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Taylorman 09-26-2007 11:36 AM

Whiskery biscuit
 
Im looking for opinions on the whisker biscuit rests?

Super G Force 09-26-2007 11:41 AM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
Use the search feature in the tool bar and you will probably find a lot of good info. I use the WB and it works well for me.

DeerStalker80 09-26-2007 02:00 PM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
if you have great form wiskey biscuits are great but they do tear up vanes in my opinion. I would suggest a drop away there not much more than a WB but they allow more forgiveness than The wb. I have a Dropzone buy trophy ridge and love it and until someone makes one better I will not put anything else on my bow

Super G Force 09-26-2007 02:05 PM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
I have been using the WB for over a year now and have yet to tear up any vanes. I have heard about the old/first style that were all black bristles causing problems. I shoot blazers but I have shot 4" vanes also with no problems.



loogout1 09-26-2007 02:12 PM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
Never had problems with vanes but your groups will improve with a drop away. Shot a wb for years but tried a drop away and would never go back. Ask yourself when was the last time you shot upside down?

Super G Force 09-26-2007 02:18 PM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 

ORIGINAL: loogout1

Ask yourself when was the last time you shot upside down?
I have not shot upside down lately but when you are stalking game like turkeys, deer, elk etc....it is helpful to not have your arrow falling off the rest.

loogout1 09-26-2007 06:42 PM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
I stand corrected. Then again I do 99% of my hunting out of a tree stand. It would definitely help if stalking.

ranger56528 09-26-2007 06:48 PM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
Ive posted more then enough on the WB.....Have used it from basiclly fromthe day itwas on the shelfon 3 diferant bows and untill something else comes out thats better Iam not changing.........

DEDBUCK 09-26-2007 07:56 PM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
Hate em they warped the fletchings on my arrows and it has to affect arrow flight and speed.

armedic1 09-27-2007 12:20 AM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
The WB is what I had on my bow last year and worked pretty good with the exception of warping vanes. When I changed bows I went to a NAP quick tune drop away and like ita little better but I do almost all of my bowhunting from a tree. If you spot n stalk the WB may be a better option.

GAsniper 09-27-2007 10:33 AM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
I had a WB but it was tearing up my fletchings(and it was the new version) so I got a Trophy Ridge Drop Zone and it works great. It comes with the arrow holder in this picture and it will hold the arrow with the bow held parallel to the ground.

I bought this thing to use instead of that ^^^ and it holds the arrow whichever way you turn the bow
www.keystonecountrystore.com

Bradkoz 09-28-2007 01:54 AM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
it tears up junky vanes, blazers and good stiff vanes have no problems but you could just shoot the best and shoot feathers. drop aways when working properly will get you 1-3 fps over a WB theyll also get you to worry about if its gonna work after you get out in the woods esp if you walk through any brush or if its gone out of tune from sting stretch etc. dropaways are awsome, for target shooting but in the hunting woods they just are not worth the risk to me. ive seen at least three video hunts on tv were they have failed and have heard of plenty. lots of people use them without incident though so if your willing to chance it they shoot awsome.

i shoot 50yrds no problem with the WB and using feathers dotn loose any speed, but gain accuracy.i hunt from a tree but i think not haveing to worry about the arrow falling off is a huge deal and thats why the drop aways are coming out with something to hold the arrow there.
the WB doesnt freeze as some will tell your (i did a test in the gear review area) and its a set it and forget it ultra reliable rest.

