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BarnesAddict 05-07-2017 03:36 AM

Knight rifles
 
Looks like the Knight 500 won both matches in the Masters Classes, the M5 and Inline Modified shoots. The scoring was tight!
Congrats to Doug S., who won both matches.

Gm54-120 05-07-2017 06:02 AM

Doug has been tearing them up.

Gm54-120 05-07-2017 06:17 AM

Copied from Bestill's post on another forum.

Day two nmlra competition



Inline modified match in master class. This match scores 5 shots at 50,100,200 yds and 5 chickens at 200m and 5 pigs at 300m each distance 30 minute relay.

Perfect score is 170 and 15x

Doug Schwartz 1st 168 and 8x
Jeff Fisk 2nd 168 and and 7x
Jason Day 3rd. 166 and 3x

1st place was a knight custom 500 45cal 1-18 twist federal 209A with sightron s3 scope. 120 gr vol. Blackhorn and knurled parker 270 emax.

2nd place Bestill Creations Remington 700ml with asg 209A primer .443/.451. 1-16 twist bull barrel jewell trigger bell trigger shoe boyd provarmit vortex hst 6-24 x50 moa. 120 gr vol parker 270 emax

3rd place knight custom shooting swiss blackpowder and 530 gr paper patch lead.





bronko22000 05-07-2017 05:33 PM

Don't know much about this competition. Is this an offhand shoot or off a bench?

MountainDevil54 05-07-2017 05:42 PM

sissy shooting :D benches, high power scopes, custom barrels, etc.

BarnesAddict 05-07-2017 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by bronko22000 (Post 4303598)
Don't know much about this competition. Is this an offhand shoot or off a bench?

You can shoot from any position, although the two most common are bench and some shoot prone. A front rest can be used, with no more than a single contact of no more than 4". No rear rest and the butt of the rifle can't touch the bench, it must be shot from the shoulder.

Here's the first flyer. It is INCORRECT, in that there were 5 shots at each target/range....... Not 10.



Here are the final posted results:


BarnesAddict 05-07-2017 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 4303599)
sissy shooting :D benches, high power scopes, custom barrels, etc.

You're always WELCOME to bring the rifle of your choice and shoot from any position you'd like, with or without a scope and barrel of your choice.

I seen a target where a young lady put 5 rounds in the "X", shooting a percussion rifle off hand at 50yds. That "X" is about the size of a nickel by the way. She'll shoot with ya I bet :D
Shooting 300 - 400 & 500yds, well, you're probably on your own.

If you like or love muzzleloading, make the trip just once. The Nationals will be in June, you should plan a trip. Its easy to talk muzzleloaders, but attending just a single time, will open up a whole new world to you. Its a very easy place to be humbled....

http://www.nmlra.org/

Gm54-120 05-07-2017 07:54 PM

Wow, no..."its just a better gun" in there anywhere. That "old tech" Knight DE 50cal held its own pretty well too.

Grouse45 05-08-2017 06:40 AM

Nice to see most people are dumping sabots. You just cant compete using them. I guess everyone learns sooner or later.

Muley Hunter 05-08-2017 09:24 AM

I suppose this is interesting to some guys and gals. However, this is the description of this forum.


Black Powder
Ask opinions of other hunters on new technology, gear, and the methods of blackpowder hunting.

MountainDevil54 05-08-2017 10:02 AM

Im sure its a load of fun. I just like Rendezvous best. A lot more activity, along with the crafts of the trade. Im not really into bp cartridge either, but that's one still holds more interest over inline shooting. I have a harder time finding accurate reloads for my 7.62x54 than I do an inline lol.

BarnesAddict 05-08-2017 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Grouse45 (Post 4303668)
Nice to see most people are dumping sabots. You just cant compete using them. I guess everyone learns sooner or later.

Take note that all those rifles are considered "custom" and all but one is a .45cal. These are the "hot rod" shooters and classified as Master.
The IH results hadn't been posted yet this morning, where those who maybe using sabots will be shooting.

I wasn't there for medical reasons, but I'm hearing there's many new rules associated with inline shooting coming.

To Muley.......... Maybe the forum you like is listed at the top of the page, called Traditional?

Muley Hunter 05-08-2017 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by BarnesAddict (Post 4303700)
Take note that all those rifles are considered "custom" and all but one is a .45cal. These are the "hot rod" shooters and classified as Master.
The IH results hadn't been posted yet this morning, where those who maybe using sabots will be shooting.

I wasn't there for medical reasons, but I'm hearing there's many new rules associated with inline shooting coming.

To Muley.......... Maybe the forum you like is listed at the top of the page, called Traditional?

