I have the HCA Speed Pro 2009 super fast IBO 352. I have speed pro arrows shooting almost 400fps. 30" draw 70lb.

X-force hands down.

i really dont know,but just wanted to say thanks and you got my support
be safe and thanks again

Actually, I think top honors for fastest bow (excluding HCA's shooting sub 5gpp arrows)belongs to this beast:

just like i said
that bow is simply amazing....
and it shoots good too

IMHO the x-force is the fastest bow on the market, the 82nd is fast but the cam lean on it makes it one of the harder bows to paper tune, the x-force is a little easier and with the arrows i'm firing out of one makes it quick 250 cx maxima hunters at 27 1/4 up around 335 fps

HCA iron mace shooting speed pro's clock at 360(not my bow but my buddies)

The X-force is a fast bow, for sure
But honestly, the APA is unreal. the brace hight is hardly noticable. Pretty forgiving for an all out speed bow.
I shot a 350 grain arrow at 349 when I was debating on becoming a rep for them
another friend was shooting 71 lbs, 30" three shots 358, 356 and 359.
thats with a 350 grain arrow...... Not speed pros nothing retardedly light...
they are crazy.

That said, i really really liked the Iron mace. so i am sure the speedforce is great.

when I talked to nibal at apa last was when he was first getting the new bows in. He said the first one he chrono'd surprised him. they had switched strings to scorpion this year and had gained nearly 5 fps from last year. the only difference on teh bow itself was the fang added to the riser. He couldnt believe it and shot a few more shots all iin the high 350s.
Amazing what ust a string will do.

I've shot a lot of Speed Bows and all things considered I think the 82nd is the winner.

I know it's the Fastest, Quietest, most Forgiving speed bow I've ever shot.

Bring on the season!!

Dan

I'll be getting a new bow next year, and the mamba intrigued me. The problem is there isn't a dealer anywhere in Indiana to check em out first hand. Unless my local shop miraculously starts to carry them in the next 6 months I'll probably just get another Hoyt...