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Rage: are they worth the hype?
I have always stood by fixed blades for a couple of reasons. You know they'll open and the penetration. I shoot montecs now, but I have experimented shooting mechanicals before the montec to try and get better arrow flight. I lost a deer using the mechanical I was using, I look back now and know it was a poor head. I can't remember the exact name but it was a three blade from Rocky Mountain. They say these fixed blades today fly like a field point but I don't think so. I still have some trouble sometimes getting them tuned in. Anyway, I see and hear about the Rage two blades everywhere I go. Are they worth it? Would you switch from fixed blades for them?
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there are a lot of forums saying that they work really well for killing but the blades do not work right sometimes. if you get them you have to make sure that the blades are secured properly cause they can fall out of place easily. if you do that then they will shoot very good. i have some rage 3 blades. everytime ive shot them ive made sure the blades have been secure and theyve worked for me.
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ABSOLUTELY!!
They fly like my FP, open up a huge hole and penetrate likea fixed head. I prefer the 2 blade. |
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get Piston Points....ask the White Knuckle Guys....they are the REAL Open from the Rear broadheads!!
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ORIGINAL: Chasebaker get Piston Points....ask the White Knuckle Guys....they are the REAL Open from the Rear broadheads!! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA  Whew, now that I'm done laughing haveyou seen the devastion these Rage heads have been doing. |
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Have you gone through all the tuning things with your bow? You should be able to get the Montecs to fly just like field points. Having said that, I am also interested in the Rage two blade. They fly just like field points as well, and look like that 2" entry hole could really put an animal on the ground in a hurry. I toted some ofthem around this season and actually fired one at a large antelope buck, who jumped the string and caused the Rage head to rip a big entry hole in a cactus. Maybe next year . . . .
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rocket mechs esp steelhead best head out there period. as for the devistation of a 2 blade rage they actually only cut a 2" slice if you take a 1.5" head with three blades its cutting just as much tissue or more. ill go measure one. and they do not penatrate like or better then fixed heads, they have a lot of blade to push through the deer and i know wiht most bows they work fine but the shows that use them have a lot of arrows sticking out of deer kill shots for sure but not as many pass throughs. if you have a big head its just not going to go through as easy. over the top heads work great my family and i have shot them for years and taken more then 100 deer with them.
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They fly great, i have the 3 blades and shot 2 deer with them this year and they had huge entry holes and didn't make it far. Not as much blood as i would have liked to seen, and the blades will come out in your quiver easily, also both deer i shot i had the blades get bent on them without hitting any bone so the durability of the blades is very questionable. All in all if you hit the pump station, he ain't going to make it far but if you hit the shoulder bone im thinking it's not going to be you favorite head after you go looking. I still have mixed feelings about them but ive always been a fixed head person...
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ORIGINAL: Bradkoz rocket mechs esp steelhead best head out there period. as for the devistation of a 2 blade rage they actually only cut a 2" slice if you take a 1.5" head with three blades its cutting just as much tissue or more. ill go measure one. and they do not penatrate like or better then fixed heads, they have a lot of blade to push through the deer and i know wiht most bows they work fine but the shows that use them have a lot of arrows sticking out of deer kill shots for sure but not as many pass throughs. if you have a big head its just not going to go through as easy. over the top heads work great my family and i have shot them for years and taken more then 100 deer with them. This has been beaten do death about the passthroughs. First of all the Drury's are shooting very low poundage bows (in the 50's). And Tammi Gregory from the Wild Outdoors, who shoots only 44lbs, has had multiple passthroughs. There has been multiple threads in regards to the devastation these heads have been doing to deer on this forum and on archery talk and mathews forum. I understand you like Rocket heads and thats fine but why must you continue to put down the Rage head every time there is a thread about them. Talk about the Rockets on a Rocket thread. As you have seen I have never said anything bad about the Rockets, (even though I certainly could). If you like them, great, continue to use them and let the Rage continue todo its job being the most devastating head out there. If I remember correctly you are the guy who put down Jay Gregory for shooting a 190" in Iowa this year with a Rage. If who was still using Rocket (whichhe was using up to 2 years ago) would you still have a problem with his deer? O, and by the way, on an earlier post you made a while ago you said you and your have taken over 50 deer with them and now it's a over a 100. Must have been one heck of a year so far. |
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annika, why don't you just hang up your hat? You've lost all credibility here, we all know you're a Field Logic employee http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2215477&mpage=3&key=&#231044 0
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Hey Ratus know your facts, I am NOT, I repeat NOT a Field Logic employee. I don't think you see me putting down Rockets like some people seem to do on the Rages even though they have never shot them and even know how they work.