What I copied was there long before the Traditional forum was started.

I have no problem with the competition shooting. Don't they have a forum for that? Like you said those guns are all custom and not something a hunter can use.

This is Huntingnet. ;)

Muley Hunter 05-08-2017 11:31 AM

It took 30 seconds to find this.

http://targetx.boardhost.com/index.php

Gm54-120 05-08-2017 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 4303686)
I suppose this is interesting to some guys and gals. However, this is the description of this forum.


Black Powder
Ask opinions of other hunters on new technology, gear, and the methods of blackpowder hunting.

Well golly gee gosh Sgt Carter look who has returned.

MountainDevil54 05-08-2017 11:34 AM

Three things you must remember while target shooting. (1) Align the sights carefully. (2) Squeeze the trigger. (3) Say how did it get over there.

:s2::s2::s2: that made me laugh so hard! I have days like that.

Gm54-120 05-08-2017 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 4303703)
What I copied was there long before the Traditional forum was started.

I have no problem with the competition shooting. Don't they have a forum for that? Like you said those guns are all custom and not something a hunter can use.

This is Huntingnet. ;)

Oddly you are wrong. Bestill took a deer with one of his customs not long ago. I cant imagine why the Knight 500 wouldn't do just fine if you don't mind a 10lb rifle. The load they used even with a conical would easily take down pretty much anything with hooves.

BarnesAddict 05-08-2017 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 4303703)
What I copied was there long before the Traditional forum was started.

I have no problem with the competition shooting. Don't they have a forum for that? Like you said those guns are all custom and not something a hunter can use.

This is Huntingnet. ;)

Of all those who have read or responded, it appears you're the only one offended by the post, on a forum you don't own. I'd bet others found it very interesting. You can refrain from reading these/this and allow those who are interested to read/learn.

Also as pointed out, the "something a hunter can use" results haven't came out yet.

For the record (or your amusement), those custom rifles shot in the indicated match...... ARE USED for hunting too.

MountainDevil54 05-08-2017 11:41 AM

When you replace a barrel with something custom, does the gun manf. still get credit for the win even though it wasn't 100% their product?

Muley Hunter 05-08-2017 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Gm54-120 (Post 4303708)
Oddly you are wrong. Bestill took a deer with one of his customs not long ago. I cant imagine why the Knight 500 wouldn't do just fine if you don't mind a 10lb rifle. The load they used even with a conical would easily take down pretty much anything with hooves.

That wasn't my point. The average hunter is not going to build a gun like that to hunt. Of, course it will work for hunting if you already have one. Most guns will.

Muley Hunter 05-08-2017 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by BarnesAddict (Post 4303709)
Of all those who have read or responded, it appears you're the only one offended by the post, on a forum you don't own. I'd bet others found it very interesting. You can refrain from reading these/this and allow those who are interested to read/learn.

Also as pointed out, the "something a hunter can use" results haven't came out yet.

For the record (or your amusement), those custom rifles shot in the indicated match...... ARE USED for hunting too.

That's because it doesn't bother me to point it out. I'm sure others feel the same way.

BarnesAddict 05-08-2017 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 4303710)
When you replace a barrel with something custom, does the gun manf. still get credit for the win even though it wasn't 100% their product?

Jon its not a manufacturers match. Has nothing to do with who or what manufacturer built the rifle. Now, will Knight take credit for its M500 winning both matches? Sure. It would work the same if a custom builder won, or someone with a White.
But the credit goes to the shooter, not the rifle or what barrel may be on the rifle.
Hope that helps....

BarnesAddict 05-08-2017 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 4303712)
That's because it doesn't bother me to point it out. I'm sure others feel the same way.

Your opinion can be respected, but you're still the only one it appears to "bother".
Its already been pointed out these same rifles are used for hunting, and not just by me. Let it go please and read another forum.

Muley Hunter 05-08-2017 11:51 AM

Is this your forum to tell me that?

You should read your own advice.

BarnesAddict 05-08-2017 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 4303717)
Is this your forum to tell me that?

You should read your own advice.

It is my post on this forum but, read it again. Its pretty easy to identify the word "PLEASE".
If this post bothers you so much, don't read it. Its that simple Muley. Don't turn an informational post into an argument, PLEASE.

Muley Hunter 05-08-2017 12:09 PM

I didn't. I made a post and you could have left it at that. I wouldn't have added another post. It takes two to argue.

My opinion is a hunting forum should be about hunting. As simple as that. You don't have to like my opinion, but it's my opinion none the less.

btw..Please leave is still telling someone to leave.

Gm54-120 05-08-2017 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 4303711)
That wasn't my point. The average hunter is not going to build a gun like that to hunt. Of, course it will work for hunting if you already have one. Most guns will.

