Originally Posted by 1874sharpsshooter (Post 4325155)

More nonsense : but you keep telling yourself that . You sound like a poster child for marketing brain washing
Tell a lie loud enough and long enough and people will believe it
Worked for Hitler , works for CVA

Originally Posted by d.winsor (Post 4325156)

I don’t think I am reading this wrong, there are still people bashing CVA, in a thread called “What is Brand Bashing”.
One thing I have not heard of is where all this hate comes from. It does not seem normal. The biggest thing I have heard is “it is a proven fact!” when nothing has been proven at all, just general statements. Whenever it comes to discussing some point of why CVA is better or not, there is always a change of the subject being discussed at the time.
So, I would really like to hear from you CVA haters, “What is your personal experience for hating CVA”. Was it a purchase that went wrong? Maybe a model of gun you felt cheated with. Or a Warranty that was not honored or Bad service!
Waiting paitiently.

Originally Posted by IAhuntr (Post 4325150)

Yeah, that's why CVA is the market leader, because they're crappy.:rolleye0011:

Yes, I will keep plugging my crappy CVA,...with bullets. And I'll be enjoying it as it keeps punching the x-ring at 100 yards. Crappy good times.

You might not have noticed but CVA has gotten much better while other brands have fallen off in recent years.
Any idea why the easiest way to get a TC to shoot better is to throw a Begara barrel on it?

Originally Posted by IAhuntr (Post 4325158)

Uh,oh. Looks like you need to work on your game:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

If you don't care for CVA's that's cool, but you shouldn't let a simple internet discussion turn you in to that guy. ;)

Originally Posted by d.winsor (Post 4325156)

I don’t think I am reading this wrong, there are still people bashing CVA, in a thread called “What is Brand Bashing”.
One thing I have not heard of is where all this hate comes from. It does not seem normal. The biggest thing I have heard is “it is a proven fact!” when nothing has been proven at all, just general statements. Whenever it comes to discussing some point of why CVA is better or not, there is always a change of the subject being discussed at the time.
So, I would really like to hear from you CVA haters, “What is your personal experience for hating CVA”. Was it a purchase that went wrong? Maybe a model of gun you felt cheated with. Or a Warranty that was not honored or Bad service!
Waiting paitiently.

Originally Posted by 1874sharpsshooter (Post 4325159)

It was a gun that was bad and when I contacted CVA they treated my badly , wouldn’t do anything . I got rid of all CVAs and haven’t liked them every since
If they had done something maybe my attitude would be different . I been shooting muzzleloaders for 45 years and don’t like it when some one who answers a phone for customer service treats me like I am just ignorant and I ended up stuck with a bad gun. So that’s why . For a few years I often thought that if they apologized and replaced the gun then I wouldn’t say anything bad but that obviously didn’t happen so I will take every opportunity to share how I feel about CVA
The gun was a 45 cal Kodiak. ( omega copycat)

Originally Posted by BarnesAddict (Post 4325160)

LOL......... something to do I guess.....

CVA is the market leader because they've flooded the market with cheaply priced and lower quality muzzleloaders. Not saying that they won't shoot, because they will, to a point. It doesn't even take common sense to know, low priced items will never have the highest quality parts.
However, punching the x-ring at 100yds is a chip shot, easily completed by just about any modern inline made today, with the right shooter on the trigger.
The last TC and all previous Encore platform rifles I owned, which were many, ALL shot less than moa with the factory barrel at 200yds.

Originally Posted by d.winsor (Post 4325164)

Was that the old CVA or the New CVA Manufacturer?

Originally Posted by BarnesAddict (Post 4325160)

LOL......... something to do I guess.....

CVA is the market leader because they've flooded the market with cheaply priced and lower quality muzzleloaders. Not saying that they won't shoot, because they will, to a point. It doesn't even take common sense to know, low priced items will never have the highest quality parts.
However, punching the x-ring at 100yds is a chip shot, easily completed by just about any modern inline made today, with the right shooter on the trigger.
The last TC and all previous Encore platform rifles I owned, which were many, ALL shot less than moa with the factory barrel at 200yds.

Originally Posted by 1874sharpsshooter (Post 4325168)

New. ...........