Super G Force 09-28-2007 07:59 AM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 

ORIGINAL: Bradkoz

it tears up junky vanes, blazers and good stiff vanes have no problems but you could just shoot the best and shoot feathers. drop aways when working properly will get you 1-3 fps over a WB theyll also get you to worry about if its gonna work after you get out in the woods esp if you walk through any brush or if its gone out of tune from sting stretch etc. dropaways are awsome, for target shooting but in the hunting woods they just are not worth the risk to me. ive seen at least three video hunts on tv were they have failed and have heard of plenty. lots of people use them without incident though so if your willing to chance it they shoot awsome.

i shoot 50yrds no problem with the WB and using feathers dotn loose any speed, but gain accuracy.i hunt from a tree but i think not haveing to worry about the arrow falling off is a huge deal and thats why the drop aways are coming out with something to hold the arrow there.
the WB doesnt freeze as some will tell your (i did a test in the gear review area) and its a set it and forget it ultra reliable rest.

Well said Bradkoz!!!!

GAsniper 09-28-2007 02:08 PM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
When I had my wb, I was shooting with quik-spins, which are a lot thicker and stifferthan normal vanes so I figured they wouldn't get torn up, but they did, so I ended up getting the TR drop zone. I haven't had any problems with my drop zone rest at all and all I do with it is hunt. My bow sat in the case since probably december and I took it out a month agoto gohunting and killed 5 hogs with it, didn't have to tune or adjust anything. I haven't had to adjust the rest in the 2 years that I've had it.

DannyD 09-28-2007 02:50 PM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
i didn't think quick spins were to be used with the WB since they have that plastic piece on the end of them

MeanV2 09-28-2007 03:00 PM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
The new Bowtech Hostage rest has all the advantages of the WB but without all the vane contact;)

Dan

GAsniper 09-28-2007 06:19 PM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
DannyD, that's what I thought, but the guy at Bass Pro said it would be fine. And even if you're not supposed to use quick spins with a wb, that wouldn't affect the vanes getting curled or torn off the arrow, would it?

Whitehorn 10-12-2007 09:16 AM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 

ORIGINAL: MeanV2

The new Bowtech Hostage rest has all the advantages of the WB but without all the vane contact;)

Dan
I use a WB and love it.. It is the ultimate hunting rest.. But now that I have seen the Hostage (thanks MeanV2)I will take a serious look at that rest when i replace my bow.. Not any time soon but I lovetheHostage concept..

Speaking of Quick Spin vanes, do they improve flight characteristics and accuracy with fixed broadheads?

MeanV2 10-12-2007 09:28 AM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 

ORIGINAL: Whitehorn


ORIGINAL: MeanV2

The new Bowtech Hostage rest has all the advantages of the WB but without all the vane contact;)

Dan
I use a WB and love it.. It is the ultimate hunting rest.. But now that I have seen the Hostage (thanks MeanV2)I will take a serious look at that rest when i replace my bow.. Not any time soon but I lovetheHostage concept..

Speaking of Quick Spin vanes, do they improve flight characteristics and accuracy with fixed broadheads?
I like the QS's and the new Speed Hunter in ST formula are solid performers:D

Dan

MN/Kyle 10-12-2007 10:54 AM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 

ORIGINAL: DEDBUCK

Hate em they warped the fletchings on my arrows and it has to affect arrow flight and speed.
Easy to fix if vanes.


And a deer doesn't know the speed of your arrow (at least I don't think so), you do not loose that many FPS.



ihunt1975 10-12-2007 01:03 PM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
They're okay. They can't compete with my Trophy Taker Drop Away arrow rest. I sound like a commerical.

7mary4 10-12-2007 04:12 PM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
they affect arrow flight. go to a good drop away, the arrow is confined to the rest, (NAP) and they dont wear out like the WB.

dws 10-12-2007 07:02 PM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
If you think a whisker bisket effects arrow flight, I think you need to practice your follow thru a little more and tune your bow better. I honestly don't see how anybody could say there is any accuracy problems or fletching problems with one as long as it is set up properly.

Super G Force 10-12-2007 08:10 PM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 

ORIGINAL: dws

If you think a whisker bisket effects arrow flight, I think you need to practice your follow thru a little more and tune your bow better. I honestly don't see how anybody could say there is any accuracy problems or fletching problems with one as long as it is set up properly.
Ditto!!!! I totally agree with you dws.