I didn't realize only "average" was required for being relevant or "on topic" for muzzleloader hunting and rifles.

Does the same apply to crossbows?

You flat out said they cant be used then you backpedaled.


Like you said those guns are all custom and not something a hunter can use.
I see no mention of average hunter nor do i see any mention of it in the topic description.

I do however see a bunch of rifles on the list that could easily be used for hunting IF that was a requirement on the sub forum. I also see a bunch of bullets that ARE hunting bullets.

Just a FYI but this rifle is virtually the same as 3 of the rifles in that list and well under $1000. Even Carlos sold a few of them.

Muley Hunter 05-08-2017 12:42 PM

See, I went to another forum and you guys just keep going.

Hard to please, aren't you?


I'll keep it simple. What part of this thread is about hunting?

Gm54-120 05-08-2017 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 4303726)
See, I went to another forum and you guys just keep going.

Hard to please, aren't you?


I'll keep it simple. What part of this thread is about hunting?

Thats simple. This topic could be very useful to someone looking for a long range ML with a proven history of accuracy at longer ranges....Not just some slogan from the advertising department.

Maybe you could relay that same question on the numerous topics in the section which have NOTHING to do about a inline muzzleloader

I will be waiting to see you post in those topics too. Start with the one about the pitbull puppy. ;)

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/blac...-learning.html

BarnesAddict 05-08-2017 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 4303726)
See, I went to another forum and you guys just keep going.
Hard to please, aren't you?
I'll keep it simple. What part of this thread is about hunting?

The thing is, you keep coming back.

Check back through the last 6 pages of posts and count how many posts were strictly about hunting. This site would be completely DEAD if things other than hunting weren't discussed. Its been going on for years.

MountainDevil54 05-08-2017 01:47 PM

You leave my baby girl out of this.

Gm54-120 05-08-2017 02:01 PM

You need to have her in the same pic as an inline WHILE hunting for this section!!

Didn't you get the memo? :D

MountainDevil54 05-08-2017 02:06 PM

Shes being trained to eat people shooting inlines. We have no use for them kind :D :D

Muley Hunter 05-08-2017 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by BarnesAddict (Post 4303731)
The thing is, you keep coming back.

Check back through the last 6 pages of posts and count how many posts were strictly about hunting. This site would be completely DEAD if things other than hunting weren't discussed. Its been going on for years.

I didn't want to be rude and not respond to you guys. I also kept the thread bumped up. You're welcome. :p

So, did you miss me when I was gone. :D

bronko22000 05-08-2017 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 4303738)
I didn't want to be rude and not respond to you guys. I also kept the thread bumped up. You're welcome. :p

So, did you miss me when I was gone. :D

Well it WAS nice and peaceful!! :lolabove: :guiness:

Muley Hunter 05-08-2017 04:07 PM

Sounds boring. We can't have that.

Grouse45 05-08-2017 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by BarnesAddict (Post 4303700)
Take note that all those rifles are considered "custom" and all but one is a .45cal. These are the "hot rod" shooters and classified as Master.
The IH results hadn't been posted yet this morning, where those who maybe using sabots will be shooting.

I wasn't there for medical reasons, but I'm hearing there's many new rules associated with inline shooting coming.

To Muley.......... Maybe the forum you like is listed at the top of the page, called Traditional?

Hope your feeling better!!!

It's no secret any serious long range shooter would use a 45cal. That's just basic knowledge.

120grns of BH209 is far from hot rod.

As far as sabots, they should call that the hunter division in my opinion only.

BarnesAddict 05-08-2017 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by Grouse45 (Post 4303754)
Hope your feeling better!!!

It's no secret any serious long range shooter would use a 45cal. That's just basic knowledge.

120grns of BH209 is far from hot rod.

As far as sabots, they should call that the hunter division in my opinion only.

Hot rod rifles, not hot rod BH209. Now we both know the difference between the rifles. Notice how close just 80grs of BP showed up?

YOU ARE RIGHT..... those shooters (at least the majority) are shooting in the hunter division. Its called: Inline Hunter (IH)

Again... those results are slow coming.

MountainDevil54 05-08-2017 05:44 PM



Warm your hearts up boys. Build a fun kit gun or custom, dress up and relive the old times. You don't want to be known as the lazy "old" generation that shot cheater guns do ya?

hunters_life 05-08-2017 06:29 PM

Unless you are out there with your teeth and fingernails hunting deer, you are cheating. When the deer start shooting back, you won't be cheating. Until that time comes, I will shoot whatever I can shoot the best to bring home some meat.


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