Good grief man, get over yourself!

Truth is not bashing. It's a very well known fact that CVA uses inferior steels and they are not inspected like all barrels produced here in the US. It's pretty simple. You just seem to have a hard time grasping it or you are trying to start a little bashing war. I personally have been into muzzleloading rifles for over 40 years. My old man was an individual that several firearm manufacturers would consult and send rifles and cartridges to for testing. There are several on this forum that come from the same type of background as I and we all have a strong tendency to state our findings so that newcomers to our sport of choice don't make mistakes through lack of knowledge. I do believe that is the intention of this forum. I personally don't own a Knight nor would I consider one except for maybe a Knight Vision because I don't like bolt action type inlines due to very large fingers. Makes handling a primer a pain in the butt. Break open or drop block actions suit be much better for access. But I do know quite a few folks that do own them and they are excellent shooting rifles and quality built. The old man had a saying about CVA and their customer service, "the reason they have such good customer service is because they are so well practiced with people having to call about crappy products". Now I did hear that Knight went though some problems with CS soon after they were bought out but that supposedly has been cured. I'm under the impression they don't get a whole lot of practice if you get my drift.

Somebody describe to me what an agitator is and if it is against the rules here.

Evidently YOU are not getting the answers YOU want. Therein lies the problem.

Fact: CVA rifles are in every sporting goods store, chain stores, yard sales and almost every place they sell firearms. In many stores, its the only muzzleloader they sell. They're all over the place. Racks are full of them. I'd say they've flooded the market. If that's bashing to YOU, you'll just have to live with the facts as they are.

Fact: Compare the price of the CVA model muzzleloaders to any of the other manufacturer's muzzleloaders. They are one of the most inexpensive muzzleloaders on the market. So the fact is, they are inexpensive.

Fact: The quality doesn't compare to many of the other muzzleloaders on the market, short of maybe one. You CAN NOT build a high quality firearm, sell it as one of the most inexpensive available, and build it with high quality components. Short of importing, which means its made someplace other than the United States.

As I've stated, I don't care for CVA rifles, but have helped to setup the Accura V2 models and they shot very well.

So I have been into muzzleloading since 1984, If I get Counseled for brand bashing so should you and your friends if they do it. That's all I am going to say. I have a CVA that held up to a double charge of BH-209. How is that for proofing a barrel. All I ever told was the truth, when some people post to my information about knight, they read the truth, then make up things to the benefit of their reply. I should have just not tried to clarify as they knew exactly what they were doing. Bashing another member.

Great, good information to hear, but that was not what your first post said, you are dancing around the subject

Are the Traditions Nitrided barrels not SS?

Good grief, could you be less melodramatic.

Here is the exact quote from a recent post of mine on another board. Im not allowed to post links to competing forums here sooo.

by GM54-120 » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:11 pm Followed up by

by GM54-120 » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:21 pm The fact is it is CHEAP. Under $250 in SS/blac and under $350 in Nitride/camo. Pretty obvious how my use of the word was intended. Now you are grabbing at straws and pulling out tooth picks

Based on your background in metallurgical engineering, tell us exactly what steels CVA should be using and what steels CVA is currently using.