MN/Kyle 10-13-2007 01:09 AM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 

ORIGINAL: 7mary4

they affect arrow flight. go to a good drop away, the arrow is confined to the rest, (NAP) and they dont wear out like the WB.
Okay, how?

heavy hitter 10-13-2007 07:04 AM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
i was sceptical, but just got a new tribute and put one on it. i hasn't done anything to my blazers and in my opinoin is the best type of rest you could have for hunting. there just isn't anything that could go wrong. what happens to your accuracy if the string on your fall away streches or maybe contracts just a little bit from cold weather? what if it broke? what happens if you need to let down? how about you bump a branch at full draw? if you're using a biscut you don't need to worry about it. i'll give up the 3fps for the peace of mind. i love it.

ranger56528 10-14-2007 12:47 AM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
Well put dws....The bigest problempeople have with the WB is they dont set em up right..........

N2A 10-17-2007 05:40 AM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 

ORIGINAL: Super G Force

I have been using the WB for over a year now and have yet to tear up any vanes. I have heard about the old/first style that were all black bristles causing problems. I shoot blazers but I have shot 4" vanes also with no problems.


I'm looking at buying some new arrows and having the 2" Blazers put on them. The question I have is this. With 4 inch vanes, I was told I should have the fletches attached straight instead of with a heliptical angle when shooting with a whisker biscuit. I'm asking for a second opinion. Are blazers attached straight or can they be part heliptical? If heliptical, is there a negative impact to the arrow, whether its accuracy or fletching wear?

MeanV2 10-17-2007 06:08 AM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 

ORIGINAL: N2A


ORIGINAL: Super G Force

I have been using the WB for over a year now and have yet to tear up any vanes. I have heard about the old/first style that were all black bristles causing problems. I shoot blazers but I have shot 4" vanes also with no problems.


I'm looking at buying some new arrows and having the 2" Blazers put on them. The question I have is this. With 4 inch vanes, I was told I should have the fletches attached straight instead of with a heliptical angle when shooting with a whisker biscuit. I'm asking for a second opinion. Are blazers attached straight or can they be part heliptical? If heliptical, is there a negative impact to the arrow, whether its accuracy or fletching wear?
If you are Hunting and shooting broadheads, fletch your arrows Helical either way.;)

Dan

Super G Force 10-17-2007 06:33 AM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 

ORIGINAL: N2A


ORIGINAL: Super G Force

I have been using the WB for over a year now and have yet to tear up any vanes. I have heard about the old/first style that were all black bristles causing problems. I shoot blazers but I have shot 4" vanes also with no problems.


I'm looking at buying some new arrows and having the 2" Blazers put on them. The question I have is this. With 4 inch vanes, I was told I should have the fletches attached straight instead of with a heliptical angle when shooting with a whisker biscuit. I'm asking for a second opinion. Are blazers attached straight or can they be part heliptical? If heliptical, is there a negative impact to the arrow, whether its accuracy or fletching wear?
Dan is right. You should go with helical fletching. Helps stabilize the arrow faster.My 4" vanes were helical with the WB, but I have only shot 2" blazers (helical) for the last few years. Good luck.

BIGBUCK17 10-17-2007 09:25 AM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
i know people that have used them and they said they work great but they said it rips your fletchinsoff easy


Super G Force 10-17-2007 09:44 AM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 

ORIGINAL: BIGBUCK17

i know people that have used them and they said they work great but they said it rips your fletchinsoff easy

I have never had a fletch rip off yet due tomyWB. I shoot 2" helical set blazers. no problems and I shoot a minimum of 100 shots a week. If the WB is not set up correctly like sqaure to the shaft I guess it could happen, but that would not be the WB's fault that would be operator error...

slayer_54 10-17-2007 11:13 PM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
dont get one if you like me and shoo alot of target! it tears the heck outta your vanes. get a drop away


Super G Force 10-18-2007 06:51 AM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 