If you like shooting something else, fine, say so and leave it at that,and leave the bashing of products alone if you have no idea what you are talking about. I love the Rage 2 blade and I believe it is the best head out there but I don't go around putting down other heads. Ihave seen what these headsdo personally and all the posts of the tremendous success people are having with them so "To each their own". |
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I wanted to mention
Even if I was employee haveI stated any untruths about the head or bashedany ofthe other broadheads and tell people they arejunk and not to shoot anything but the Rage. NO! In 26 years of bowhunting these are the BEST heads I have ever shot, period. I want people to know about them and what they can do. Idon't believe I have ever gone into a ST, Muzzy, NAP, Rocket, G5 or any other BH thread and put down that particular head and told people to shoot Rage. End of story. |
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Just to throw another head in I have used the 100gr Shockwave since they came out. I have taken several deer with them and I mean several I have never lost a deer nor had to track one over about 80 yds most are down within 30 yds they are also less expensive then the rage. I usually find mine at Walmart or on ebay where you can get a pretty good deal. I have heard good things about the Rage but they are costly
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You've never bashed any competitive products?!? HA! That's what you're known for most on this forum, it seems that's all your post are is bashing unless its defending Field Logic
Here's your last one about Morrell's Yellowjacket target How does it hold up so well when part of the target is a cardboard box inside of it. It is scrap foam that they get and wrap with a flimsy plastic wrap. First shot out of a 260fps and my BH was sticking out the back. It lasted me one day [blockquote]quote: ORIGINAL: annika3 I blew through my Yellow jacket on the first shot right to the fletching and I'm only shooting about 260fps [/blockquote] If you hit it in the middle you didn't. I shoot over 400 grains hunting arrows, with speeds in excess of 300 FPS, and the only time i've ever done that was on an older one that had the center shot out of it.. not calling you a lair, just hard to believe.:D |
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about the amount of deer we shot i started really thinking about it and between the 7 family memebers shooting these heads (my dad uses spitfires,they open over the top too) we each shoot at least 3 deer a year and most of thee time at least three of us shoot 5-7 deer a year depending on how much hunting we get to do in NJ. so 7x3=21deer a year at least x 10years (i know at least ten years weve been using them maybe more) thats 210deer but i didnt want to sound ridiculus and i cant be sure that number so over 100 is a def number. also i think i have a right to passon what ive seen with these heads ive read lots of post on them cause i was interested too when i heard there were "so much better" then anything else. but the post ive read and there has been alot id say 50% love them 50%hate them and at least 75% have had some problem with the heads. the other reason i like to letpeople know what ive found is that they cost so much and all they hear about them is the advertisement claims and all the guys on tvusing them.no doubt theyll kill deer but thats not saying much (a field tip in the lungs would kill a deer) the holes are not impressive when you consider other brands have had the same and bigger holes for years.
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ORIGINAL: Bradkoz rocket mechs esp steelhead best head out there period. I just tried the Rage three bladed headsthis afternoon, and let me say this, they fly better than the Hammerheads!! I just got back from Gander Mountain and picked up two packs of the Rage three bladed heads. My cousin has been using these for the last year now and was trying his best to get me to switch, well I tried his Rage practice 3-bladed headand proceeded to nail the bullseye both at 20 and 30 yards!! They DO fly awesome, and he had two complete pass throughs last season while using them.I'm a Rage convert now!! Seeing and trying them first hand, was a real eye opener!!! The Rocket Hammerheads are still a dandy head, but the Rage 3-blade is much more accurate, at least out of my bow!!;) |
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Funny how a new spin on advertising ca revive a product. 10 years ago as the "Snyper" they were a hit for the first season or two and then they faded away.... now here they are.... AGAIN,.... as the "Rage". I'm willing to predict that in a couple more seasons they'll move on and fade away.... again. ;):)
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Nothin wrong with the snyper though...prefer the Gatorxp myself..but folks always want the latest and greatest.
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I used the Rage 2 Blades this season for the first time and all I can say is....AWESOME!!!
