bronko22000

I was reading TN LoneWolf's post about the 200 gr XPB bullet he recovered from his deer. Now my question: I was wondering if it was legal to buy an Encore 209x50 barrel and, because it is a black powder muzzleloader barrel, cut it down to pistol length and use it on my Encore receiver?
I'd cut it to about 15" or 16" and then recrown it.

sabotloader

I believe you will find you muzzleloader is not classified as rifle and is not subject to those rules. So yes you could modify the ML as you like also long as your modification doesn't require an FFL.

bronko22000

Thanks sabot. That's what I thought too.
My last effort at gunsmithing, putting a dovetail in a barrel, worked out pretty well. Now I have to try my hand at lopping and crowning a barrel!

TN Lone Wolf

You're right, but for the wrong reasons. I'll explain:

Short answer: Yes, as long as you have a pistol grip on the frame.

Long answer: The Encore/Pro Hunter is classified as a firearm, not a muzzleloader. However, they're all generally considered "handgun" frames for the purposes of legality, since their whole basis is being able to swap barrels from muzzleloader, to rifle, to shotgun, and to handgun, which is why you have to go through a background check when buying one even in a muzzleloader configuration. It might be prudent to email Thompson Center and check the serial number of your frame, just to be sure, but even if yours originally shipped in some other configuration, I don't believe anyone's ever had a legal issue with it. Additionally, as it is still legally considered a firearm, absolutely do not have a shorter than 16" barrel on a frame with a rifle stock, even if it's a muzzleloader barrel!

mrbb

funny I replied here last night and post is gone?

any how, yes, a encore is a registered receiver, so as such, it cannot have a shorter barrel on it under 16 inches when there is a rifle stock on it

as it is considered a short barrel rifle at that point and that requires special paperwork to own/possess!
and the larger issue at times comes down to WHO see its and what THEY think is wrong or right!

bronko22000

Not a problem as I have a piatol grip and a .243 Win barrel that the frame came with. I also have a rifle butt stock and a ,45 an ,50 cal barrels and a 7-08 rifle barrel on the way
Can you put on 18" barrel on a pistol frame? If so it wouldn't matter if it was rifle or pistol configuration.

TN Lone Wolf

Yes, a pistol frame can have any length barrel attached when in a pistol configuration.

RedneckGeek1

Didn't T/C offer a pistol barrel in the 209x50 for the Encore at one time? Or am I thinking of a custom maker like MGM or Bulberry?

TN Lone Wolf

They did. If you want one nowadays, the pistol barrels still pop up on Ebay and Gunbroker occasionally. Bullberry and MGM both produce custom muzzleloader barrels in pistol lengths if you want a new one. I've got an MGM 209x45, but if you want a 209x50 you'll have to go through Bullberry.

RedneckGeek1

Thanks, just wanted to make sure.