ORIGINAL: slayer_54

dont get one if you like me and shoo alot of target! it tears the heck outta your vanes. get a drop away

I Shoot a lot of target, as in a minimum of 100 shots a week as I stated in a previous post. I have not had any problems with vanes coming off. I am wondering if some of the people with the vanes coming off aren't getting poorly built arrows with bad fletching jobs??

ranger56528 10-18-2007 10:43 AM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
12-4-8(ruffly) thats the clock and how yourvanes should be going thru,the tearing of the vanes comes when they come in contact with the bottom of the WB support,its also the reason you get a wavie vane,because of contact.I like some of you have been useing the WB from just about day one and have learned how to set it up the correct way.The 4-7 clock postition are stiffer and will also cause some vane warp if hitting to much..Iam still old school and put the little extra drop of glue on the front of the vanes but dont baleave its nessasary.As far as fps loss I think they are still figuring around 1 or two fps not enough to make any differance.
I also beleave alot of people are not getting the right size biscuit for arrowthus causing problems.I also bet that if you look at the vane that shows warp or pulling offthey will show the signs of contact(off color or signs of rubbing)...

Super G Force 10-18-2007 11:58 AM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 

ORIGINAL: ranger56528

12-4-8(ruffly) thats the clock and how yourvanes should be going thru,the tearing of the vanes comes when they come in contact with the bottom of the WB support,its also the reason you get a wavie vane,because of contact.I like some of you have been useing the WB from just about day one and have learned how to set it up the correct way.The 4-7 clock postition are stiffer and will also cause some vane warp if hitting to much..Iam still old school and put the little extra drop of glue on the front of the vanes but dont baleave its nessasary.As far as fps loss I think they are still figuring around 1 or two fps not enough to make any differance.
I also beleave alot of people are not getting the right size biscuit for arrowthus causing problems.I also bet that if you look at the vane that shows warp or pulling offthey will show the signs of contact(off color or signs of rubbing)...
Well said.

ranger56528 10-18-2007 04:35 PM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
Thank you SGF.
Iam getting tired of the bashing,all rests have thier good and bad and Ive read alot on dif forums and what it comes down too is if you know what your doing the WB is a good all around rest weather it's 110 deg out or -30.Also the WB is perty indestructable(spl)as in no moving parts so the mud,sand,snow,ice,rain have no real effect.Also I do not know of anyother rest you can shoot upside down and still have agood arrow flight,yes Ive hung upside down on my childrens swing set and have tried it, just because I was told you could shoot it upside down and your sight changes due to the fact the arrow is resting on the top,not a perty sight tho(me hanging on the swingset)....Sorry have'nt tried the New Hostage yet....But you never know...
If it aint broke dont fix it.....

Super G Force 10-18-2007 04:43 PM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 

ORIGINAL: ranger56528

Thank you SGF.
Iam getting tired of the bashing,all rests have thier good and bad and Ive read alot on dif forums and what it comes down too is if you know what your doing the WB is a good all around rest weather it's 110 deg out or -30.Also the WB is perty indestructable(spl)as in no moving parts so the mud,sand,snow,ice,rain have no real effect.Also I do not know of anyother rest you can shoot upside down and still have agood arrow flight,yes Ive hung upside down on my childrens swing set and have tried it, just because I was told you could shoot it upside down and your sight changes due to the fact the arrow is resting on the top,not a perty sight tho(me hanging on the swingset)....Sorry have'nt tried the New Hostage yet....But you never know...
If it aint broke dont fix it.....
:DThat cracks me up that you tried shooting it upside down. I would have loved to seen that. Maybe a future video??:D

ranger56528 10-18-2007 05:01 PM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
I was a few years younger and my wife thought I had lost it...But I was just trying to prove the company wrong..

Super G Force 10-18-2007 05:26 PM

RE: Whiskery biscuit
 
I am glad you didn't prove them wrong. I love the product and will keep on using it for years to come.




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