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ORIGINAL: IL-Cornfed Funny how a new spin on advertising ca revive a product. 10 years ago as the "Snyper" they were a hit for the first season or two and then they faded away.... now here they are.... AGAIN,.... as the "Rage". I'm willing to predict that in a couple more seasons they'll move on and fade away.... again. ;):) The Ragedesign doesn't use any rubber bands at all, eliminating that problem altogether. You can shake them around and the blades won't come loose. Very well made and designed over the Snypers!! They are completely different styled heads. The three bladed Rage head is the one I'm referring to, and it does fly like a dart!! Awesome head for the money!!;) |
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I have to say, I was dead set on using the 3 blade rages this season, but the thought of moving parts and hearing some mixed reviews, I wasconcernedand less confident in the broadheads. The broadheads flew great, but on occasion would open if accidently bumped. I finally dedicated myself to fine tune my bow and arrows. With that, I am now shooting 100 gr. 3 blade muzzy's that hit exactly where my fp's hit. I nailed a turkey the other day, dropping it in it's tracks. The muzzy did a great job! I think I'm going to stick with the muzzy's.[:@]
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No, they're not worth the hype!!!!!
Too many marketing "FADS" these days get guys all shook up on gimmicks. The Rage has a success rate equal to its failure rate! Since the Rage came out, I've heard nothing but stories about poor hits and lost deer! No deer, specially a nice shooter buck deserves to have a half a--ed broadhead quit on the way in, leaving the deer wounded or worse; too weak to fend off the coyotes! All the stories that have been told to me or those I've read explain a lost deer to "The Rage". The guys shooting 70 lb bows seem to have the least amount of horror stories. However, the guys shooting the 50-60 lb bows are losing deer like crazy. Maybe there should be a mention by the makers of the Rage to use a heavier bow if you choose this head. Usually 50 lb bows will pass through a deer with a fixed blade head. Here's another point. How come you hear about these "massive entrance wounds" from the company but not about great exit wounds? How come the hunting shows and DVD's show the arrow only going in half way or less even on close shots with the Rage? Do yourself and the deer a favor... shoot a fixed blade or replaceable blade head! "Never shall a mechanical head enter my quiver" |
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I had to try the 3 blade rages this year as well. I just like to try new things. well in my 2 deer I harvested, both made it less than forty yards with the best entry hole I have ever seen. However, both deer had poor exit holes almost like field point holes IMO.
I shoot a 400gr arow with 60lb draw wt. first animal quartering away on the ground hunt and shot him with a pass thru but not complete. arrow did fall out of animal about 10 yards from where I shot him. He ran 40 yards and piled up. blood trail was okay not the best I have seen. animal was hit slightly above the knuckle joint on the body. broadhead is no longer any good. one blade is bent, with other 2 blades intact and okay. where the blades fold out and over the rubber band, the ferrule is groved deeply from the blades. IMO, the ferrule is a softer metal than the blades which is why the ferrule was groved after the blades deployed and went thru the ribs. second deer was shot 26 yards from a treestand quartering away also right at where the knuckle is on the deer.this animal ran 10 steps. the rage left a large entry hole but again small exit hole. no bone was hit other than ribs. all blades were intact this time with no damage. however, again the ferrule was damaged by the blades after they deployed leaving deep grooves in the ferrule. I am happy that both deer shot were quickly harvested but have mixed feelings about the heads regarding there durability of the ferrule. I can live with a broken blade b/c you can get replacements but with the ferrule damaged by the groves this can be costly b/c I consider the whole head totaled. So, some folks may say I can live with the fact that they harvested an animal and lost a broadhead but I would like to be able to reuse heads and cut costs some. This leaves me with mixed feelings. I do have pictures of the second animals entry and exit holes along with both broadheads if interested. Has anyone that has harvested animals with the rages looked at there heads afterwards and noticed the groves left in the head by the blades. any experience reusing heads? |
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well here are the picts from my last animal as I thought to take picts of it.
entry side  entry side without skin  exit side  exit side without skin  |
RE: Rage: are they worth the hype?
