Good movie, i have to go with Charley though i loved Mountain Men, what a great movie

If i dont get some wiskey soon im GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You gotta love the classics

Great article in Gun Digest some years back entitled "Liver eatin' Johnston Probably Didn't". His life was pretty well documented, although there ARE some holes in it. Johnston himself gave interviews late in his life, read HIS words about his "liver eatin'" before you believe other sources.

Then skin this'n, pilgrim!

Been awhile since I've seen either of the movies mentioned, but the scene where the old boy was burried except for his head was funny. Recall he said he hadn't seen anyone go by, at least not in front of him.

Underclocked.. that was a great scene Actually when you watch the movie there are a lot of very factual scenes in the movie. I wonder what that buffalo hide coat weighed that his woman made for him? You ever lift a tanned hide? They are really heavy especially with the hair left on them.

Actually there are some great Mountian Man movies out there. I bought an original VHS tape of Heston & Keith's Mountian Man when it first came out. I would hate to think how many times I have watched it. In fact it had gotton to the point that I start watching it and then half way through change my mind because I know almost all the lines by heart.

I liked where Keith in the begining of the movie chases Heston acting like an Indian and they end up in the creek after which Heston pours water out his barrel.

Liked Jerimiah Johnson movie too, but I also liked the Mountain Men. My favorite line was the one Brian Kieth said when asked if he was ever lost "Nope, can't say that I have. I've been confused for a month or so, but never lost."
As for the rifles in the JJ movie, yeah I think the producer/director made an error. They should have probably said a 32 or 36 cal (not 30).
I would assume that the calibers made in those days were 32 (maybe), 36, 45, and 50 in the Hawken. You still had the big bores like the 69s and such.
But most of the mountain men preferred the 50.

Skin this one pilgrim and I'll bring you another.

After reading everyone's recollections, I had to see these two movies again! I saw Jeremiah Johnson on television ages ago, and I recall seeing Mountain Men in the theatre when it first came out (telling my age!). The two movies are on DVD. I'll have them soon!

Kenneth Smith
Monroe, Louisiana

Received both movies yesterday. Watched both too. It was good to refresh my memory.

I also picked up a copy of _Crow Killer: The Saga of Liver-Eating Johnson_, by Raymond W. Thorp and Robert Bunker. I haven't read it yet, of course, but the book cover alleges that Johnson's story was cleaned up a lot by Redford and Co. in the movie.

Kenneth

"You're mighty cocky....for a starving pilgrim."

I am 98% finished with _Crow Killer: The Saga of Liver-Eating Johnson_, and it treats the tendency of Johnson to eat the livers of the Crow warriors sent to kill him as fact and corroborates this feature of his vengeance against the Crows with testimony from "White Eye Anderson," interviewed for this book long ago, and who was an acquaintance of Johnson in his later years, and from testimony and letters of Del Gue, who, it seems, only died in the early 1900s. I'm very interested in finding Johnson's own words, especially since the book makes it clear that Johnson was a dour type, and chose his words carefully and only to those whom he liked.

Go here for a photo of "Jeremiah Johnson's" grave site: http://www.fpcc.net/~sgrimm/jeremiah_johnston.htm

He was moved there from his original grave site in Los Angeles, CA where he died in a VA hospital in the late 1890s (1899, some date it 1900). When he was buried in Cody, Wyoming, Robert Redford served as one of the pallbearers.

Kenneth

Now you guys have gone and done it!!! I have to buy the DVDs and refresh my memory, ya got me all excited.