Lehigh Defense is playing around with a Quiet shooting sabotless ML. The prototypes will have a can on the end and 44 caliber. The ML will also use pistol powders as well. It will also use a pistol primer and case for ignition. It will be a fast twist and be able to shoot very heavy long lead bullets. Or people like me will size down regular bullets to fit. Im pretty sure Lehigh already has some bullets that can be used in it as well. Im pretty sure if the guns are ever sold they will be 45cal not 44cal. But a lot of testing needs done after the prototypes are built. Powder/pressure/loads to name a few.

For several months now we have been testing tipped bullets. I call them the little pricks. Its really nice shooting a tipped bullet getting hollow point performance. Ive shot several Deer with them already. The tipped bullets mimic the hollow point performance in the Lehigh and Bloodline bullets. And the BC'S are quite a bit better then you would think with part of the hollow point showing. I have a few photos of the tipped bullets ill share. I dont have a photo of the newest version but these prototypes are close. I do know the newest version is headed to Africa on a big game hunt in the near future. They were given out at the shot show.

What are those funky looking tips suppose to do?

Just improve BC, that’s it.

I'm not sure about those tips. Even being slightly off center or canted would really effect accuracy. Also I think you'd have to be awfully careful loading them so you didn't move it. It would likely need a special bullet seater

Don't no what to think about them it looks like if the tip is not square in the bullet it will not fly wright but I my be wrong. love to see the report when done. Bronko just bit me to it. good mines think the same

I think your points are good. I have not noticed any problems at all yet. Back when we were testing the push in tips i purposely put some in crooked and saw no accuracy issues at all at 100yards.

Im not using a special jag at all with these bullets. I think anyone using any tipped bullet now the same jag would work.

So you are saying this is going to be a smokeless muzzleloader correct ?

Yes it will be pistol powders