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Old 04-22-2005 | 07:40 AM
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Hi,
Has anyone killed any white tailes with this bullet out of their Muzzleloader?The Nosler HP 180 GRAIN?
I was thinking that this light of a bullet might not drop as much say as a 300 grain T/C at 200 yds.
I would like to get my Knight Disc.50 to shoot maybe 4"high at 100 yds,but only be say 4"-6low at 200.
Is there a load out there like this????
But on second thought,the HP might drop more because of it's a flat point type of bullet?What do Ya'll think?
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Old 04-22-2005 | 08:35 AM
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Normally, you will find better trajectories with spire tipped and spire tipped/boat tail projectiles. Hollow and flat points loose velocity more rapidly.

I've not shot this bullet but as light as it is, you should be able to toss it out to 200 yards with a heavier charge and going 3-5" high at 100 yards..

Question really is, 200 yard accuracy really takes alot of practice regardless of what you shoot. But with practice, good optics and load development you should be able to get there.

From my Omega, I'm shooting the Hornady 300gr SST (spire point) very accurate at 100 yards with a hot charge of 120gr BM'3 powder. I'm sighted 3" high at 100 yards. I have not pattern this at 200 yards but I would guess that the drop at 200 yards should not be more than 3-5". Going to be hopefully building a 200 yard range this summer.
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Old 04-22-2005 | 11:12 AM
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Don't know if we are talking about the same bullet or not but a few years ago I used a 185 gr bullet made by nosler (the dealer was selling them loose,they looked just like a xtp bullet and said they were made by nosler)I shot these with a ruger 77/50,took 7 deer, all head shots from 20 to 75 yds,all dropped where they stood.Never shot them past 100 yds so don't know how they would do past that.Haven't used the ruger in several years,have an encore and 2 savages that I have been using last few years.Since then I have been sold on the shock waves and sst's 200 and 250 gr.
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Old 04-22-2005 | 12:21 PM
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There are a number of bullets that can have a point blank range of 200 yards in a .50 Cal. muzzleloader. Problem is that many of the light bullets don't shoot well with the magnum charges. If I was looking to do what you want to do here, I would look at the 250 grain T/C Shockwave (or SST - whichever you gun likes best) - ahead of a charge capable of driving it to 2,000 fps. I use 130 grains of Pyrodex pellets - but some of the loose powders can get there as well. I want to try some BM3, but so far can't find any locally and don't want to pay the HazMat charge to get some from Cabela's.
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Old 04-22-2005 | 07:16 PM
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Roger

115 gr 777 FFF should get you in that 100-200 yard ballpark you desire -- but using a more ballistic coefficient bullet like the 250 Shockwave/SST. The lead nose of the Nosler HP does not perform well with high bullet speeds you're seeking.

The authority-person on Knight Discs/Shockwaves is poster 'PigBuster'.... former Knight employee also. Hopefully, he'll chime-in here on this thread with more technical data - since he's shot thousands of rounds with that Shockwave/SST bullet he loves... using chrono equipment for more precise measurements of energy/speed.
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