Hard Trigger on Traditions
#11
Nontypical Buck
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 3,236
RE: Hard Trigger on Traditions
As for the black powder problem, I ran into the same thing where I live. I finally ended up ordering some on line
I'm like a kid on Christmas! I found some 4f Goex at a store 15 minutes from my house. It's ironic because my uncle used to own the store and it was the last place I looked. They charged me $13 for a pound. Then I bought a pound of 777 for, oh what was it?..........$23 a pound!!!
Stuff better be good for that price.
Wish me luck!
#12
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Cottage Grove Oregon
Posts: 918
RE: Hard Trigger on Traditions
Here is the number at the Traditions repair shop in Old Saybrook. I am pretty sure they can hook you up with one of their gunsmiths. They are very helpful when I stop by or call so give them a try if you need help. 860 388 4656
#13
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Gouldsboro, PA
Posts: 548
RE: Hard Trigger on Traditions
livbucks,
Goex, never used it, so let us know how you make out. Also, I usually use 2f in the barrel and 4f in the pan. 4f is a finer powder than 2f and I'm not sure how that will work in the barrel. Also, I picked up my Triple 7 at Gander mountain when they were having a sale on 2f loose powder, $16 per pound. Not a bad price.
Tom
Goex, never used it, so let us know how you make out. Also, I usually use 2f in the barrel and 4f in the pan. 4f is a finer powder than 2f and I'm not sure how that will work in the barrel. Also, I picked up my Triple 7 at Gander mountain when they were having a sale on 2f loose powder, $16 per pound. Not a bad price.
Tom
#15
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Gouldsboro, PA
Posts: 548
RE: Hard Trigger on Traditions
Hey Greg,
I don't know...I use 4f Black Powder for the pan powder, only because when I first got my rifle, I picked up 2f and 4f in black powder. I don't recall if it stated something else on the plastic container. I'll take a look at it tonight when I get home. I guess I just assumed black powder is black powder, probably not the case.
Thanks, I'll let you know. When are you going to do some shooting with that new ML?
Tom
I don't know...I use 4f Black Powder for the pan powder, only because when I first got my rifle, I picked up 2f and 4f in black powder. I don't recall if it stated something else on the plastic container. I'll take a look at it tonight when I get home. I guess I just assumed black powder is black powder, probably not the case.
Thanks, I'll let you know. When are you going to do some shooting with that new ML?
Tom
#16
Nontypical Buck
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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RE: Hard Trigger on Traditions
Well Tom, I wanted to tonight but it is pouring down rain and it is expected to for a couple days. hope to shoot it some evening this week. Goex is the brand of BP. It is real BP. Only 3 ingredients in BP.
#17
RE: Hard Trigger on Traditions
Goex FFFFg will work great in the flash pan as your priming powder. Of all the black powders out there, Goex, Swiss, and others, I use Goex. If your rifle seems like it is having a slow ignition with the Triple Se7en as the main charge, I was told to drop a little (like 5 grains) of the Goex in first to help the Triple Se7en ignite.
I am thinking of buying another rifle today. I guess all the other rifles need company... It is a .50 caliber flinter. It sure looks like a nice rifle....
Good luck shooting yours...
I am thinking of buying another rifle today. I guess all the other rifles need company... It is a .50 caliber flinter. It sure looks like a nice rifle....
Good luck shooting yours...
#18
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Gouldsboro, PA
Posts: 548
RE: Hard Trigger on Traditions
cayugad,
You mentioned throwing in 5 grains of BP with the Triple 7, to help with the ignition. I have been using the pellets in my in-line, 50 grains each, using the 209 primer. No problems there.
Last year, I used the loose Triple 7 in my flint, 100% 80 grains with no problems getting ignition. Now when I had shot Clean Shot, the 2f grain was very coarse, and would not shoot well so I mixed in some Black Powder, since I know BP worked fine, probably about 10 to 15 grains in with the Clean Shot, and it would shoot great. I put the BP so it would go in the barrel first, so it would be near the touch hole. I had also heard you should not mix powders, but my gun shot file that way so I did it anyway.
If I were you, I would try Triple 7 in the barrel without the 5 grains of BP, but using BP 4f in the pan, and let us know your results since mine have been excellent. Shoots fine....
Tom
You mentioned throwing in 5 grains of BP with the Triple 7, to help with the ignition. I have been using the pellets in my in-line, 50 grains each, using the 209 primer. No problems there.
Last year, I used the loose Triple 7 in my flint, 100% 80 grains with no problems getting ignition. Now when I had shot Clean Shot, the 2f grain was very coarse, and would not shoot well so I mixed in some Black Powder, since I know BP worked fine, probably about 10 to 15 grains in with the Clean Shot, and it would shoot great. I put the BP so it would go in the barrel first, so it would be near the touch hole. I had also heard you should not mix powders, but my gun shot file that way so I did it anyway.
If I were you, I would try Triple 7 in the barrel without the 5 grains of BP, but using BP 4f in the pan, and let us know your results since mine have been excellent. Shoots fine....
Tom
#19
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: pennsylvania
Posts: 3,248
RE: Hard Trigger on Traditions
love to know how you make out with the pa pellet. my wife is letting me get a flintlock for my birthday in august, and the pa pellet is on my shortlist (along with the deerhunter, buckskinner and maybe the hawken)
#20
RE: Hard Trigger on Traditions
Tomster... I agree with you. I would try the triple Se7en without the black powder first also. I am saying if there seems to be slow ignition with the flash pan lighting the triple se7en, then I would dump the black powder in first and then the triple se7en on top of it....
My friend who is an avid flinter recommended 5 grains. I see you even suggest as much as 10-15 grains with the clean shot. Living in Wisconsin, where it gets real cold, were shooting Triple Se7en powder one afternoon him and I. I noticed he would dump some of the priming powder in the barrel first and he explained that it makes the ignition time a LOT FASTER.
My friend who is an avid flinter recommended 5 grains. I see you even suggest as much as 10-15 grains with the clean shot. Living in Wisconsin, where it gets real cold, were shooting Triple Se7en powder one afternoon him and I. I noticed he would dump some of the priming powder in the barrel first and he explained that it makes the ignition time a LOT FASTER.