styrofoam block that I got about 10 years ago. That thing lasted me about 7 years and it was great, because you could set it way off to practice long distance shooting without having to worry about missing the target and losing or tearing up your arrows.
I'm still looking for a good broadhead target...one that will do what they say, and not break the bank...the best I've ever had was a 4ft x 4ft x 2ft solid styrofoam block that I got about 10 years ago. That thing lasted me about 7 years and it was great, because you could set it way off to practice long distance shooting without having to worry about missing the target and losing or tearing up your arrows.
08-09-2002, 09:19 AM
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RE: "Give me a break!"
george s
If my wife were to read your comment and was able to meet you personally, she would probably give you a lecture about not feeding my profession induced suspicious and skeptic nature.
She hates it when I am watching television shows, or her choice of video movies, with her. Her two common comments (complaints) are; "Would you pleeeease just watch the show and be quiet!" and "They cannot hear you!"
If my wife were to read your comment and was able to meet you personally, she would probably give you a lecture about not feeding my profession induced suspicious and skeptic nature.
She hates it when I am watching television shows, or her choice of video movies, with her. Her two common comments (complaints) are; "Would you pleeeease just watch the show and be quiet!" and "They cannot hear you!"
08-10-2002, 10:50 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: "Give me a break!"
I agree with you about advertising being out of whack, but then if you really lived by the credence that you don't buy things that meet advertising specs you wouldn't buy anything. I mean, look at the B.S. we get on TV.
08-11-2002, 10:21 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: MARIETTA GA USA
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RE: "Give me a break!"
WV Hunter, I need to find one of those targets, if it keeps me from missing the target and loosing arrows at long distances. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
NUB, it's a Broadhead target, not a Buckshot target! LOL
Anyhoe, ya'll are right, don't believe everything you see/hear/read, and remember, only the paranoid survive.
Mike
Marietta, GA
NUB, it's a Broadhead target, not a Buckshot target! LOL
Anyhoe, ya'll are right, don't believe everything you see/hear/read, and remember, only the paranoid survive.
Mike
Marietta, GA
08-11-2002, 10:35 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Eveleth Minnesota USA
Posts: 134
RE: "Give me a break!"
Your talking about the block are,nt you. I agree with you I have had mine maybe 5 months and it does'nt look like it has much of a future.It's been a good target ,but the sickest thing about it is I paid $109 bucks for it four straw bails under ten bucks. the other thing is I got a mckenzie 3-D large alert deer for daddys day and the $89 dollar replacement section is almost comletely gone (since fathers day. Theres my 2 cents that did,nt cost me 2 cents
