Yeah it can Pete. If it's really bad out of alignment it will cause serious gas deflection which can "tilt" the bullet/sabot. Plus, if it's out of wack, the whole purpose of the QLA (easier loading bullet/sabot straight) is thrown out the window. Sabot gets loaded at an angle, even a slight one, will throw accuracy to the dogs.

Never heard of one that far off. Just how bad is TC at making barrels?

I'd go with the Accura V2, blackhorn209 breech plug and then its all easy rolling from there.

What state are you hunting?

Before S&W took them over they had some of the best barrels made. Then after the takeover they were like Marlin during the "Remlin" period for about 5 years. You had around a 60% chance of a good barrel. I think they are coming out of that but that QLA is just an unnecessary gimmic in my opinion. I miced her Impact barrel and the recess SEEMS to be on center. I may throw some connies down range to see if it will shoot them. If not then I may cut that QLA crap off and put a 11* crown on it.

well I will add this, my TC encore shot like crap, tried so many combo's of bullets and powders it was insane, sent it back to TC> they too said BAD barrel, and gave me a new one, sent it back to me with a 2 inch group at 50 yards and said this is way better!
I ended up at a show and ran into Greg Ritz, and told him about my gun, he had me send it back again, and got it back with another 2 inch group test target??
which IMO SUCKS
I had 5 different scopes on this gun, a ray of mounts and bases by the end I had 5 different factory barrels on it, gun was shot by me and many other PRO class shooter( a few that build custom rifles for a living)
I without lying had about a 800+ rounds thru the above and could never get gun to shoot well consistently, was like a ?? , no one could figure out
TC eventually GAVE me a new gun
and that one shot SO so, in my opinion, and I ended up selling the gun to someone that wanted the receiver !!
I;m NOT saying this is the norm for TC guns,as I have seen many shot awesome

but MY experience with mine and the help I got from TC< was far from good.

the above took about 3 yrs in all before they replaced it with a different gun, and I spend hundreds of $$$ out of my pocket TRYING to get it to perform as it should have!

so, my vote wouldn't be for a TC gun here LOL

and again I am NOT bashing them, I am just saying what issue's I had, and seen many other brands shoot as well or better for less $$$

They should guarantee 1 & 1/2" groups at 100 yards with sabots. Or at least they used to. If it really is that bad, send it back to the factory and if it is off, they should replace the barrel.

TC was having quality control problems with the Encore long before they were acquired by Smith and Wesson. i lucked out with the muzzleloder barrel but i've seen several bad ones. Bellms specializes in fixing Encores.

Of the five centerfire barrels i bought, three were trash.

The hammer spring was too weak. The ramrod thimbles were loose because the screws were bottomed out. There was side play in the barrel and action. That was fixed when a machinist in the shop my son supervised welded up the action and machined it to fit the barrels.

http://bellmtcs.com/store/

Yeah I guess you're right Falcon, after the fire they had some quality control issues. And the hammer springs for every TC I have owned has always been on the weak side. But I never had a single problem with ANY of my barrels from them. I currently have 6 barrels for my PH frame and a Hawken. Every one of them, including the .50cal barrel for the PH and the Hawken barrel, are tack drivers. But I did use Mike's accuracy system but that's the nature of the beast when it comes to interchangeable cartridge platforms. It would be physically impossible to perfectly mate every single barrel to every single frame without some wiggle room. They were all "accurate enough" before I did the mods but now all of them will group well within an inch at 100 yards.

While I appreciate the speculation and feedback on my Omega, I am less interested in continuing to try and diagnose the issue with it. I haven't yet decided if I will keep it and try to fix and have two or just get rid of it.

I'm from Utah and our regs are wide open now. It wouldn't be a bad thing to have a rifle I could use in Colorado if I chose to hunt there with my muzzleloader.

I apologize...I miss spoke here. I haven't been able to find a Knight with the bare primer ignition system in it and not sure how hard it would be to either convert the disc system over or find one already installed. I have also read regarding some the headspace issues and I'm really not looking for a project so much as something that shoots out of the box and meets my desire for BH209. I also wonder how difficult it is to get the primer on and off.

I have also read that the Pro Hunter can be a bear to clean with a scope on it as it makes it difficult to access the trigger area as the bp doesn't seal off blowback.

I know CVA has made improvements over the years, but I'll admit it is hard to get past some of their former issues and past quality concerns.

Again, if you have experience with these guns or even one I haven't listed. I am interested in hearing why. I am currently leaning more towards the Knight, but am not firm in that direction.

I've seen the disc extreme in a .52 as well and wonder if there would be any reason to go with it over a .50.

Modern CVA's have no problems. I've owned every model with no problems and were very accurate.

Good luck with Knights customer service.