I also was thinking of switching to the 2in 2blade I watched the drury bros.no 10 dvd and the things totally messed up the deer they shot and I think they said the average yds. for long distance recovery was between 55 and 60 yds.but alot of the deer they shot never even made it that far,I had a bad experiance last year shootin rocket steelheads expandables,Iwill never shoot them again on any bow I'm shootin magnus buzzcuts right now but a couple of the deer I seen shot on drury outdoor dvd it looked like they were shot with a gun........Ted
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ORIGINAL: arkansasbowhunter I had to try the 3 blade rages this year as well. I just like to try new things. well in my 2 deer I harvested, both made it less than forty yards with the best entry hole I have ever seen. However, both deer had poor exit holes almost like field point holes IMO. I shoot a 400gr arow with 60lb draw wt. first animal quartering away on the ground hunt and shot him with a pass thru but not complete. arrow did fall out of animal about 10 yards from where I shot him. He ran 40 yards and piled up. blood trail was okay not the best I have seen. animal was hit slightly above the knuckle joint on the body. broadhead is no longer any good. one blade is bent, with other 2 blades intact and okay. where the blades fold out and over the rubber band, the ferrule is groved deeply from the blades. IMO, the ferrule is a softer metal than the blades which is why the ferrule was groved after the blades deployed and went thru the ribs. second deer was shot 26 yards from a treestand quartering away also right at where the knuckle is on the deer.this animal ran 10 steps. the rage left a large entry hole but again small exit hole. no bone was hit other than ribs. all blades were intact this time with no damage. however, again the ferrule was damaged by the blades after they deployed leaving deep grooves in the ferrule. I am happy that both deer shot were quickly harvested but have mixed feelings about the heads regarding there durability of the ferrule. I can live with a broken blade b/c you can get replacements but with the ferrule damaged by the groves this can be costly b/c I consider the whole head totaled. So, some folks may say I can live with the fact that they harvested an animal and lost a broadhead but I would like to be able to reuse heads and cut costs some. This leaves me with mixed feelings. I do have pictures of the second animals entry and exit holes along with both broadheads if interested. Has anyone that has harvested animals with the rages looked at there heads afterwards and noticed the groves left in the head by the blades. any experience reusing heads? |
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I shot one at an antelope that jumped the string back in September. It hit a cactus and some soft sand. The ferrule also had the marks on it - where the blade tried to bend back too far. I have replaced the blades and O-ring, but this one still doesn't work quite right. Wants to open up too easily.
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I bought 2 packs of the 3 blade 100 grain heads before season started. They fly well, but seem to be quite a bit of hassel. I had difficulty getting them into my quiver without them deploying. I probably checked the blades every 30 minutes while in the stand to make sure they were still closed. All that being said, I did harvest a nice buck and they did a good job on him. For my money, they are too much trouble. I still have 5 brand new heads setting on my workbench at home that have never beens shot. I have switched back to spitfires for now, but I have some Grim Reapers that I am anxious to try too. If I could just get some deer to cooperate with my testing process I could give a better comparison.
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I did come up witha pretty good method for getting them in the quiver. I got some steel tubing with a 5/8" inside diameter and a wall thickness of about .025". Used a lathe to chamfer a knife edge on one end. Then I worked it into the center of each place on the foam where the arrow goes; opening the hole up to 5/8" for about 3/4 of the way into the foam. The Rage heads go in with little or no wiggle, but there is no issue with them wanting to open up in the quiver.
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exit hole from a rage 2 blade.
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do you have entry site? better exit hole than on my 2 animals with the 3 blades. I have had no problems with them in the quiver cause I don't have the foam insert. I use the quickee with 2 attachment places for the arrow.
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[8D]No! Get some slick tricks. These are the real deal!!
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This is all basically a bunch of crap. Hit any deer right with any sharp broadhead and your done.
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My personal problem with 2 blade rage broadheads starts with poor design. After so many trips in and out of the quiver the o-ring gets worn out, causing the blades to move from the locked position on release. I shoot a switchback XT along with a friend. Between the two of us we lost 4 does (shot close to perfect) this year due to rage 2 blade working improperly. When this happens you get next to no blood trail.
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nice pics...are pics with the small exit hole ..are u sure that ur blades are opening
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pics with small hole as exit. large hole is entry.
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Small bucks walk- You say that you hit these deer near perfect but you never found them because the rage failed. So... if you never found these deer you dont know where you hit them and if rage failed or not. Im pretty sure your just blaming rage for your poor shots. [:@]I shoot rage and love them. I think they are the perfect broadhead. I shot a doe through both shoulders this year. I got a clean pass through with 59 lbs at 30 yards. I sharpened the Rage 2 blade and put it back in my quiver. Still in perfect shape. Alright nuff said. Every body is gonna have a differant opinion I just dont like it when people blame their equipment for their poor shots.
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Absolutely not! Fixed blade to the end!! MUZZY! SLICK TRICK! or yes Ausie soon to try outback broadheads!:D
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After last night, I have seen two mulie bucks killed with Rage two blade heads in the past five days. I shot one Saturday night - severe quartering away shot that entered just behind the last rib - came out in front of the shoulder. Deer ran about fifty yards and started wobbling. Last night, I was right there when a big 5X5 was shot at 32 yards - arrow hit the muscle in front leg, went through the front portion of both lungs - and stuck in the opposite shoulder. Even broke some ribs. Same deal - deer ran about 50 yards with 8" of arrow still sticking out of him - and started the wobble. These are working pretty well so far. Big holes with lots of hemmoraging.
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