RM revolution vs Shockwaves
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From: Hamilton Square NJ USA
Has anybody had experience with both of these heads?
I' ve had good experience with the shockwaves, but the revolutions seem to offer an advantage of rearward blade opening with little drawback.
I' v had good luck with shockwaves, every deer I' ve loosed an arrow at over the past three years has fell within sight, but my setup is borderline for KE with mechanicals, according to the " experts" , and I must admit my 27" 400 ICS hunters at 57lbs have failed to pass thru on some of the larger deer I' ve shot, if hitting a rib solidly. Also, all three I shot this year were a quartering away shot, and all three arrows lodged in the off shoulder, without breaking through.
I' m just thinking about the day when I don' t get perfect shot plaacement, and an exit hole will come in handy, and figured I' d ask if anyone has tested them side by side, or used both, and has any opinions.
It seems to me the revolution may give an extra few inches of penetration, due to the blade system, and still allow me the same number and size of blades.
I' m only hunting deer, so I doubt " toughness" is an issue with either head, I' m more interested in quality, sharpness, and reliability, and most importantly, penetration.
I' ve had good experience with the shockwaves, but the revolutions seem to offer an advantage of rearward blade opening with little drawback.
I' v had good luck with shockwaves, every deer I' ve loosed an arrow at over the past three years has fell within sight, but my setup is borderline for KE with mechanicals, according to the " experts" , and I must admit my 27" 400 ICS hunters at 57lbs have failed to pass thru on some of the larger deer I' ve shot, if hitting a rib solidly. Also, all three I shot this year were a quartering away shot, and all three arrows lodged in the off shoulder, without breaking through.
I' m just thinking about the day when I don' t get perfect shot plaacement, and an exit hole will come in handy, and figured I' d ask if anyone has tested them side by side, or used both, and has any opinions.
It seems to me the revolution may give an extra few inches of penetration, due to the blade system, and still allow me the same number and size of blades.
I' m only hunting deer, so I doubt " toughness" is an issue with either head, I' m more interested in quality, sharpness, and reliability, and most importantly, penetration.
#2
I used the Revolutions and took 2 deer with them. They were adequate, but I wasn' t overly impressed by them. I don' t know that you would get that much of an advantage switching to them from the Shockwaves. One of the deer I shot was a small deer that I shot quartering away. The broadhead cracked through the edge of the shoulder blade, but the arrow stayed in the deer. I recovered the deer 400 yards later. I caught the front lobe of the far lung and must not have deflated it. Hope this helps.
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Hey 6pt, mechanicals may not be the best for your set up at 57lbs.Id try fixed blades like muzzy,thunderheads,and others. that way with a marginal shot you will have a better chance of achieving full penetration. Not to mention that Ive found that the fixed blade heads Ive mentioned tend to have way sharper blades then mechanical heads.
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From: Vinton VA
I have tested both heads. I like the shockwaves better as they are a bit more durable. penetration in flesh is going to be about the same with either head and both are accurate and sharp. Considering your KE levels a fixed blade head may be better, but if you really want to shoot a mechanical try the Rocky snyper or rocket steelhead. Both of these heads will give you better penetration and still give the accuracy you get from a mechancial. The snypers have the rearward opening blades like the revolutions if that is important to you as well.
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From: Hamilton Square NJ USA
Thanks for the replys fellas. The advantage I spoke of with the revolutions was the rearward opening blades like the snyper, I thought that may give noticeably more penetration.
Huntingbry has real world experience, and I' m sure 5shot has extensive test data to draw from, so I believe I received a good answer.
BTW, shockwaves are used for sika deer, and the big bucks I speak of rarely weigh more than 80-90lbs or so, Muzzy 100gr 3 blade are used on whitetails. If only they made a Muzzy with a larger cutting diameter, I' d be all set for both types of hutning.
I really don' t see any advantage of using the steelhead or snyper, most stronger fixed blades have a cuttting diameter to match those. I don' t see where you gain anything by using a 1 1/8" mechanical, or a 2bl mechanical, but that' s just me.
Huntingbry has real world experience, and I' m sure 5shot has extensive test data to draw from, so I believe I received a good answer.
BTW, shockwaves are used for sika deer, and the big bucks I speak of rarely weigh more than 80-90lbs or so, Muzzy 100gr 3 blade are used on whitetails. If only they made a Muzzy with a larger cutting diameter, I' d be all set for both types of hutning.
I really don' t see any advantage of using the steelhead or snyper, most stronger fixed blades have a cuttting diameter to match those. I don' t see where you gain anything by using a 1 1/8" mechanical, or a 2bl mechanical, but that' s just me.
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From: Flowery Branch Ga. 30542
I tried the revoluations and the problem I had was that the rubber o ring would slip when carrying the arrows in the quiver. I didn' t have the enclosed tool with me and was not able to put the rubber washer back in place while I was in the tree. The shockwaves worked as advertised.




